Dee Ford has a fractured rib

[Hammock Parties]

yay

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It looks like Dee Ford has a fractured rib per Andy Reid.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/634930427208204289">August 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Psyko Tek]

bust?

[ThaVirus]

Fuck him then

[O.city]

He kicked Okungs ass tonight, hope he heels fast

[MAG]

is that bad

[chiefzilla1501]

Am I the only one that thought that block was pretty dirty? Or am I just being a homer?

[Buehler445]

Holy shit. Estimated recovery?

[Mav]

Am I the only one that thought that block was pretty dirty? Or am I just being a homer?


You're homering. That was a standard chip block.

[Mav]

Holy shit. Estimated recovery?


Probably about 6 weeks.

[thabear04]

Am I the only one that thought that block was pretty dirty? Or am I just being a homer?

The RB didn't have to hit him like that.

[mdchiefsfan]

You're homering. That was a standard chip block.

This. He didn't see it coming and was blindsided. Not the RB's fault at all.

[New World Order]

How is Teddy Bridgewater doing?

[Mav]

The RB didn't have to hit him like that.


He didn't have to but damn it was impressive.

[ThaVirus]

In all seriousness, I was really looking forward to seeing him on some speed rushes in obvious passing situations. This sucks.

Hopefully he can come back sometime before mid-season.

[Tribal Warfare]

Holy shit. Estimated recovery?

it will be at least one month

[Hammock Parties]

How is Teddy Bridgewater doing?

12/14 130 yards, no picks

Vikings first-team offense has run 28 plays for 144 yards and 10 points so far.

[Mav]

How is Teddy Bridgewater doing?


God I hate you sometimes.

[penbrook]

Depends how bad it is. I broke one of my ribs during high school football. I've that bitch up. Wrapped it all up. Put on a rib protector and I was back out the next week. Sucks because it feels like you can't breathe

[saphojunkie]

I thought he played a great game. Having broken ribs myself, here's hoping it isn't a bad recovery, because his first step is sick.

[CoMoChief]

I thought he played a great game. Having broken ribs myself, here's hoping it isn't a bad recovery, because his first step is sick.

So sick that he runs right past the play 90% of the time.

[Hammock Parties]

So sick that he runs right past the play 90% of the time.

Ford makes Eric Fisher look like Willie Roaf.

[aturnis]

You're homering. That was a standard chip block.

Dude came in full force into the side of a guy who was already engaged with a lineman and being well blocked.

If nothing else, it was completely unnecessary and the reason preseason is dangerous for veterans. Young guys taking their chance to show something.

Dude tee'd off.

[Mav]

Dude came in full force into the side of a guy who was already engaged with a lineman and being well blocked.

If nothing else, it was completely unnecessary and the reason preseason is dangerous for veterans. Young guys taking their chance to show something.

Dude tee'd off.


That's the way it's taught.

[mcaj22]

So sick that he runs right past the play 90% of the time.

yup. This is what Clay Matthews does too every play and Packers fans get pissed cause he will go north/south and blow passed the pocket, leaving a giant hole for the RB blocking that might delay for a run, its why they say the Packers run defense is so bad and they are basically playing with 10 players on the field sometimes cause Matthews runs up the field and overshoots the pocket.

[Red Dawg]

He got dropped Rowdy Rhonda style. Cold cocked and out.

[Red Dawg]

Ford makes Eric Fisher look like Willie Roaf.

I thought Eric Fisher name use was banned on this forum. We should never let his memory into our thoughts.

[ChiefRocka]

This. He didn't see it coming and was blindsided. Not the RB's fault at all.

Ford was beasting off the snap and was shell-shocked when he saw another body only after giving him the jolt of a lifetime.

[rico]

Is Teddy still wearing that magic glove on his throwing hand?!?!?!?!?

[ChiefRocka]

Can we throw some bbq on that?

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Prayers sent.

[rico]

Prayers sent.

