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petegz28
05-19-2013, 12:21 PM
Pfeiffer defends handling of IRS scandal

White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer on Sunday defended the Obama administration's handling of the IRS scandal.

"What would be an actual real scandal in Washington would be if the president had been involved or had interfered in an IRS investigation," Pfeiffer said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

Pfeiffer said that the administration followed the "cardinal rule" of all White Houses.

"You do nothing to interfere with an independent investigation and you do nothing to offer the appearance of interfering with investigations," Pfeiffer said. Once informed, the White House officials responded after they had the facts, he said.

Obama has come under fire from Republicans and others for being slow to respond and for saying that he learned only recently of the investigation into IRS officials targeting tea party groups.

"What we waited for were the facts," Pfeiffer said. "It's important to get out there fast, but it's important to get out there right."

Pfeiffer said the White House is remaining focused and will not going to let Republicans "drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings and false allegations."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2013/05/pfeiffer-defends-handling-of-irs-scandal-164308.html

Then there is this...

Obama Aide: 'Irrelevant Fact' Where President Was During Benghazi Attacks

Obama aide Dan Pfeiffer said it's an "irrelevant fact" where the president physically was during the Benghazi terror attack on September 11, 2012:

Host Chris Wallace reminds Pfeiffer that Obama didn't really talk with Secretary Clinton, Secretary Panetta, or Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that night. "He was talking to his national security staff," Pfeiffer insists.

Asked about whether the president entered the Situation Room, Pfeiffer says, "I don't remember what room the president was in on that night, and that's a largely irrelevant fact."

Pfeiffer then argues that Wallace's questions about the president's handling of the Benghazi terror attack are "offensive."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-aide-irrelevant-fact-where-president-was-during-benghazi-attacks_724882.html

petegz28
05-19-2013, 12:22 PM
Obama has come under fire from Republicans and others for being slow to respond and for saying that he learned only recently of the investigation into IRS officials targeting tea party groups.

"What we waited for were the facts," Pfeiffer said. "It's important to get out there fast, but it's important to get out there right."


This is my favorite.....I mean, why did this not apply to Benghazi?


Basically Obama's Admin is going to downplay all of this and say he wasn't nor should have been involved for whatever reason.

The guy is a fucking joke of a President.

stonedstooge
05-19-2013, 12:25 PM
HE DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT ANYTHING UNTIL HE READ IT IN THE PAPER, JUST LIKE YOU AND ME. HE'S ONE OF US

petegz28
05-19-2013, 12:26 PM
WALLACE: let's turn to benghazi. he had a meeting with panetta in the afternoon, heard about this on an unrelated subject, wanted them to deploy forces as soon as possible. the next time he shows up, hillary clinton says she spoke to him at around 10:00 that night after the attack at the consulate, not the annex, but the attack at the consulate had ended. question, what did the president do the rest of that night to pursue benghazi?

PFEIFFER: the president was kept up to do throughout the entire night, from the moment it started till the end. this is a horrible tragedy, people that he sent abroad whose lives are in risk, people who work for him. i recognize that there's a series of conspiracy theories the republicans are spinning about this since the night it happened, but there's been an independent review of this, congress has held hearings, we provided 250,000 pages of -- 250,000 pages of documents up there. there's been 11 hearings, 20 staff briefings. everyone has found the same thing. this is a tragedy. the question is not what happened that night. the question is what are we going to do to move forward and ensure it doesn't happen again? congress should act on what the president called for earlier this week, to pass legislation to actually allow us to implement the recommendations of the accountability review board. when we send diplomats off into far-flung places, there's inherent risk. we need to mitigate that risk.

WALLACE: with all due respect, you didn't answer my question. what did the president do that night?

PFEIFFER: kept up to date with the events as they were happening.

WALLACE: he didn't talk to the secretary of state except for the one time when the first attack was over. he didn't talk to the secretary of defense, he didn't talk to chiefs. the chairman of the joint who was he talking to?

PFEIFFER: his national security staff, his national security council.

WALLACE: was he in the situation room?

PFEIFFER: he was kept up to date throughout the day.

WALLACE: do you know know whether he was in the situation room?

PFEIFFER: i don't know what room he was in that night. that's a largely irrelevant fact.

WALLACE: well --

PFEIFFER: the premise of your question, somehow there was something that could have been done differently, okay, that would have changed the outcome here. the accountability roof board has looked at this, people have looked at this. it's a horrible tragedy, and we have to make sure it doesn't happen again.

