****NFL Preseason Week 2 Thread****

[Setsuna]

Thursday August 15th
7:30 ET
Detroit @ Cleveland
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Baltimore

8:00 ET
San Diego @ Chicago

Friday August 16th
7:00 ET
Minnesota @ Buffalo

8:00 ET
San Francisco @ Kansas City
Tampa Bay @ New England
Oakland @ New Orleans

Saturday August 17th
4:30 ET
Dallas @ Arizona

7:00 ET
Tennessee @ Cincinnati

7:30 ET
Jacksonville @ New York Jets

8:00 ET
Green Bay @ St. Louis
Miami @ Houston

10:00 ET
Denver @ Seattle

Sunday August 18th
7:00 ET
Indianapolis @ New York Giants

Monday August 19th
8:00 ET
Pittsburgh @ Washington

[Setsuna]

Post in this thread! It's official! :cuss:

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Anything going on?

[Setsuna]

Foles looks good. Chip Kelly running a slew of college plays. They're working right now. Effective.

[Setsuna]

Stream: http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline=americanfootball

[Setsuna]

LMAO Foles just threw a RZ INT. Oops.

[SAUTO]

Shouldn't that be helmet to helmet on sue?
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[Mav]

Shouldn't that be helmet to helmet on sue?
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I dunno, he crushed Richardson.

[TribalElder]

Foles interception after the timeout

[Dylan]

Awesome. The Giants are playing the Colts on Friday.

It is so easy to like Andrew Luck.

[TribalElder]

I really enjoyed watching rivers fumble the game away with the fellow fans that one Monday night in Kansas city

[mesmith31]

Can't find the game on that site, any other decent streaming links?

[Setsuna]

http://firstrowus1.eu/sport/american-football.html


Weeden made a nice TD pass to Ertz I think. Dude is coming along.

[Setsuna]

Brandon Marshall needs to be the first receiver taken in a PPR league.

[mesmith31]

No link to Chiefs game there.... am I missing something?

[Dylan]

great run by Forte. Marshall with the TD


NASCAR commercial... My boy bowing with the black & white checker flag! He is such a winner! [cue in the haters!]
j/k

[Hammock Parties]

The Browns are KILLING Detroit.

Weeden is on fire.

[Mav]

http://firstrowus1.eu/sport/american-football.html


Weeden made a nice TD pass to Ertz I think. Dude is coming along.

Jordan Cameron. Just threw a second td to Cameron......

[Mav]

The Browns are KILLING Detroit.

Weeden is on fire.

:D

[mesmith31]

My bad, been so busy working thought the game was tonight.

[chiefs1111]

Riversception

[Dylan]

oh boy, Rivers INT

under review

[chiefs1111]

Looks like it will be overturned

[chiefs1111]

Wow they gave it to him

[Setsuna]

That was PI anyway you look at that. Rivers had a right to be mad.

[Dylan]

Cutler INT

Time to see what the Eagles are doing

[chiefs1111]

Cutler gives it right back

[Brock]

Die, berman.

[chiefs1111]

Die, berman.

Berman sucks but at least it isn't Mike Greenberg he is even worse

[Dylan]

Rivers turnover

I think Rivers had almost as many turnovers as Sanchez had last season

[Hammock Parties]

Rivers sack fumble LMAO

[In58men]

Rivers is taking a beating

[highBOLTage]

I'd assume that is the last snap for Max Starks in his competition to start at LT.

[Setsuna]

Chargers should have traded for Albert or that wasn't an option since rivals and all.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

In.

[Dylan]

Forte is in mid-season form

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We are going to destroy Phillis this year.

[Dylan]

vick on the run...he better be careful

on the next play, he is still running

jackson shaken up

Edit: McCoy TD

[GoChargers]

Chargers are gonna suck ass this year, but Clowney will make up for it.

[In58men]

Why did I become a Chief fan. All I get is Chargers, Raiders and 49ers. Bullshit

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chargers are gonna suck ass this year, but Clowney will make up for it.

Converting to Oakland?

[mlyonsd]

When did Romeo become SD's HC?

[Setsuna]

Chargers are gonna suck ass this year, but Clowney will make up for it.

Come on dude. At least you got Rivers.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Chargers are gonna suck ass this year, but Clowney will make up for it.

You'll be fighting the Raiders for him. A guy I work with (Raider fan) is leading the clown for Clowney parade.

[GoChargers]

Come on dude. At least you got Rivers.
His picks and sack-fumbles will deliver Clowney to us, tbh.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

His picks and sack-fumbles will deliver Clowney to us, tbh.

You're not getting him. Oakland will out-suck you and take that beast.

[Hammock Parties]

God damn SD's OL is shit.

[highBOLTage]

His picks and sack-fumbles will deliver Clowney to us, tbh.

No way they are competing for the first pick with a healthy Rivers. If they let Starks play anymore and Rivers goes down, they are a lock for it if they go with Whitehurst.

[Dylan]

Cam not having a good game...

Vick running the read-option in red zone- an injury waiting to happen.

Vick INT

[Setsuna]

Why is Teo not playing again?

[Setsuna]

Idk if Charger OC knows what he's doing. Gotta get other receivers involved.

[milkman]

Awesome. The Giants are playing the Colts on Friday.