We've got to pray, just to make it today. God damn!!!!

[Mr. Pink]

Ford looked good to me. He was whipping Okung's butt. So much so that they had to help him.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We've got to pray, just to make it today. God damn!!!!

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[rico]

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[YayMike]

Hopefully he doesn't miss too much time. He played good last night. Loved seeing him opposite of Houston. Rest him for the next 2 weeks, then see how he is for the opener....if he's not 100%, Maybe he'll back by week 2 or 3.

[staylor26]

Ford looked good to me. He was whipping Okung's butt. So much so that they had to help him.

This is why CP is fucking clueless. Anybody that wasn't impressed with Ford's ability to beat a guy like Okung should just stop talking football. He just needs to finish. It will come.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This is why CP is fucking clueless. Anybody that wasn't impressed with Ford's ability to beat a guy like Okung should just stop talking football. He just needs to finish. It will come.

Okay, I have to ask:

Is this Tardian with a new handle?

[staylor26]

Okay, I have to ask:

Is this Tardian with a new handle?

Did Ford not beat Okungs ass off the snap to a point where it led to a false start and help? Do you ****ing watch the games or just sit on CP and post about Alex Smith in the game thread?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Did Ford not beat Okungs ass off the snap to a point where it led to a false start and help? Do you ****ing watch the games or just sit on CP and post about Alex Smith in the game thread?

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT MC RIB, MOTHERFUCKER.

Answer the question.

[mcaj22]

Did Ford not beat Okungs ass off the snap to a point where it led to a false start and help? Do you ****ing watch the games or just sit on CP and post about Alex Smith in the game thread?

He's also going so fast he blows by the play and sometimes doesn't even see things. It looks like Ford has tunnel vision where he's just locked in on the guy in front of him and the path towards the QB, he has zero awareness of anything else.

Dude is going to get owned by delay handoffs, screen passes, unless he fixes it. But Ford is certainly a talent there's no question.

[staylor26]

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT MC RIB, MOTHER****ER.

Answer the question.

You're a ****ing idiot that brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of actual football conversation. Get a ****ing clue.

[staylor26]

He's also going so fast he blows by the play and sometimes doesn't even see things. It looks like Ford has tunnel vision where he's just locked in on the guy in front of him and the path towards the QB, he has zero awareness of anything else.

Dude is going to get owned by delay handoffs, screen passes, unless he fixes it. But Ford is certainly a talent there's no question.

I agree, but I'm also not concerned bc that's something that will come with experience, which Ford just doesn't have yet.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You're a ****ing idiot that brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of actual football conversation. Get a ****ing clue.

Thank you, Tardian.

[Meatloaf]

Damn, I'm not a Ford lover, but he did show some flash last night. Hate that he got injured on the block, but he just didn't see it coming, so he didn't protect himself from the hit. But man, the kid really looks raw to me. Has a fantastic first step, and can clearly push the passer, but beyond that, well, he needs LOTS of reps.....and he now he won't be getting any for the next month? Ugh.

Reminds me of a play way back in the days of Dale Carter. Carter was lining up on the far outside for field goals and extra points. He was coming closer and closer to blocking one of those things. I forget which team we were playing, but on the next FG or extra point, they didn't chip Carter's rush, but rather PULLED A GUARD who absolutely destroyed Carter. He never saw it coming. Actually, that was a pretty cheap play, but from that point on, Carter was heads up on further such rushes.

[mcaj22]

I agree, but I'm also not concerned bc that's something that will come with experience, which Ford just doesn't have yet.

well he better be durable because the only way to gain that experience is to learn the hard way like last night.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Russell has that spin move. He does it a lot. Ford is making progress.

[Marcellus]

Ford was absolutely killing it last night creating pressure. You don't necessarily have to sack the QB for it to be a successful defensive play.

[Rausch]

I love our 1st round draft picks.

LOVE THEM!