WALLCE: here's the point, though, the ambassador goes missing, the first ambassador in more than 30 years is killed. four americans, including the ambassador, are killed. dozens of americans are in jeopardy. the president at 4:00 in the afternoon says to the chairman of the joint chiefs to deploy forces. no forces are deployed. where is he while all this is going on?

PFEIFFER: this has been tested to by --

WALLACE: well, no. no one knows where he is, who was involved, the --

PFEIFFER: the suggestion of your question that somehow the president --

WALLACE: i just want to know the answer.

PFEIFFER: the assertions from republicans that the president didn't take action is offensive. there's no evidence to support it.

WALLACE: i'm simply asking a question. where was he? what did he do? how did he respond in who told him you can't deploy forces and what was his president?

PFEIFFER: the president was in the white house that day, kept up to date by his national security team, spoke to the joint chiefs of staff earlier, secretary of state, and as events unfolded he was kept up to date.


the answer to the question is he (Obama) was getting his shit together for his Vegas fundraiser he was to attend the following day. We all know this.

LiveSteam
05-19-2013, 12:27 PM
Not going away & not going to end well for thee King

FD
05-19-2013, 12:38 PM
This scandal is taking an unexpected turn into RoomGate. What room was the President in? When was he in it?

This right here could be the thing that finally brings Obama down.

petegz28
05-19-2013, 12:40 PM
This scandal is taking an unexpected turn into RoomGate. What room was the President in? When was he in it?

This right here could be the thing that finally brings Obama down.

Seems a lot of people made a lot of political hay over what G. W. Bush did for 7 minutes on 9/11

LiveSteam
05-19-2013, 12:59 PM
This scandal is taking an unexpected turn into RoomGate. What room was the President in? When was he in it?

This right here could be the thing that finally brings Obama down.

Obama was giving out blowjobs & no doubt that gives you a thrill up your leg

FD
05-19-2013, 01:43 PM
Seems a lot of people made a lot of political hay over what G. W. Bush did for 7 minutes on 9/11

Thats true, and there is a name for those people. Partisan idiots.

Fairplay
05-19-2013, 01:49 PM
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ThatRaceCardGuy
05-19-2013, 09:52 PM
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what a ****ing idiot. Comparing Hitler to Obama ? Hitler murdered millions of people. You ****ing republicans are beyond stupid..

Bump
05-19-2013, 10:12 PM
what a ****ing idiot. Comparing Hitler to Obama ? Hitler murdered millions of people. You ****ing republicans are beyond stupid..

Both Hitler and Obama's supporters followed them blindly, and without question

chiefzilla1501
05-20-2013, 01:09 AM
Saw him in a few shows

Made me want to puke. Embarrassing that this administration thought they could get away with turning this into a political issue. Every single response was about how the Republicans were trying to drum this up as a political issue. I actually feel a little bad for Pfeiffer. The administration clearly sent him out to be a messenger to be shot, and boy did everyone fight back. He got destroyed on every morning news show.

HonestChieffan
05-20-2013, 06:51 AM
Saw him in a few shows

Made me want to puke. Embarrassing that this administration thought they could get away with turning this into a political issue. Every single response was about how the Republicans were trying to drum this up as a political issue. I actually feel a little bad for Pfeiffer. The administration clearly sent him out to be a messenger to be shot, and boy did everyone fight back. He got destroyed on every morning news show.

No right vs wrong. Its all a matter of degree, shades of grey. With no moral compass, this is the result. Read the comments from those who continue to defend the administration. Pretty clear that unless Obama himself were caught eating the heart from a still warm corpse, they would not so much as object and defend Obama, they would not recognize what is wrong.

If you cannot recognize behavior that is unacceptable this is the end result.

Comrade Crapski
05-20-2013, 07:48 AM
Not going away & not going to end well for thee King

No doubt Hussein is the orchestrator of all of this and deserves to be tried for his crimes, but do you really think the Vichy Regime will keep the pedal to the metal?

I don't.

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 07:53 AM
No doubt Hussein is the orchestrator of all of this and deserves to be tried for his crimes, but do you really think the Vichy Regime will keep the pedal to the metal?

I don't.
I think it will hurt them in 2014
Then by the election of 2016/ Obama care will have been around long enough for everyone to feel the pain.