It is so easy to like Andrew Luck.

Luck could do those caveman insurance commercials without need for any makeup.

I'll call him Captain Caveman.

[chiefs1111]

lol Chargers,wow

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Chargers are reaching the end of the road, once Manning is done, it'll be the same shit for Denver, and Oakland, well....yeah.

[Dylan]

Luck could do those caveman insurance commercials without need for any makeup.

I'll call him Captain Caveman.

...LMAO

[DJ's left nut]

The Chargers are reaching the end of the road, once Manning is done, it'll be the same shit for Denver, and Oakland, well....yeah.

This will drive you insane - but if we signed Smith to a 5 year deal, we'd have the best QB in the division for the final 3 years of that deal...

Just sayin'

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This will drive you insane - but if we signed Smith to a 5 year deal, we'd have the best QB in the division for the final 3 years of that deal...

Just sayin'

5 years? Please God no.

[Dylan]

OMG, Panthers defense cannot stop Kelly's offense. Panthers had a good defense last season, right?

Uh oh, Giants are in trouble... LOL

[Mav]

Why is Teo not playing again?

His girlfriend kicked him in his penis.

[Setsuna]

I gotta ask. Is Dylan prejudice or something?

[Dylan]

Setsuna...God's gift to comedians

concentrate on the football game, so you will have something meaningful to talk about, forcryin'outloud.

[chiefs1111]

Another Chargers turnover

[-King-]

LMAOO Fumble on the first snap for the 2nd team. Center's fault.

[GoChargers]

My God, this team is terrible. Even worse than the Faid.

[Hammock Parties]

The sad thing is I GUARANTEE you the Chargers take at least one game from KC, simply because Rivers > Smith.

[SAUTO]

This will drive you insane - but if we signed Smith to a 5 year deal, we'd have the best QB in the division for the final 3 years of that deal...

Just sayin' well at this point at least
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[jd1020]

ROFL

Hand the ball off and 4 bears already wrapping up the runner... Solid OL.

[Setsuna]

My God, this team is terrible. Even worse than the Faid.

You don't deserve Teo! :harumph:

[DJ's left nut]

The sad thing is I GUARANTEE you the Chargers take at least one game from KC, simply because Rivers > Smith.

He's not.

He's a better pure downfield passer than Smith, but that's it. He's incapable of dealing with a rush. He's immobile. He's not someone that is going to inspire his teammates.

If you give him a very good team and a very good line, I'd take him over Smith because at that point he doesn't need to worry about scrambling for his life and when things are going well, the leadership thing doesn't matter.

But if you give me the aggregate 'average' football team and ask me to pick a QB, I'd take Smith under center by a nose.

Rivers and Smith are essentially mirror images of each other, when you get right down to it. I don't think you can categorically state that Rivers is better than Smith because his flaws are so easily exposed and exacerbated.

[SAUTO]

And rivers acts like a bitch
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The sad thing is I GUARANTEE you the Chargers take at least one game from KC, simply because Rivers > Smith.

Phyllis won't be the factor.

[In58men]

Bostic had a major major hit just now for Chicago

[Setsuna]

Bostic had a major major hit just now for Chicago

Not surprised. Florida Gators are starting to make impacts in the NFL.

[Dylan]

Bostic and Brown both made some outstanding plays.

[O.city]

Surprise prediction, Browns win the north.


I think the bengals will but the browns have a chance to be really good

[-King-]

Surprise prediction, Browns win the north.


I think the bengals will but the browns have a chance to be really good

The Browns over the Bengals, Ravens, and Steelers? Seriously?

[Mav]

Surprise prediction, Browns win the north.


I think the bengals will but the browns have a chance to be really good

Shhhh, no no, the browns are in the bottom of that Division.....No chance to beat the Ravens, or steelers, or bengals. :rolleyes:

[chiefzilla1501]

Surprise prediction, Browns win the north.


I think the bengals will but the browns have a chance to be really good

Browns are a big time sleeper. Their defense was passable with Rob Ryan as coach. Ray Horton was an absolute steal and the difference in the defense is going to be night and day. Weeden is still a bit unpolished. But I think they'll have a terrific running game.

I don't think they win the division unless Horton completely surprises with that defense. But they're going to be a very tough out this year.

[Mav]

Browns are a big time sleeper. Their defense was passable with Rob Ryan as coach. Ray Horton was an absolute steal and the difference in the defense is going to be night and day. Weeden is still a bit unpolished. But I think they'll have a terrific running game.

I don't think they win the division unless Horton completely surprises with that defense. But they're going to be a very tough out this year.

Have you seen him this preseason?

[Dylan]

Get ready for 24/7 Manti Te'o news on ESPN.

How many times are they going to bring up his ghost tonight

[O.city]

The Browns over the Bengals, Ravens, and Steelers? Seriously?

If you believe coaching makes that much difference, yeah I think they can. Their defense is really young and really good and they have quietly built some weapons on offense. It's gonna come down to weeden

[MotherfuckerJones]

Why did I become a Chief fan. All I get is Chargers, Raiders and 49ers. Bullshit

Preaseaon Live is a great deal. Even though they black shit out still.

