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petegz28
05-19-2013, 09:20 PM
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mlyonsd
05-19-2013, 11:35 PM
Woodward and now Schieffer comparing it to Watergate.

They know.

go bowe
05-19-2013, 11:49 PM
they know what?

that government is often characterized by idiotic bureaucratic bungling and can present a confused message?

that politicians shade the truth to suit their agenda?

i mean seriously, what is the big deal supposed to be?

did obama personally order the execution of the ambassador?

wtf is he supposed to have done?

watergate was a cover-up of criminal activities...

what crimes has obama covered up?

i just don't see the comparison, seriously, i don't...

HonestChieffan
05-20-2013, 07:07 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h6dbdluWVaw/UZjMBlXC64I/AAAAAAACI1M/7E6fOoD7b-Q/s400/theo5.jpg

LOCOChief
05-20-2013, 07:11 AM
they know what?

that government is often characterized by idiotic bureaucratic bungling and can present a confused message?

that politicians shade the truth to suit their agenda?

i mean seriously, what is the big deal supposed to be?

did obama personally order the execution of the ambassador?

wtf is he supposed to have done?

watergate was a cover-up of criminal activities...

what crimes has obama covered up?

i just don't see the comparison, seriously, i don't...

He should have listened to the Ambassador prior to 9/11 and provided more security. Hell, other countries ambassey's closed during this period.

Then they shouldn't have lied to misslead the voters before the election.

How did he know we couldn't get help there in time? Did he know how long the attack would take?

I really don't understand why you and others don't ****ing get this.

HonestChieffan
05-20-2013, 07:15 AM
He should have listened to the Ambassador prior to 9/11 and provided more security. Hell, other countries ambassey's closed during this period.

Then they shouldn't have lied to misslead the voters before the election.

How did he know we couldn't get help there in time? Did he know how long the attack would take?

I really don't understand why you and others don't ****ing get this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q1IYRltbYDg/UZnUz6mVGNI/AAAAAAACYJw/hbRtNtxFmE8/s640/Call-to-Inaction.jpg

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 07:43 AM
How did he know we couldn't get help there in time? Did he know how long the attack would take?

.

This

Comrade Crapski
05-20-2013, 07:43 AM
they know what?

that government is often characterized by idiotic bureaucratic bungling and can present a confused message?

that politicians shade the truth to suit their agenda?

i mean seriously, what is the big deal supposed to be?

did obama personally order the execution of the ambassador?

wtf is he supposed to have done?

watergate was a cover-up of criminal activities...

what crimes has obama covered up?

i just don't see the comparison, seriously, i don't...

What a despicable person you are.

Dave Lane
05-20-2013, 08:02 AM
they know what?

that government is often characterized by idiotic bureaucratic bungling and can present a confused message?

that politicians shade the truth to suit their agenda?

i mean seriously, what is the big deal supposed to be?

did obama personally order the execution of the ambassador?

wtf is he supposed to have done?

watergate was a cover-up of criminal activities...

what crimes has obama covered up?

i just don't see the comparison, seriously, i don't...


If you display any more logic or stray from the DC party line (spelled a noose) you will be executed.

Comrade Crapski
05-20-2013, 08:22 AM
If you display any more logic or stray from the DC party line (spelled a noose) you will be executed.

You're a scumbag.

InChiefsHell
05-20-2013, 08:22 AM
He should have listened to the Ambassador prior to 9/11 and provided more security. Hell, other countries ambassey's closed during this period.

Then they shouldn't have lied to misslead the voters before the election.

How did he know we couldn't get help there in time? Did he know how long the attack would take?

I really don't understand why you and others don't ****ing get this.

I've given up trying to get them to think critically about this admin...

Xanathol
05-20-2013, 10:41 AM
I've given up trying to get them to think
FYP

Cave Johnson
05-20-2013, 11:22 AM
He should have listened to the Ambassador prior to 9/11 and provided more security. Hell, other countries ambassey's closed during this period.

Oh, for fuck's sake, this isn't remotely true.

The deteriorating security situation in Benghazi had been the subject of a meeting that embassy officials held Aug. 15, where they concluded they could not defend the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The next day, the embassy drafted a cable outlining the dire circumstances and saying it would spell out what it needed in a separate cable.

“In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.

Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. <b>Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.</b>

“He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html#.UZpMurWsiSo#storylink=cpy

BucEyedPea
05-20-2013, 11:25 AM
We shouldn't even have been in Libya. The ambassador was working with the same groups weeks earlier. The ones that killed him later. He had to think they were our new allies just as anyone higher up did. Big mistake. That's where the misjudgment exists. Once there, or at the first sign of a problem, support should have been available. But the real incorrect reasoning was earlier—going into Libya. And without the authorization of Congress, which is what would be the real impeachable offense.

mikey23545
05-20-2013, 11:35 AM
If Stevens turned down help before the attack it would have been under orders from Hillary and Hussein. There is no way they were going to let on during election year that even after Apology Gate and Operation Osama there were still fanatical Muslims wanting to kill Americans.

Then, on the night of the attack, Obama disappeared, clutching his Nobel Peace Prize to his bony little bosom.

jjjayb
05-20-2013, 11:37 AM
Oh, for ****'s sake, this isn't remotely true.



Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html#.UZpMurWsiSo#storylink=cpy

Stevens said they needed more security. His higher ups declined. Do you really think he was going to go around his bosses and say yes to the extra security when it got nixed from higher up?

Cave Johnson
05-20-2013, 11:40 AM
If Stevens turned down help before the attack it would have been under orders from Hillary and Hussein. There is no way they were going to let on during election year that even after Apology Gate and Operation Osama there were still fanatical Muslims wanting to kill Americans.

Then, on the night of the attack, Obama disappeared, clutching his Nobel Peace Prize to his bony little bosom.

So, you're going with wild speculation as to a dead Ambassador's motives? IRONCLAD PROOF!!

LiveSteam
05-20-2013, 11:43 AM
So, you're going with wild speculation as to a dead Ambassador's motives? IRONCLAD PROOF!!

So, you're going with wild speculation of a defense official who asked not to be identified

mikey23545
05-20-2013, 11:59 AM
So, you're going with wild speculation as to a dead Ambassador's motives? IRONCLAD PROOF!!

Dead ambassadors tell no tales...

LOCOChief
05-20-2013, 12:11 PM
Oh, for ****'s sake, this isn't remotely true.




So other countries close thier embassies because of the aniversary of 9/11 an attack on America. And our own embassy turns down an offer for additional security in a hot spot on that aniversary?.

No you're not a fucking idiot are you?

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:15 PM
So other countries close thier embassies because of the aniversary of 9/11 an attack on America. And our own embassy turns down an offer for additional security in a hot spot on that aniversary?.



Which countries and where?

Cave Johnson
05-20-2013, 12:19 PM
Dead ambassadors tell no tales...

He's this "scandal's" Vince Foster.

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 12:38 PM
He's this "scandal's" Vince Foster.

The ambassador had to be killed so that he couldn't spill the beans on what Obama did that got him killed.

/right wing thinker

Pawnmower
05-20-2013, 12:57 PM
they know what?

that government is often characterized by idiotic bureaucratic bungling and can present a confused message?

that politicians shade the truth to suit their agenda?

i mean seriously, what is the big deal supposed to be?

did obama personally order the execution of the ambassador?

wtf is he supposed to have done?

watergate was a cover-up of criminal activities...

what crimes has obama covered up?

i just don't see the comparison, seriously, i don't...


I don't understand how people give a free pass to their side but would make a federal case if the 'other side' does something similar.

The problem was not mainly the benghazi attack itself, but the horrible attempt to cover it up up RIGHT before the election. To me, that's more of a crime than getting a blow job and covering it up...which ended up with impeachment hearings.

I cannot stand Democrats who minimize these issues and act like 'so what?'

We need the truth, not some story concocted to do better in an election.

Maybe its not technically criminal, i'm not sure....but it is disgusting (when done by either party)

The_Grand_Illusion
05-20-2013, 12:59 PM
Which countries and where?

You are such a jerk and obfuscate on purpose or you are just so ill-informed. I understood what he meant.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57544719/benghazi-timeline-how-the-attack-unfolded/
(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57544719/benghazi-timeline-how-the-attack-unfolded/)


Security Incidents Prior to the Benghazi Attack

December 2011: Terror plot thwarted, but Benghazi emergency plan warns of many Islamic terrorists still operating in area.

March 2012: U.S. Embassy in Tripoli lead security officer, RSO Eric Nordstrom, requests additional security but later testified he received no response.

April 10, 2012: An explosive device is thrown at a convoy carrying U.N. envoy Ian Martin.

May 22, 2012: A rocket-propelled grenade hits the offices of the International Red Cross.

June 6, 2012: An IED explodes outside the Benghazi consulate compound.