Comrade Crapski
05-20-2013, 07:57 AM
I think it will hurt them in 2014
Then by the election of 2016/ Obama care will have been around long enough for everyone to feel the pain.

Oh no doubt 2014 mid-term will be a bloodbath for the communists. But the Vichy Regime isn't concerned with justice for the American people.

Secession is the ONLY solution.

You'll all see.

stonedstooge
05-20-2013, 07:57 AM
Hey look. Cosmo's boss was on the tv yesterday

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 08:16 AM
Hey look. Cosmo's boss was on the tv yesterday

Was he posing with golf clubs ?

Comrade Crapski
05-20-2013, 08:23 AM
Was he posing with golf clubs ?

cosmo is barry boo's ball washer.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 09:26 AM
Both Hitler and Obama's supporters followed them blindly, and without question

You posting a comment like this shows that you are following the right-wing nuts blindly, and without question.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 09:42 AM
what a ****ing idiot. Comparing Hitler to Obama ? Hitler murdered millions of people. You ****ing republicans are beyond stupid..

Why is it when someone gets compared to Hitler it has to mean killing people—only. Hitler had a fascist economy...ya' know the type of system that shares 6 planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Marx. It's indirect socialism. What you progs don't get, is that what you recommend is the same economic system. Your ideas enable govt connected corporations to rule the roost.

DaveNull
05-20-2013, 09:44 AM
Maybe it's just me, but when some asshole photoshops hitler and Obama together I don't think they're trying to make a statement about comparative economics.

blaise
05-20-2013, 09:47 AM
I don't think Obama fans following Obama is like Nazis following Hitler. More like Justin Bieber fans following Bieber.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 09:52 AM
Obama is no Hitler. For example, Obama never served in the military. And he doesn't have a mustache.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 09:54 AM
Saw him in a few shows

Made me want to puke. Embarrassing that this administration thought they could get away with turning this into a political issue. Every single response was about how the Republicans were trying to drum this up as a political issue. I actually feel a little bad for Pfeiffer. The administration clearly sent him out to be a messenger to be shot, and boy did everyone fight back. He got destroyed on every morning news show.

Bob Schieffer asked a good question. Why does the administration send out people with little knowledge of these events like Susan Rice and Dan Pfeiffer to speak on it's behalf instead of sending someone like Hillary Clinton? Clearly it's not an effort to provide information.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 09:58 AM
Why is it when someone gets compared to Hitler it has to mean killing people—only. Hitler had a fascist economy...ya' know the type of system that shares 6 planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Marx. It's indirect socialism. What you progs don't get, is that what you recommend is the same economic system. Your ideas enable govt connected corporations to rule the roost.

For some, it's ignorance. All Hitler means to them is mass killings. For others, who might recognize the truth of what your saying but who don't mind an American version of big government/big corp cooperation, it's deflection.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 09:58 AM
Obama is no Hitler. For example, Obama never served in the military. And he doesn't have a mustache.

:doh!: Oh please, none of that matters. Not even race matters to qualify. If it does, then Obama Is the Neo-Fascist.

But methinks you're being TiC, right?

mikey23545
05-20-2013, 10:02 AM
what a ****ing idiot. Comparing Hitler to Obama ? Hitler murdered millions of people. You ****ing republicans are beyond stupid..


Hey, even Hitler wasn't able to kill a few million people in his first few years...

Give Hussein a little time!

patteeu
05-20-2013, 10:02 AM
:doh!: Oh please, none of that matters. Not even race matters to qualify. If it does, then Obama Is the Neo-Fascist.

But methinks you're being TiC, right?

Yes, very.

I was really alluding to the same thing you said a few posts ago. Sure there are differences between Obama and Hitler, like extermination of jews, service in the military, and facial hair, but just because there are differences doesn't mean there aren't important similarities too.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:12 AM
Ah, I see.

Then, after all implementing their corporatism, the Progs blame the corporations. LMAO

They're just like hamsters running on a spinning wheel getting nowhere.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:32 AM
He's a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobodyeveryb'dy.

Doesn'tHe has a point of view,
Knows not where it's going to,
Isn't he He's not like you and me, at all.

Nowhere Man please listen,
You don't know what you're missing,
Nowhere Man,the world's is not at your command!

(lead guitar)

He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?

Nowhere Man, don't worry,
Take your time, don't hurry,
Leave it all till somebody else
lends you a hand!