[-King-]

If you believe coaching makes that much difference, yeah I think they can. Their defense is really young and really good and they have quietly built some weapons on offense. It's gonna come down to weeden

They're less talented than every team in the division other than maybe the Steelers.

[MotherfuckerJones]

How did Catfish do?

[Mav]

They're less talented than every team in the division other than maybe the Steelers.

I think that is debatable.

Very Debatable.

I think the Ravens are far overrated as far as talent goes. Especially on the offensive side of the ball.

They have Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, and Torrey Smith. They have an average oline, and not much else.

[Mav]

How did Catfish do?

He didn't play.

[O.city]

They're less talented than every team in the division other than maybe the Steelers.

I'd say the have the best ol, potentially the best rb, in that division and a pair of wrs who are really good.


Their defense is going to be really good with Ray Horton too

[O.city]

I think the ravens defense will be better this year than last.

Ray ray and reed were highly overrated

[Mav]

I'd say the have the best ol, potentially the best rb, in that division and a pair of wrs who are really good.


Their defense is going to be really good with Ray Horton too

Their front 7 is about the deepest in football.

Their secondary is kind of a worry, cause outside of Ward, and Haden, its very young, and unknown. But if they can keep pressure on qbs, that's going to take care of itself.

[Mav]

I think the ravens defense will be better this year than last.

Ray ray and reed were highly overrated

I want to see it first. They are relying on Michael Huff, and a rookie in the secondary, they are relying on a rookie and a vet in the middle. They have a lot to prove.

[O.city]

I don't think their front 7 is better than the bengals, but it's solid

[O.city]

I want to see it first. They are relying on Michael Huff, and a rookie in the secondary, they are relying on a rookie and a vet in the middle. They have a lot to prove.

The pieces they replaced, were playing on name alone really and were replaced with better players. I don't think it's a stretch that they'll be better

[Mav]

I don't think their front 7 is better than the bengals, but it's solid

The browns? No, not better, but its deeper. There is so much depth on the dline, and olbs. They aren't even going to start Mingo, or Groves. To back up Sheard, and Kruger.....they are a legit 6 deep on the Oline with Billy Winn John Hughes, and Kitchens as back ups to Rubin, Bryant, and Taylor.

The bengals d line is beastly....

[Mav]

The pieces they replaced, were playing on name alone really and were replaced with better players. I don't think it's a stretch that they'll be better

To each their own. Huff to me has been overrated badly.....I agree that Elam, and Brown can be very very good....Just need to see it.

I just don't know who Flacco is going to throw to.

[chiefzilla1501]

Have you seen him this preseason?

I have. I have buddies who are Cleveland fans so I've seen more of Cleveland than I need to.

We all know it's preseason. He's miles better than last year and a better offensive scheme helps. But his mechanics on a simple screen pass are still terrible. You still have to put a lot of faith in the guy to execute when defenses start throwing some curve balls at you.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@ESPNNFL: BREAKING: Browns rookie Barkevious Mingo is in the hospital with a bruised lung (via @MaryKayCabot)

[Mav]

@ESPNNFL: BREAKING: Browns rookie Barkevious Mingo is in the hospital with a bruised lung (via @MaryKayCabot)

Bitch.....

FML

[O.city]

The Kruger signing was nt smart IMO but it looks better now

[Mav]

The Kruger signing was nt smart IMO but it looks better now

completely disagree. Completely. Homer isms aside, they didn't know how Sheard was going to do as a stand up lb, and Kruger graded out very VERY well last year. He graded out as the 6 best olb in the league last year. They hurt a division rival, and hes a vet that can teach Sheard, and Mingo how to play at a high level. I thought he was the best signing. yeah, of course they over paid for him. No one wants to play in Cleveland if they don't have to.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@PriscoCBS: Dion Lewis with a fractured leg is a hit for the Browns. He looked good

[O.city]

completely disagree. Completely. Homer isms aside, they didn't know how Sheard was going to do as a stand up lb, and Kruger graded out very VERY well last year. He graded out as the 6 best olb in the league last year. They hurt a division rival, and hes a vet that can teach Sheard, and Mingo how to play at a high level. I thought he was the best signing. yeah, of course they over paid for him. No one wants to play in Cleveland if they don't have to.

Sorry, but you can't bash clay for using ratings systems then turn around and say this.


He's a solid player but he was also a solid player for the best or one of the best franchises in sports. When they decide to let someone go, I'm always Leary of paying top dollar for them

[Mav]

@PriscoCBS: Dion Lewis with a fractured leg is a hit for the Browns. He looked good

Yeah, we got crushed with injuries.

Our starting Right guard, pinkston, our back up tight end barnridge, lewis, and Mingo. No good.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Yeah, we got crushed with injuries.

Our starting Right guard, pinkston, our back up tight end barnridge, lewis, and Mingo. No good.

It's the football gods just reminding you that they're still the Browns. Lol

Media controls everything though. You just know that if the Browns were playing one of the media darlings in the playoffs Goodell would fix that MFer up so much that it'd make fraud look like an idealest word. Might as well not show up. Unless you get a player that is amazing and the media loves like a Manning, etc, you're gonna be sucking for a long(er) time.

[Mav]

It's the football gods just reminding you that they're still the Browns. Lol

Media controls everything though. You just know that if the Browns were playing one of the media darlings in the playoffs Goodell would fix that MFer up so much that it'd make fraud look like an idealest word. Might as well not show up.