[FloridaMan88]

it will be at least one month

Seriously?

Didn't Tony Romo play the week after suffering a similar injury to his rib?

[Rausch]

Our future OLB gut busted up by a 2nd string HB on a chip block.

HE'S A BEAST!

[Rausch]

Seriously?

Didn't Tony Romo play the week after suffering a similar injury to his rib?

4-6.

Yes...

[DaneMcCloud]

Ford showing off his massive talent and speed last night.

It's too bad about the rib fracture but he'll be fine in no time.

I hope he gets a ton of experience this season because if he does, he'll be awesome in 2016.

[OctoberFart]

He should have stuck to the run away from the RB trick he showed last year.

[Rausch]

he'll be awesome in 2016.

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[DaneMcCloud]

.

Again, IF he gets experience this year.

It's clear that he's got the speed and motor to consistently pressure the QB. But like Hali, he'll need time to learn the position, which can't happen if he's on the sideline.

If he can get significant snaps this season, he'll be much better prepared to take over the role in 2016.

[Marcellus]

Again, IF he gets experience this year.

It's clear that he's got the speed and motor to consistently pressure the QB. But like Hali, he'll need time to learn the position, which can't happen if he's on the sideline.

If he can get significant snaps this season, he'll be much better prepared to take over the role in 2016.

Its almost like people forget there was time certain CPers were screaming their guts out to cut Hali.

I believe a large collection of posters were 100% certain he would be a complete disaster in a 3-4 defense.

[notorious]

Anyone that doesn't like what Ford has shown so far is an idiot.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Anyone that doesn't like what Ford has shown so far isn't watching.

FYP

[Meatloaf]

Anyone that doesn't like what Ford has shown so far is an idiot.

Welp, this idiot wasn't too impressed with Ford's play in the first game; but he definitely played better yesterday. To me, verdict is still out on Ford.....but then again, I'm apparently an idiot.

[Rausch]

Again, IF he gets experience this year.

It's clear that he's got the speed and motor to consistently pressure the QB. But like Hali, he'll need time to learn the position, which can't happen if he's on the sideline.

If he can get significant snaps this season, he'll be much better prepared to take over the role in 2016.

When healthy I think Ford could be a top 5 pass rusher.

I honestly believe that.

I also believe he's dog-$#it against the run and he's a walking bruise...

[notorious]

Welp, this idiot wasn't too impressed with Ford's play in the first game; but he definitely played better yesterday. To me, verdict is still out on Ford.....but then again, I'm apparently an idiot.

It's okay, I am an idiot, too, just not with Ford. :D

[Iowanian]

I think it depends which rib is broken and the severity.

I have broken several ribs at different times. As a junior is HS I was able to tape up and wrestle. As a senior I broke ribs on both sides including a bottom floater rib...it was terrible. Couldn't breath deep, didn't want to be touched. I have broken ribs off of my backbone and while terribly uncomfortable could function well.

My guess is 3 weeks he will feel up to working out and could play with shots and or protective equipment.

In the mean time, hope he doesn't have to cough and no one tells him any good jokes for a couple of weeks.

[aturnis]

Ford showing off his massive talent and speed last night.

It's too bad about the rib fracture but he'll be fine in no time.

I hope he gets a ton of experience this season because if he does, he'll be awesome in 2016.

I agree with this. In his limited snaps last season, and this preseason, he's shown that the pass rush won't be a problem.

My main concern with him is playing the run. Still needs work, but I think he'll get better with time.

[DaneMcCloud]

When healthy I think Ford could be a top 5 pass rusher.

I honestly believe that.

I also believe he's dog-$#it against the run and he's a walking bruise...
Hali struggled (and sometimes, still does) against the run when he made the switch from 4-3 end to 3-4 linebacker.

Other than this rib, I don't recall Fisher being injured?

[DaneMcCloud]

I agree with this. In his limited snaps last season, and this preseason, he's shown that the pass rush won't be a problem.