Doesn'tHe has a point of view,
Knows not where it's going to,
Isn't he He's not like you and me, at all.

Nowhere Man please listen,
you don't know what you're missing
Nowhere Man,the world's is not at your command!

He's a real Nowhere Man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobodyeveryb'dy.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobodyeveryb'dy.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobodyeveryb'dy.


<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TGGphnDMVDI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ThatRaceCardGuy
05-20-2013, 10:39 AM
Comparing Obama to Hilter. .you racist pieces of dc shit are ane embarrassment to Republicans. Your white pride is showng.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 10:41 AM
Comparing Obama to Hilter. .you racist pieces of dc shit are ane embarrassment to Republicans. Your white pride is showng.

How does comparing Obama to Hitler demonstrate white pride? Do you think it's intended to be a compliment to Obama?

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:46 AM
How does comparing Obama to Hitler demonstrate white pride? Do you think it's intended to be a compliment to Obama?

LMAO

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:46 AM
Comparing Obama to Hilter. .you racist pieces of dc shit are ane embarrassment to Republicans. Your white pride is showng.

That's racist!:doh!:

Donger
05-20-2013, 10:51 AM
Comparing Obama to Hilter. .you racist pieces of dc shit are ane embarrassment to Republicans. Your white pride is showng.

Hilter Skilter?

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:52 AM
Progs in action! LMAO This cracks me up!

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cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:21 PM
Why is it when someone gets compared to Hitler it has to mean killing people—only. Hitler had a fascist economy...ya' know the type of system that shares 6 planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Marx. It's indirect socialism. What you progs don't get, is that what you recommend is the same economic system. Your ideas enable govt connected corporations to rule the roost.

Yeah, Hitler has really gotten a bad reputation over that aspect. There's so much more to the man, but people always seem to focus on the genocide thing. :facepalm:

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:23 PM
Obama is no Hitler. For example, Obama never served in the military. And he doesn't have a mustache.

They are pretty similar. In addition to the concentration camps where they gassed millions of people, both became leaders of countries in which they were not born.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 12:25 PM
Yeah, Hitler has really gotten a bad reputation over that aspect. There's so much more to the man, but people always seem to focus on the genocide thing. :facepalm:

No, he got a deserved reputation over that genocide thing. But when a comparison is made that obviously has nothing to do with genocide, it's a clue that you should look at other aspects of the man to understand the point that someone is trying to make.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:35 PM
No, he got a deserved reputation over that genocide thing. But when a comparison is made that obviously has nothing to do with genocide, it's a clue that you should look at other aspects of the man to understand the point that someone is trying to make.

Maybe they should make the point with someone other than Hitler. Since first and foremost Hitler is known for the planned and systematic extermination of 6 million Jews, plus millions of others, perhaps it is a really ridiculous method to make a point. This is really stupid, pat.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 12:37 PM
Maybe they should make the point with someone other than Hitler. Since first and foremost Hitler is known for the planned and systematic extermination of 6 million Jews, plus millions of others, perhaps it is a really ridiculous method to make a point. This is really stupid, pat.

It's not as stupid as thinking that someone is suggesting that Obama is exterminating the Jews.

Do you find anything about Hitler beside his policy of genocide offensive or do you think he was otherwise a pretty swell guy?

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:42 PM
It's not as stupid as thinking that someone is suggesting that Obama is exterminating the Jews.

Do you find anything about Hitler beside his policy of genocide offensive or do you think he was otherwise a pretty swell guy?

This is too dumb to merit a response. pat, when your opinions start matching those of BEP and Comrade Dipshit, you may want to re-think things.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 12:46 PM
Maybe they should make the point with someone other than Hitler. Since first and foremost Hitler is known for the planned and systematic extermination of 6 million Jews, plus millions of others, perhaps it is a really ridiculous method to make a point. This is really stupid, pat.

Well then Obama would make Mussolini proud too.

BTW when we compare the economy under Stalin to some left wing politicians, does it mean there's gonna be a Ukrainian famine? We know there will be political prisonors ( see IRS scandal) and we know there will be mental health gulags for dissenters ( see Obama's EOs on guns regarding doctors). There just may not be a forced famine.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 12:50 PM
This is too dumb to merit a response. pat, when your opinions start matching those of BEP and Comrade Dipshit, you may want to re-think things.

It's not often that you find a person who will refuse to condemn Hitler. You're one of my first.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:55 PM
It's not often that you find a person who will refuse to condemn Hitler. You're one of my first.