Oh, im aware lol....very aware...

[Mav]

Sorry, but you can't bash clay for using ratings systems then turn around and say this.


He's a solid player but he was also a solid player for the best or one of the best franchises in sports. When they decide to let someone go, I'm always Leary of paying top dollar for them

I don't bash Clay for using ratings. I bash Clay for using SUPPORTIVE ratings and leaving the entire picture out. That wasn't what I did. I have no delusions that Paul Kruger is a top 10 olb in the league. What I like most about him is his relentless effort. And he is smart.

[O.city]

I don't bash Clay for using ratings. I bash Clay for using SUPPORTIVE ratings and leaving the entire picture out. That wasn't what I did. I have no delusions that Paul Kruger is a top 10 olb in the league. What I like most about him is his relentless effort. And he is smart.

Then why say he's the 6th best ranked olb?

[Mav]

Then why say he's the 6th best ranked olb?

That's what he graded out as for last year. I think you can grade out as something, and not be that. See Alex Smith. He graded out as a top what 10 qb? We know he isn't that. Just like for instance Sean Smith, Clay loves to destroy him because of his rating. Hes not nearly that bad.

[-King-]

I'd say the have the best ol, potentially the best rb, in that division and a pair of wrs who are really good.


Their defense is going to be really good with Ray Horton too

So you'd take Richardson over Ray Rice?

You'd take Little and Gordon over Torrey Smith and Jacoby Jones?

Yes their line is good, but other than that, they're average at pretty much every position.

[O.city]

So you'd take Richardson over Ray Rice?

You'd take Little and Gordon over Torrey Smith and Jacoby Jones?

Yes their line is good, but other than that, they're average at pretty much every position.

I don't think the talent disparity between any of said players is that large.

Probably take rice but would take little and Gordon

[ThaVirus]

I was working so I missed the games tonight..

Saw that hit by Bostic on Sportscenter though. Ho-leeeeeee shit!

[AussieChiefsFan]

I was working so I missed the games tonight..

Saw that hit by Bostic on Sportscenter though. Ho-leeeeeee shit!Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

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[chiefzilla1501]

So you'd take Richardson over Ray Rice?

You'd take Little and Gordon over Torrey Smith and Jacoby Jones?

Yes their line is good, but other than that, they're average at pretty much every position.

Their offense will be solid. Keep in mind that they'll be running the Coryell offense, which I think is perfect for their personnel is the same offense that made average receivers in both San Diego and Kansas City an electric passing offense.

Cleveland is always going to be the underdog just because Flacco and Big Ben are in that division. But they could surprisingly give other teams in that division a run for their money if Weeden plays well.

[Hammock Parties]

Cassel Watch tonight!

[Setsuna]

Ponder looks average.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Cassel Watch tonight!

Who will have more yards AS or MC ?

[Setsuna]

Glennon with a laser down the middle of the field. LMAO

[AussieChiefsFan]

Tebow = QBOTF

[tk13]

Tebow finishes 1/7 for -1 yard passing, 1 INT.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Tebow finishes 1/7 for -1 yard passing, 1 INT.LMAO

[AussieChiefsFan]

And the Saints pick off the Raiders.

NOLA 28
OAK 20

Final

[AussieChiefsFan]

And the Pats beat the Bucs.

NE 25
TB 21

[the Talking Can]

Tebow finishes 1/7 for -1 yard passing, 1 INT.

the guy dumb enough to draft him in the first is 'smart' enough to be Brady's OC...



that's how good a QB Brady is....he makes retards look smart

[AussieChiefsFan]

Also, ROFL at Drew Brees having 3 hours in the backfield to pass.

[Setsuna]

6 games on today. Let's get er dun! PBJ

[Dylan]

Starters: Dallas @ Arizona

Nice to see Larry Fitzgerald have a QB throw him some balls.

Some confusion with Palmer and receivers - learning a new offense will do that.

I think Dez Bryant had one or two drops - other than that, he looked good. Typical preseason game. I think Dallas had three fumbles.

Romo was flinging the ball - He completed a lot of yards, no TDs.

Dallas' defense looks very good against the run. Okay against the pass. They look better in the 4-3 than the 3-4. They were all around the ball. They look good.

All in all, Cowboys having a nice game.

[Dylan]

CBS:

Jacksonville @ New York Jets

No Geno Smith tonight.

1st down for Sanchez. Hope he doesn't fumble or throw an INT - Met Life Stadium will explode.

Edit: TD Sanchez

[cyborgtable]

Its preseason. It is going to take a lot to make me trust Sanchez even a little

[Dylan]

Its preseason. It is going to take a lot to make me trust Sanchez even a little

Today's NY Post: Dead QB Starting.

I hope Geno Smith can handle the NY press. Not many athletes can... It might be his your biggest obstacle to personal growth and career development.

[Hammock Parties]

This is good for Geno long term. Spotlight is off him now.

[Dylan]

Agreed. The Jets should start Geno mid season.

[cyborgtable]

I think Geno takes over some time mid-season. Biggest fear is a competent OC makes Sanchez decent. I would rather him suck than mediocre.