My main concern with him is playing the run. Still needs work, but I think he'll get better with time.

Exactly. He just needs more reps and experience, which will help him with play recognition.

He's got all the talent in the world.

[Iowanian]

Week 1 he looked like a turd...last night was much much better for ford.

[Meatloaf]

It's okay, I am an idiot, too, just not with Ford. :D

Time will tell if Ford's an impact player or not. I hope he is, but a part of me just doesn't see it. For a LB he really seems raw. But, the guy does have an explosive first step. It'll be interesting to see how he develops.

Anyway, sure hope you're right about this guy, notorious.

[notorious]

Time will tell if Ford's an impact player or not. I hope he is, but a part of me just doesn't see it. For a LB he really seems raw. But, the guy does have an explosive first step. It'll be interesting to see how he develops.

Anyway, sure hope you're right about this guy, notorious.

LMAO

Thanks, but when it comes down to it none of us really have a clue how things are going to turn out!

[DaneMcCloud]

Time will tell if Ford's an impact player or not. I hope he is, but a part of me just doesn't see it. For a LB he really seems raw. But, the guy does have an explosive first step. It'll be interesting to see how he develops.

Anyway, sure hope you're right about this guy, notorious.

Of course he's raw. He was a 4-3 defensive end in college and unlike Hali in 2009, he wasn't thrust into a 3-4 OLB position and forced to learn on the job.

The Chiefs were 4-12 that season, so it didn't matter if it took Hali 16 games to become comfortable with the position. But the Chiefs are expected to win more games with that and barring an injury to Hali, Ford's learning curve will be slower, not faster.

[Hammock Parties]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.

[DaneMcCloud]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

Right...

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.

Two years? How has it been two years?

LMAO

[notorious]

Evidently LB years are similar to dog years.

[LoneWolf]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.

What a shocker that your patience is wearing thin. You have the patience of a petulant child.

It's only been 1 year with Ford, and when he played towards the end of last season, he showed good improvement from his embarrassing play from earlier in the year. He showed extremely quickness yesterday and the ability to be disruptive as a pass rusher. He showed this ability against a good LT. Nobody should be anything but encouraged by his performance at the end of last year and in yesterday's preseason game.

[DaneMcCloud]

Evidently LB years are similar to dog years.

More dumbassery by our resident troll.

Also, where's the knock on Dion Jordan and Barkevious Mingo, two pass rushers taken in 2013 much higher than Ford?

[Hammock Parties]

Right...

It's true. It's not remotely like QB or WR or CB.


Two years? How has it been two years?

LMAO

This is the start of his second year. He ain't showing jack. And he's hurt again for who knows how long?

Not feeling great about him.

[SAUTO]

Right...



Two years? How has it been two years?

LMAO

ROFL, it's been two years if you don't know how to count.

[Hammock Parties]

Also, where's the knock on Dion Jordan and Barkevious Mingo, two pass rushers taken in 2013 much higher than Ford?

Jordan is a bust.

Mingo at least had 5 sacks as a rookie. If Ford had done that I'd be far more lenient.

[DaneMcCloud]

It's true. It's not remotely like QB or WR or CB.

Then what do you have to say about Dion Jordan, taken #3 overall in 2013 or Barkevious Mingo, taken #6 overall?

How about Khalil Mack, taken #5 overall by the Raiders? He started 16 games and had four sacks.

Dee Ford didn't start a single game and barely played, yet had 1.5 sacks.

LMAO

Dumbass.

This is the start of his second year. He ain't showing jack. And he's hurt again for who knows how long?

Not feeling great about him.

That's because you're either trolling or you're fucking stupid.

Probably both.

[SAUTO]

Jordan is a bust.

Mingo at least had 5 sacks as a rookie. If Ford had done that I'd be far more lenient.

ROFL who did Mingo play behind?

[Hammock Parties]

Agree to disagree.

I'll be very surprised if Ford ever pans out.