June 11, 2012: An RPG hits a convoy carrying the British Ambassador. The U.K. closes its consulate. Col. Wood, military Site Security Team (SST) commander, is in Benghazi, and helps with emergency response.

July 2012: RSO Nordstrom again requests additional security (perhaps via cable signed by Amb. Stevens dated July 9, see below).

July 9, 2012: Amb. Stevens sends a cable requesting continued help from military SST and State Dept. MSD (Mobile Security Deployment team) through mid-Sept. 2012, saying that benchmarks for a drawdown have not been met. The teams are not extended.

Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape

Early August: State Dept. removes the last of three 6-man State Dept. security teams and a 16-man military SST team from Libya.

August 2, 2012: Ambassador Stevens sends a cable to D.C. requesting "protective detail bodyguard postions" -- saying the added guards "will fill the vaccum of security personnel currently at post... who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent."

August 8, 2012: A cable from Amb. Stevens to D.C. says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

Aug. 27, 2012: The State Department issues a travel warning for Libya citing the threat of assassination and car bombings in Benghazi/Tripoli.

go bowe
05-20-2013, 01:00 PM
What a despicable person you are.

well, thanks...

coming from you, that's quite the compliment... :p :p :p

stevieray
05-20-2013, 01:02 PM
well, thanks...

coming from you, that's quite the compliment... :p :p :p
john, you ever get over to your nephews for a peek?

Pawnmower
05-20-2013, 01:06 PM
If you display any more logic or stray from the DC party line (spelled a noose) you will be executed.

dave lane logic = free pass to moron bureaucrats because 'hey what else could they do'


its funny how retarded people always just accept bungling incompetence, as they wait for their welfare checks in the mail

go bowe
05-20-2013, 01:06 PM
john, you ever get over to your nephews for a peek?

yes, i did..,.

he and his wife are very proud of their new house, that's what she calls it what with the new paint job and all...

the leather look in the living room is awesome...

if you ever need a reference or testimonial i think they'd be happy to do it...

i'm glad it worked out for both of you... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Pawnmower
05-20-2013, 01:07 PM
the leather look in the living room is awesome...



hmmmmm.....

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 01:08 PM
You are such a jerk and obfuscate on purpose or you are just so ill-informed. I understood what he meant.



What did you understand he meant?

When he said that other countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11anniversary, I assumed he meant that some countries closed their embassies because of the of the 9/11 anniversary.

Do you really think me asking him which countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11 anniversary is an unreasonable question?

The_Grand_Illusion
05-20-2013, 01:21 PM
What did you understand he meant?

When he said that other countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11anniversary, I assumed he meant that some countries closed their embassies because of the of the 9/11 anniversary.

Do you really think me asking him which countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11 anniversary is an unreasonable question?

"What difference does it make?" why they closed it, lol

He was right, they did close it prior to the tragedy that happened in Benghazi so quit being a jerk about it, you lunatic, fanatical, libtard.

TGI

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 01:25 PM
"What difference does it make?" why they closed it, lol

He was right, they did close it prior to the tragedy that happened in Benghazi so quit being a jerk about it, you lunatic, fanatical, libtard.

TGI

I didn't ask why. He aleady stated the why. I asked who closed and where.

[country] closed its embassy in [country] .

Fill in the blanks. Not a complicated question.

Pawnmower
05-20-2013, 01:27 PM
:ROFL:

this is like watching retards play lawn darts

The_Grand_Illusion
05-20-2013, 01:29 PM
I didn't ask why. He aleady stated the why. I asked who closed and where.

[country] closed its embassy in [country] .

Fill in the blanks. Not a complicated question.

I was actually making fun of you but it went way over your head. LMAO

TGI

cosmo20002
05-20-2013, 01:35 PM
I was actually making fun of you but it went way over your head. LMAO

TGI

Hmm. OK. Good one. :shrug:

Anyway, I guess you can't answer the question. Well, thanks for joining in.

chiefzilla1501
05-20-2013, 09:44 PM
Schieffer's line about taking credit for Bin Laden, then blaming everyone but himself when things go wrong is spot on.

LOCOChief
05-21-2013, 09:36 PM
What did you understand he meant?

When he said that other countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11anniversary, I assumed he meant that some countries closed their embassies because of the of the 9/11 anniversary.

Do you really think me asking him which countries closed their embassies because of the 9/11 anniversary is an unreasonable question?

I was wrong, thinking that the U.K consulate closed prior to the 11th. and wrong in thinking it was precautionary. I have no problem admitting that.