[Dylan]

I think Geno takes over some time mid-season. Biggest fear is a competent OC makes Sanchez decent. I would rather him suck than mediocre.

I think the Jets will move on - J/M/O

Jets LBs look bad. I know the feeling...See Giants...

[cyborgtable]

They are so slow. Have upgraded the speed somewhat and the D-line should be better but still not as fast as I would like

[Dylan]

I wouldn't worry that much right now - It's a preseason game.

I don't know your players. Alot of new names. Rex playing mix and match on the defense?

Jags offense is on a roll

[cyborgtable]

Yeah, we are doing a lot of experimentation of D, the hurry up is a really bad matchup when doing that. I'm not worried about the D during the regular season at all

[Dylan]

Gabbert hung in there on the pass rush...big improvement for him

[Dylan]

Jags: Penalties add up to an undisciplined team. Preseason or not. That is on the coaches...J/M/O

OMG: Jags 8th penalty of the game. The game just started.

[cyborgtable]

Jags: Penalties add up to an undisciplined team. Preseason or not. That is on the coaches...J/M/O

I agree with you there. But also improvement from week to week is important, it happens early in preseason but if it gets better week to week you'll be ok

Lol at the back to back and this is pretty ridiculous

[Dylan]

Jags: Jason Babin in the game?

[cyborgtable]

OMG he threw the ball at the ground, holy crap that is improvement

edit. Redzone pick, his second favorite thing

[Dylan]

Oh boy, can't make it up. Sanchez INT in the end zone.

This is Geno's team.

[the Talking Can]

Bradford with a 50 yard pass in the air to givens

[jd1020]

Bradford with a 50 yard pass in the air to givens

That was nice.

Then he Cassels a throw on a wide open TD pass.

[Dylan]

Nice!

[jd1020]

And a fumbled snap for the Rams on a 4th and goal.

[Rasputin]

It's funny just when it looks like Mark Sanchez is running the offense with out much mistakes he throws an INT in the endzone. LMAO



Geno Smith doesn't even have to play and he will get his opportunity soon enough after Sanchez gets booed to his seat.

[the Talking Can]

That was nice.

Then he Cassels a throw on a wide open TD pass.

yup...and screwed my boy austin

got to make that pass

[Dylan]

ouch...

I forgot about the Packers / Rams game

I'll watch it online.

[ChiefGator]

The only game I have on is the Jags game?
Ugh.

[Mav]

ouch...

I forgot about the Packers / Rams game

I'll watch it online.

shit, so did I....crap.

[Mav]

aaron Rodgers is such a stud. Pocket collapses, Aaron hangs in there and finds the open guy.

[jd1020]

Eddie Lacy is pretty good.

[Dylan]

The only game I have on is the Jags game?
Ugh.

Here you go. Pick your football game:

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/

[Mav]

Eddie Lacy is pretty good.

yes yes he is. are you watching the packers game?

[cyborgtable]

Here you go. Pick your football game:

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/

Or you could get all the games at a really high quality
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275360

[Mav]

Robert Quinn is so fast. The packers need a left tackle.

[Setsuna]

Gabbert looked competent....for once in his career.

[jd1020]

Gabbert looked competent....for once in his career.

Sounds like you changed teams at the wrong time.

[Dylan]

Or you could get all the games at a really high quality
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275360

Once the season starts, I subscribe. But to answer your question, some links are very clear. I get live streaming links from Formula 1 fans who reside overseas - However, you have to play around and look for the best stream.

[Dylan]

Gabbert looked competent....for once in his career.

I noticed Gabbert is playing a lot out of the shotgun -

[cyborgtable]

I noticed Gabbert is playing a lot out of the shotgun -

I really think the shotgun and the pistol will be seen a lot more this and upcoming years

[Dylan]

looks like sanchez took too long before taking off for the end zone

[cyborgtable]

Had a wide open Gates and then has a bad pass.

[Dylan]

I really think the shotgun and the pistol will be seen a lot more this and upcoming years

Kelly's system looked good on Thurs. Vick was on fire. Hard to put your prized qb in those type of situations, though.

Good QBs are hard to find - you want them around for the next 10-15 years... LOL

[cyborgtable]

I completely agree about putting the QB in danger but the shotgun doesn't put your qb in any extra danger. The pistol is just a formation which offers much of the advantages of the shotgun and i-form style sets.

One can run a pretty standard offense out of the pistol without really adding danger to the QB, I think that it is just a more formidable formation

[Rasputin]

Did anyone see that play when Drew Breez and his mole had 10 seconds in the pocket and then threw a touchdown against the Raiders? He had 10 seconds! Hell he could of held onto it 13 seconds they weren't getting close to him.

[In58men]

Keller just carted off holding his knee. ACL probably

[Setsuna]

Sounds like you changed teams at the wrong time.

No the Jets D sucks balls. He still sucks.

[Dylan]

I completely agree about putting the QB in danger but the shotgun doesn't put your qb in any extra danger. The pistol is just a formation which offers much of the advantages of the shotgun and i-form style sets.

One can run a pretty standard offense out of the pistol without really adding danger to the QB, I think that it is just a more formidable formation

Running quarterbacks do not last long.

cyborgtable, When you have time, watch this video. It is a compilation of all RGIII running plays.