[Mr. Laz]

I wouldn't think a standard broken rib would take that long.


depends where and what type of break


after it heal up a little he can just play with a flak jacket

[MotherfuckerJones]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.

This is his second year FFS! He was a rookie last season. He's progressing. He'll be alright.

[MotherfuckerJones]

It's true. It's not remotely like QB or WR or CB.



This is the start of his second year. He ain't showing jack. And he's hurt again for who knows how long?

Not feeling great about him.

He's not showing anything? Wow you really don't know what the fuck you're watching. JFC Clay do you get dumber by the day?

[LoneWolf]

Rookie years:

Mingo 634 snaps played on defense and 5 sacks. A sack every 126.8 plays.

Ford 122 snaps played on defense and 1.5 sacks. A sack every 81.3 plays.

Clay, your football opinion is much like your life, worthless.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Then what do you have to say about Dion Jordan, taken #3 overall in 2013 or Barkevious Mingo, taken #6 overall?

How about Khalil Mack, taken #5 overall by the Raiders? He started 16 games and had four sacks.

Dee Ford didn't start a single game and barely played, yet had 1.5 sacks.

LMAO

Dumbass.



That's because you're either trolling or you're ****ing stupid.

Probably both.

You can't talk logically with the village troll.

[Hammock Parties]

He's not showing anything? Wow you really don't know what the fuck you're watching. JFC Clay do you get dumber by the day?

Apparently blowing sack opportunities is progress to the homers around here.

Lowered expectations.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Rookie years:

Mingo 634 snaps played on defense and 5 sacks. A sack every 126.8 plays.

Ford 122 snaps played on defense and 1.5 sacks. A sack every 81.3 plays.

Clay, your football opinion is much like your life, worthless.

He's rooting for failure and it's clouding his mind. He's becoming a retard.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Apparently blowing sack opportunities is progress to the homers around here.

Lowered expectations.

Lol ok buddy. You keep telling yourself that. Everyone on here is a "homer" but you. Gotcha.

[DaneMcCloud]

Apparently blowing sack opportunities is progress to the homers around here.

Lowered expectations.

And this is why you need to be banned or MU'd.

It only took one game for you to start acting like a jackass again.

[penbrook]

Ford will be ready week 1

[Hammock Parties]

And this is why you need to be banned or MU'd.

It only took one game for you to start acting like a jackass again.

Difference of opinion = jackass

Sure thing, Dane.

Meanwhile you're hurling personal insults left and right the last two days.

[LoneWolf]

Ford will be ready week 1

Yep.

[O.city]

It's not difference of opinion, it's a lack of football understanding yet parading around as if it's just a difference of opinion.

[MotherfuckerJones]

And this is why you need to be banned or MU'd.

It only took one game for you to start acting like a jackass again.

He missed the sack on Russell Wilson who is a very mobile QB. He has that spin move. Pass rushers miss sacks a lot from that. Romo does it too and it works. JFC clay. He really should just go away for a little while.

[aturnis]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.

1. Most aren't changing positions.

2. Houston had a learning period.

[Hammock Parties]

It's not difference of opinion, it's a lack of football understanding yet parading around as if it's just a difference of opinion.

Yeah man, that's it. Everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. :rolleyes:

And you call me a troll.

[DaneMcCloud]

Difference of opinion = jackass

Sure thing, Dane.

Difference of opinion?

LMAO


Meanwhile you're hurling personal insults left and right the last two days.

Personal? I don't know anything about you, personally, other than what you pretend to be in the forum.

Calling you out for dumbassery isn't "personal".

If you chose to be a dumbass, don't expect people to overlook it, especially in the manner in which you behave in this forum.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Difference of opinion = jackass

Sure thing, Dane.

Meanwhile you're hurling personal insults left and right the last two days.

It's not a difference of opinion. You're just dumb and don't understand what you're watching and you continue to troll. Not good might I add.