I did. So much so that I find it ridiculous to make casual comparisons to him.

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 12:57 PM
I wouldn't call the comparison casual.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 01:13 PM
I wouldn't call the comparison casual.

Obama head on Hitler body. OK.

ThatRaceCardGuy
05-20-2013, 06:16 PM
Racist dc posters will be racist. Black president makes you fuckers go nuts.

RedNeckRaider
05-20-2013, 06:17 PM
Racist dc posters will be racist. Black president makes you ****ers go nuts.

All kidding aside you are one of the weakest trolls ever here~

GoChargers
05-20-2013, 06:37 PM
Both Hitler and Obama's supporters followed them blindly, and without question

Yet as poorly as Obama's presidency has gone, he does not deserve to be compared to fucking Hitler. Ridiculous.

patteeu
05-20-2013, 06:43 PM
Yet as poorly as Obama's presidency has gone, he does not deserve to be compared to ****ing Hitler. Ridiculous.

Out of curiousity, which totalitarian-minded, socialist despot would you choose as the best comparison?

listopencil
05-20-2013, 07:03 PM
Out of curiousity, which totalitarian-minded, socialist despot would you choose as the best comparison?

Pol Pot?

Rausch
05-20-2013, 07:07 PM
Yet as poorly as Obama's presidency has gone, he does not deserve to be compared to ****ing Hitler. Ridiculous.

That's true.

Hitler turned the economy around...

listopencil
05-20-2013, 07:10 PM
Nicolae Ceausescu?

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 07:38 PM
Out of curiousity, which totalitarian-minded, socialist despot would you choose as the best comparison?
Ho Chi Minh
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Ho_Chi_Minh_1946_and_signature.jpg

fan4ever
05-20-2013, 08:36 PM
All kidding aside you are one of the weakest trolls ever here~

Half the time I'm not sure if he's kidding.

Rausch
05-20-2013, 08:41 PM
Ho Chi Minh
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Ho_Chi_Minh_1946_and_signature.jpg

The ears are a match anyway...

fan4ever
05-20-2013, 08:47 PM
The ears are a match anyway...

It's racist to compare the ears of minorities.

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 09:30 PM
The top IRS lawyer just happens to be BFFs with Obama & Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright
Saved Obama & Wright from the IRS back in 2007 & was given this position as an act of gratitude.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 09:48 PM
The top IRS lawyer just happens to be BFFs with Obama & Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright
Saved Obama & Wright from the IRS back in 2007 & was given this position as an act of gratitude.

How did he save Obama from the IRS?

So was IRS the good guys in 2007 but now they are evil?

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 09:58 PM
How did he save Obama from the IRS?

So was IRS the good guys in 2007 but now they are evil?

No the IRS were the bad guys.

InChiefsHell
05-20-2013, 10:00 PM
Maybe they should make the point with someone other than Hitler. Since first and foremost Hitler is known for the planned and systematic extermination of 6 million Jews, plus millions of others, perhaps it is a really ridiculous method to make a point. This is really stupid, pat.

Indeed. Never been done before either...

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/ringobushitler17.jpg

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 10:52 PM
That's true.

Hitler turned the economy around...

Made the trains run on time too. Maybe, that's why the left wants that cross-country train so bad.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 11:46 PM
Indeed. Never been done before either...

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/ringobushitler17.jpg

What's the problem? That guy was surely only referring to specific economic policies, so it's a fair comparison.

/BEP and patteeu

Fairplay
05-21-2013, 12:23 AM
Racist dc posters will be racist. Black president makes you ****ers go nuts.



You always have the race card to throw out when backed in a corner good for you.

Rausch
05-21-2013, 06:58 AM
You always have the race card to throw out when backed in a corner good for you.

On teh interwebs everyone else is white...

patteeu
05-21-2013, 07:12 AM
What's the problem? That guy was surely only referring to specific economic policies, so it's a fair comparison.

/BEP and patteeu

Does the anti-Christ have economic policies?

Comrade Crapski
05-21-2013, 08:27 AM
what a ****ing idiot. Comparing Hitler to Obama ? Hitler murdered millions of people. You ****ing republicans are beyond stupid..

Actually if Hitler's political career ended in 1938, the similarities would be quite striking. Even more so if Obamugabe's political career is extended past 2016 vis a vis his own particular Reichstag fire...