However, I am not sure who is more reckless, Shanahan or RGIII.

RGIII will not last much longer if he keeps getting hit on read-option and pitch plays.

This video will blow your mind:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2UcgGAZNeo

Please let me know your thoughts.

[Dylan]

Did anyone see that play when Drew Breez and his mole had 10 seconds in the pocket and then threw a touchdown against the Raiders? He had 10 seconds! Hell he could of held onto it 13 seconds they weren't getting close to him.

LMAO

[cyborgtable]

Running quarterbacks do not last long.

cyborgtable, When you have time, watch this video. It is a compilation of all RGIII running plays.

However, I am not sure who is more reckless, Shanahan or RGIII.

RGIII will not last much longer if he keeps getting hit on read-option and pitch plays.

This video will blow your mind:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2UcgGAZNeo

Please let me know your thoughts.

Dylan,

I never disagreed with the fact that running QB's don't last long. I blame Shanahan much more than RGIII because as a player you will do everything to win, Shanahan has to not call so many designed runs.

In terms of the pistol being the reason behind the running I disagree. Not pointing to you in particular but I keep hearing people use the same argument against the pistol becoming more mainstream, that it kills the qb. I continue to believe that the pistol is being confused for the read option. The read option and designed QB sweeps will get someone killed.

Sorter can probably do a much better job than me of describing it but the pistol is just a family of formations, just as the shotgun is.

Any play that the shotgun can run the pistol can run, any play that the I-form can run the pistol can also run. It gives a broader field of vision, a head start on the long stretch plays, and a quarterback has less time with the back to the defense on a play action as he is closer to the runner.

Denver is adding the pistol to their offense and Manning is not mobile. In college football Alabama is using it and AJ sure isn't that mobile.

In short Shanahan overused RGIII but the pistol itself doesn't make it more dangerous to a quarterback

[Quesadilla Joe]

Broncos are probably gonna play their starters the entire first half.

[Mav]

Broncos are probably gonna play their starters the entire first half.

im going to watch this game.

[-King-]

Broncos go 3 and out... Seahawks marching down their throats.

[Garcia Bronco]

We are super weak at middle linebacker. #55 is aweful.

[-King-]

Derek Wolfe going out on a stretcher

[Quesadilla Joe]

Our nickle D is still beastly. Really don't know where the pass rush will come from when we are in our base though, unless Phillips starts at DE.

[Dylan]

Dylan,

I never disagreed with the fact that running QB's don't last long. I blame Shanahan much more than RGIII because as a player you will do everything to win, Shanahan has to not call so many designed runs.

In terms of the pistol being the reason behind the running I disagree. Not pointing to you in particular but I keep hearing people use the same argument against the pistol becoming more mainstream, that it kills the qb. I continue to believe that the pistol is being confused for the read option. The read option and designed QB sweeps will get someone killed.

Sorter can probably do a much better job than me of describing it but the pistol is just a family of formations, just as the shotgun is.

Any play that the shotgun can run the pistol can run, any play that the I-form can run the pistol can also run. It gives a broader field of vision, a head start on the long stretch plays, and a quarterback has less time with the back to the defense on a play action as he is closer to the runner.

Denver is adding the pistol to their offense and Manning is not mobile. In college football Alabama is using it and AJ sure isn't that mobile.

In short Shanahan overused RGIII but the pistol itself doesn't make it more dangerous to a quarterback

Thank you for the response cybortable - you make a good point.

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. RGII was the NFL offensive rookie of the year after rushing for approx 900 yards and it took a tremendous toll on his body. Traditional QBs are hit all the time; put few of them miss games.

NFL defenses are more sophisticated than the college defenses - Last season these young QBs terrorized defenses - However, this season it will be interesting to see how NFL defensive coaches come up with a physically and schematically system to solve the problem.

I hope you do not mind this question - are you a Jets fan or Chiefs fan?

Thanks in advance.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Julius you stud!

[Quesadilla Joe]

Welker you stud.

[Quesadilla Joe]

http://www.tacticaladvantage.com/images/jimp.gif

[-King-]

Dem blown coverages and missed tackles...

[Quesadilla Joe]

I'd rather watch the offense play anyways

[Dylan]

http://www.tacticaladvantage.com/images/jimp.gif

LMAO

[Dylan]

Peyton is doing a great job against Seattle's secondary.

Fun to watch

Both of these teams look good.

[Hammock Parties]

http://www.tacticaladvantage.com/images/jimp.gif

Check the scoreboard, homer.

Your defense is awful.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Check the scoreboard, homer.

Your defense is awful.

Our base defense needs some work. Our nickle D is still elite.

[GordonGekko]

Haha coughed that ball up

[Dylan]

wow 2 fumbles for hillman

[GordonGekko]

Lol, 24-7

And the Broncos are supposed to be the best the AFC have to offer according to the donkey homers on this board...

[Quesadilla Joe]

Lol, 24-7

And the Broncos are supposed to be the best the AFC have to offer according to the donkey homers on this board...

Dude we have played well. Fumbles and a kick return are the only reason the score is 24-7. I'm fine with how our offense looks. The score doesn't matter in the preseason, the way your team plays does.