[Hammock Parties]

If you chose to be a dumbass, don't expect people to overlook it, especially in the manner in which you behave in the forum.

You are far worse. Especially last night in the game thread. Just pounding people left and right with name-calling.

[DaneMcCloud]

Yeah man, that's it. Everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. :rolleyes:

And you call me a troll.

Says the know-nothing know-it-all

[jonzie04]

He missed the sack on Russell Wilson who is a very mobile QB. He has that spin move. Pass rushers miss sacks a lot from that. Romo does it too and it works. JFC clay. He really should just go away for a little while.

What about the sack he missed last week when he just flat out bounced off the QB?

I think people are getting too worked up here. Ford has shown some flashes, but on the flip side he has looked god awful at times, and its easy to see either point of view. He did work the shit out of Okung last night though.

[O.city]

Yeah man, that's it. Everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. :rolleyes:

And you call me a troll.

Said nothing of the such, but ok

[Hammock Parties]

Says the know-nothing know-it-all

You just can't take anyone disagreeing with you on anything.

[Mav]

Our future OLB gut busted up by a 2nd string HB on a chip block.



HE'S A BEAST!


Because place on the depth chart matters......

This is the type of shit that pisses me off.

[Otter]

Does it look like Dee runs too upright to anyone else? He just looks like he's getting ready to jump a hurdle as opposed getting ready to give/take a hit.

[DaneMcCloud]

You are far worse. Especially last night in the game thread. Just pounding people left and right with name-calling.

Nonsense.

The only two people I called out were Rudy the Troll and Pete.

[The Franchise]

Paylor just said on Sirius XM that David Chow (former NFL physician) that Ford could be ready for week 1 if it's just a fracture.

[Mav]

First round pass rushers generally don't need learning curves. Most of them hit the ground running and are either at least moderately successful as rookies, or bust out.

It's been two years now for Ford and he hasn't done jack. My patience is wearing thin.


Example? Dee Ford was taken as a developmental eventual replacement for Hali. He's learning to stand up.

[O.city]

Paylor just said on Sirius XM that David Chow (former NFL physician) that Ford could be ready for week 1 if it's just a fracture.

Ford tweeted that he's ok, or that's what a buddy said. True?

[MotherfuckerJones]

Paylor just said on Sirius XM that David Chow (former NFL physician) that Ford could be ready for week 1 if it's just a fracture.

Hopefully it's only a fracture and didn't do any further damage.

[RunKC]

Paylor just said on Sirius XM that David Chow (former NFL physician) that Ford could be ready for week 1 if it's just a fracture.

Still would sit him out a few weeks to be 100%. I'm not worried too much by this bc we have Tamba.

[aturnis]

This is the start of his second year. He ain't showing jack. And he's hurt again for who knows how long?

Not feeling great about him.

2014

He's shown lots of promise. If you look at his production last season over very limited pass rush opportunities, he was actually pretty productive.

ARI

Just watched all of his snaps from the AZ ps game. He looked fine. Mostly run defense, which admittedly is an area in which he has a long way to go.

On passing plays, he dropped into coverage a few times, was only stonewalled a couple times, and put serious pressure on Thomas a few times. Only missing a sack to Thomas's strength.

Also drew a holding penalty in run D.

SEA

Looked good. Haven't gone back to reevaluate, so I'm not sure about his run defense, but I'd expect he could use some experience and the same aggression he brings to the pass rush.

Got pressure on Wilson multiple times. Barely missed a sack or two.

As for the injury, he took a serious cheap shot to the ribs.

No reason to worry about him at this point.

[Rasputin]

bust?

Broke apart ~in mid air

[aturnis]

Rookie years:

Mingo 634 snaps played on defense and 5 sacks. A sack every 126.8 plays.

Ford 122 snaps played on defense and 1.5 sacks. A sack every 81.3 plays.

Clay, your football opinion is much like your life, worthless.