[SAUTO]

Dude we have played well. Fumbles and a kick return are the only reason the score is 24-7. I'm fine with how our offense looks. The score doesn't matter in the preseason, the way your team plays does.

So fumbling isn't a part of how they play
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[-King-]

Now we can't even see the Seahawks rape the Donkeys some more cause Denver sucks and can't hold on to the ball or cover a return.

[GordonGekko]

Dude we have played well. Fumbles and a kick return are the only reason the score is 24-7. I'm fine with how our offense looks. The score doesn't matter in the preseason, the way your team plays does.

Just doesn't bode well. Seattle looks angry and you can tell they want it more. The Denver running game looks awful.

[GoChargers]

LOL Donks fuckin' suck.

[GordonGekko]

Haven't seen Peyton scramble like that in a LOOONNGGG time.

[Quesadilla Joe]

So fumbling isn't a part of how they play
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Julius Thomas hasn't played much in his career this will be a lessen for him. Hillman wasn't our goal line back last year, he will learn too. We've played well.

[Dylan]

Seattle is up 24 points and their offense has barely touched the field. LOL

[Quesadilla Joe]

LOL Donks ****in' suck.

LMAO

[GordonGekko]

Broncos are a hot mess right now.

Oh well, better to get your bad game out of the way in the preseason where it doesn't mean jack ****.

[SAUTO]

Julius Thomas hasn't played much in his career this will be a lessen for him. Hillman wasn't our goal line back last year, he will learn too. We've played well.
Lol. You're right
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[GordonGekko]

Seattle special teams are incredible. Their defense and special teams are beating the Broncos alone.

NFC West is going to be a slugfest.

[-King-]

Dave Toub is taking notice.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Once we get in our nickle they can't do shit

[Easy 6]

Seattle is up 24 points and their offense has barely touched the field. LOL

Those guys are going to be a BEAST this year, that rookie qb is a rookie no longer and that sick defense has done nothing but further gel and mature.

Who'd have thunk it?.... the hawks are a blue chip POWERHOUSE... under pete ****ing carrol no less

[GordonGekko]

Once we get in our nickle they can't do shit

Lol, Wilson had a TD he just overthrew the guy a little bit. Too long on the bench.

[GordonGekko]

Those guys are going to be a BEAST this year, that rookie qb is a rookie no longer and that sick defense has done nothing but further gel and mature.

Who'd have thunk it?.... the hawks are a blue chip POWERHOUSE... under pete ****ing carrol no less

Carrol has been pretty solid wherever he has been.

He believes in getting the best athletes possible, and he likes defenses that are fast and get in the backfield. He prefers 'blowing plays up' over 'preventing' them.

Seattle has to be a 12 win team this year.

[Dylan]

Those guys are going to be a BEAST this year, that rookie qb is a rookie no longer and that sick defense has done nothing but further gel and mature.

Who'd have thunk it?.... the hawks are a blue chip POWERHOUSE... under pete ****ing carrol no less

Agreed.

I like Wilson. In fact, I like him much better than RGIII and Kaepernick...

Browner is huge and fast...wow

They're a good team and fun to watch.

[the Talking Can]

i was sure carrol would flop....and he's built one of the best and most fun to watch teams in the league...


we've been rebuilding since 2008 meanwhile

[Easy 6]

Carrol has been pretty solid wherever he has been.

He sucked ass in new England, sucked it good.

[GordonGekko]

Wow Peyton took a shot.

Why is he even in the game right now down so much??

[Quesadilla Joe]

Manning finishes the game 11-16 for 163 yds, 1 TD & QB rtg of 122.7.https://twitter.com/BroncosGameday/status/368936979670396928

[GordonGekko]

He sucked ass in new England, sucked it good.

I'm pretty sure he started 6-0 once. I think the Chiefs ended that if I remember right. He had to lean on Bledsoe, anyone would have sucked major donkey dick with Bledsoe.

He also didn't cheat while he coached New England, unlike his successors.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@Jeff_Legwold: #Broncos RBs lost seven fumbles last season, tied them with Buffalo for most in league by that position group.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Nickle D steps up again...

[MotherfuckerJones]

Once we get in our nickle they can't do shit

ROFL Denver would get fucked up by Seattle in a real game.

[Dylan]

i was sure carrol would flop....and he's built one of the best and most fun to watch teams in the league...


we've been rebuilding since 2008 meanwhile

Agreed. All I can say, Carrol figured out how to coach in the NFL. He put an amazing team together...that's for sure. Good guy to root for...And a players coach.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Our base defense needs some work. Our nickle D is still elite.

ROFL you won't need to use nickel if your base is getting worked over.

[GordonGekko]

Damn, can't wait to read the analysis on this first half for the Broncos. They looked like an 8-8 team (maybe).

[Quesadilla Joe]

ROFL you won't need to use nickel if your base is getting worked over.

Ehh, as long as we don't give up big runs we'll get them to 3rd and 8 eventually,.

[GoChargers]

He had to lean on Bledsoe, anyone would have sucked major donkey dick with Bledsoe.

Huh? Parcells coached a Bledsoe-led team to the Super Bowl.

Bledsoe actually wasn't a bad quarterback by any stretch of the imagination. Those '90s Pats were fun to watch and not a bunch of unlikeable, entitled cheats.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Damn, can't wait to read the analysis on this first half for the Broncos. They looked like an 8-8 team (maybe).

We have owned this game aside from the turnovers.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/m292.png

[MotherfuckerJones]

Dude we have played well. Fumbles and a kick return are the only reason the score is 24-7. I'm fine with how our offense looks. The score doesn't matter in the preseason, the way your team plays does.

Just like ya played well against BAL in the playoffs right? (Peyton 2 INTs and 1 fumble)

[MotherfuckerJones]

We have owned this game aside from the turnovers.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/m292.png

You don't own shit!! You turn the ball over like a motherfucker! Just like in the playoffs. That IS NOT playing well.

[-King-]

We have owned this game aside from the turnovers.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/m292.png

Well yeah... Seahawks offense was off the field for 20 minutes LMAO

[Dylan]

Broncos had four fumbles...sloppy

[MotherfuckerJones]

33-7 ROFL I don't give a shit if it's preseason. DEN's RBs are awful. The only reason they'll do halfway decent is because of Manning's threat passing.

[GordonGekko]

We have owned this game aside from the turnovers.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/m292.png

33-7

Not in your favor.

Turnovers are king.

Try again.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I don't care about the score. I just want to see the team play well, and we have. The score means jack squat in the preseason.

[GordonGekko]

Seattle is making the entire AFC look like shit right now, If I'm to believe the donkey homers on this board that this is our best team. Seattle is NFC's 3rd or 4th best.

[GordonGekko]

I don't care about the score. I just want to see the team play well, and we have. The score means jack squat in the preseason.

Of course you don't, Manning was on the field for most of that half and they are still down by 26. Not looking good for you guys, I think the AFC West might be a little more wide open than most thought.

Put it this way, if this half was cloned for the entire game, it would be 66-14. I guess stats are really what matters though, right?

[MotherfuckerJones]

There's that vaunted Denver secondary! Your secondary sucks so bad Baldwin will abuse it...ah maybe not ROFL Bowe will though

[BryanBusby]

Keller just carted off holding his knee. ACL probably

Yeah I don't know about that.

(seriously do not click if you're skirmish)

https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/368905281108856832/photo/1

[MotherfuckerJones]

I don't care about the score. I just want to see the team play well, and we have. The score means jack squat in the preseason.

How have you played well? Even all the NFLN guys are saying aside from Manning and TOP, Denver isn't. Turning the ball over isn't playing well. Giving up return TDs isn't playing well.

[Dylan]

Mariucci, There is nothing to like about Sanchez

[Quesadilla Joe]

We moved the ball at will against the Seahawks first string, the Chiefs couldn't move the ball at all against the 49ers second string. No, this division will not be close.

[GordonGekko]

There's that vaunted Denver secondary! Your secondary sucks so bad Baldwin will abuse it...ah maybe not ROFL Bowe will though

Just wait, KnowMo is going to pull up some stats that will prove you wrong. Their nickel is ADAMANTIUM, inde*******structible!!!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@MoveTheSticks: Yikes! RT @mortreport: Broncos could not afford this loss >> "@TomNalen: Left knee injury for vasquez. let's hope it's not serious.”

[MotherfuckerJones]

@MoveTheSticks: Yikes! RT @mortreport: Broncos could not afford this loss >> "@TomNalen: Left knee injury for vasquez. let's hope it's not serious.”

WOW

[Quesadilla Joe]

@MoveTheSticks: Yikes! RT @mortreport: Broncos could not afford this loss >> "@TomNalen: Left knee injury for vasquez. let's hope it's not serious.”

Vasquez is sitting on the bench, talking with Chris Kuper now. Looks to be in OK shape, but not going back in the game. Helmet is off.https://twitter.com/MaseDenver/status/368940127315185664

[GoChargers]

I don't care about the score. I just want to see the team play well, and we have.

Apparently in Knowmo's world, even when the Donks allow an 107-yard kickoff return TD, a 106-yard fumble return TD, and turn it over three times in the first half alone, they're still "playing well." And that's ignoring the score.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

bwa-hahahahaha Seattle fucking the Donkey's UP.

[GordonGekko]

Apparently in Knowmo's world, even when the Donks allow an 107-yard kickoff return TD, a 106-yard fumble return TD, and turn it over three times in the first half alone, they're still "playing well." And that's ignoring the score.

"It's not the score that counts, it's how the game looks on paper" -- Knowmo

[Dylan]

Curse of death whenever football analysis’s mention an NFL team in the same sentence as Super Bowl.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Reports are Champ is hurt.

[Dylan]

Seahawks are an exciting team...

[GordonGekko]

Reports are Champ is hurt.

No way, he's burnt toast anyway but damn the Broncos are getting bruised up.

[GordonGekko]

No way Seattle has TWO quarterbacks better than our starter? Right? No way...

[DaFace]

Reports are Champ is hurt.

He definitely hobbled off the field on that last TD.

Though it's amusing to see the Broncos play an awful game, I hope he's OK. He's one of the few Broncos players I just can't bring myself to hate.

[Dylan]

I think they mentioned during a broadcast (I might have read it), that head coaches are concerned the new practice rules of one padded practice per day, has led to more football related injuries due to the lack of offseason conditioning and practices.

Something to think about.