This doesn't even factor in how many of the plays were pass rushing opportunities or how often the player dropped into coverage.

[aturnis]

Apparently blowing sack opportunities is progress to the homers around here.

Lowered expectations.

No, it's inexperience at the pro level.

Wonder how many got away from Mingo last year.

[aturnis]

He missed the sack on Russell Wilson who is a very mobile QB. He has that spin move. Pass rushers miss sacks a lot from that. Romo does it too and it works. JFC clay. He really should just go away for a little while.

Russell Wilson makes EVERYONE miss. EVERYONE.

[Hammock Parties]

Russell Wilson makes EVERYONE miss. EVERYONE.

Poe and Hali got him last year.

Ford has a long way to go.

[aturnis]

Poe and Hali got him last year.

Ford has a long way to go.

Nobody said he makes everyone miss every time. Dumbass.

He's elusive. That's very well established.

[DaneMcCloud]

Ford has a long way to go.

You have a long way to go

[Hammock Parties]

Nobody said he makes everyone miss every time. Dumbass.

He's elusive. That's very well established.

Was there a reason Ford didn't get a sack in the first preseason game, or...?

[aturnis]

Was there a reason Ford didn't get a sack in the first preseason game, or...?

Sure. Thomas got away from him once, maybe twice. Big guy. Has the elusive potential of Roethlisberger.

Is there a reason Houston doesn't have a sack this preseason or...?

[Hammock Parties]

Sure. Thomas got away from him once, maybe twice. Big guy. Has the elusive potential of Roethlisberger.

Is there a reason Houston doesn't have a sack this preseason or...?

Houston is an established pro. He doesn't enter into it.

When do you think Ford will get a sack this year? I expect first-round pass rushers to get sacks. Don't you?

[aturnis]

Houston is an established pro. He doesn't enter into it.

When do you think Ford will get a sack this year? I expect first-round pass rushers to get sacks. Don't you?

By your metric, he does.

He got them last year, in the regular season. He's shown great ability to get to the passer this preseason.

Pass rush will not be a problem.

If you want to criticize him, do it where it makes sense in run defense.

[scho63]

Russell Wilson makes EVERYONE miss. EVERYONE.

Poe and Hali got him last year.

Ford has a long way to go.


Russell Wilson has the same spin move as Romo but with 10x's more speed after the escape.

A good veteran knows his tendency and protects the outside. I admire his hustle after the miss.

I don't think he has a LONG way to go but certainly needs improvement but I think he will be good.

[keg in kc]

Thought he looked pretty good before he got absolutely drilled. He looks like he's starting to move more naturally, like he has to think less about what he's doing. Which was the advantage Houston had over him coming out (Houston being a 3-4 OLB already in college).

[beach tribe]

A certain percentage of players are inevitably going to get hurt.
This is a sigh of relief compared to what we have been through.

[Titty Meat]

I don't know how you can label a guy that gets to the QB a bust. He's not Lawrence Taylor but he's not Vernon Gholston either. Hes shown in limited playing time last year he can get to the QB same with this pre season. Just because he didn't play a lot doesn't mean he's a bust.

[beach tribe]

If he is ready to produce we will need him most later in the year when Hali wears down.
This is nothing in my eyes.

[notorious]

If he is ready to produce we will need him most later in the year when Hali wears down.
This is nothing in my eyes.

I was hoping he would be around to keep Hali fresh throughout every game during the season, and for ending the game lining all of them up to rape the other team.

[beach tribe]

I don't know how you can label a guy that gets to the QB a bust. He's not Lawrence Taylor but he's not Vernon Fholston either. Hes shown in limited playing time last year he can get to the QB same with this pre season. Just because he didn't play a lot doesn't mean he's a bust.

His first steps jumps off the screen and brings you're eyes straight to him.
That is uncoachable, and almost unstoppable when the lean is developed.
He's trying. He knows what he needs to do.
It takes reps to get the timing of the arm rip down. Then, shit, look out.

[beach tribe]

I was hoping he would be around to keep Hali fresh throughout every game during the season, and for ending the game lining all of them up to rape the other team.
Me too, but Sutton won't do it.
Hali will take himself out more later in the season.

[notorious]

Me too, but Sutton won't do it.
Hali will take himself out more later in the season.

Ughhhhh.



You are right. Sutton refuses to sub in to keep guys fresh. :(

[Tribal Warfare]

His first steps jumps off the screen and brings you're eyes straight to him.
That is uncoachable, and almost unstoppable when the lean is developed.
He's trying. He knows what he needs to do.
It takes reps to get the timing of the arm rip down. Then, shit, look out.

He isn't Derrick ( who was like a track star) but if/when he learns technique he'll be more in the Jared Allen/Dwight Freeney mold.

[aturnis]

Me too, but Sutton won't do it.
Hali will take himself out more later in the season.

I think it depends on the game. If we get a lead, expect more pass rush and more Dee.

If we get behind and they try to run out the clock, gotta have Tamba in there for his run D.

[Mr. Laz]

I'm surprised that Maclin didn't have a hip bruise or something after that hit he took.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Counts evaluations are pretty sad. Dee is a player.

[Hammock Parties]

Counts evaluations are pretty sad. Dee is a player.

I'll believe it when I see it.

I bet he doesn't have 3 sacks this year.

Shit, is he even gonna make it back on the field?

[Bob Dole]

By your metric, he does.

He got them last year, in the regular season. He's shown great ability to get to the passer this preseason.

Pass rush will not be a problem.

If you want to criticize him, do it where it makes sense in run defense.

Yeah, but in Clay's world, he should have 6 already.

And no starting QB ever throws an INT.

[NJChiefsFan]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I bet he doesn't have 3 sacks this year.

Shit, is he even gonna make it back on the field?

Ford has been showing up in the backfield a decent amount, and was last year as well considering his playing time. I certainly hope he can overcome his run and don't think mentality, gain some football IQ, and finish plays. If he keeps creating pressure, the impact should soon follow. As they say in hockey, it's when the scoring chances disappear that you worry, not when the scoring does.

I still believe he becomes a good player, it just may not be in the speed you expect out of a first rounder learning from 2 great OLB's.

[penbrook]

Ford will be ready week 1 guarantee it

[Mav]

No, it's inexperience at the pro level.

Wonder how many got away from Mingo last year.


TONS. Mingo is so poor as a pass rusher that they now use him strictly in pass coverage.

[Mav]

He isn't Derrick ( who was like a track star) but if/when he learns technique he'll be more in the Jared Allen/Dwight Freeney mold.


Really poor comparison.

He's built more like Von Miller.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I don't expect much from Ford while Hali and Houston are getting all the snaps.

[Mav]

I don't expect much from Ford while Hali and Houston are getting all the snaps.


I wondered how long it was going to take for someone to point this out.

"Dee ford sucks! ". "Bust" "scrub"

It's not like Hali is anywhere near a scrub.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wondered how long it was going to take for someone to point this out.

"Dee ford sucks! ". "Bust" "scrub"

It's not like Hali is anywhere near a scrub.

Experience kind of matters.

[RunKC]

Ford got a positive run blocking grade (0.8), drew a holding call from a TE on a run play, drew another penalty from a false start and recorded 2 hurries, 1 was only not a sack BC Wilson is an elite scrambler.

He looked very good

[MotherfuckerJones]

Ford practiced today

@adamteicher: Dee Ford indeed was practicing. Again he took Tamba Hali's snaps in full team drills

[DJ's left nut]

It's not a difference of opinion. You're just dumb and don't understand what you're watching and you continue to troll. Not good might I add.

He actually got less tolerable when he allowed his PFF subscription to lapse.

At least PFF would give him some direction and he could work around it to build his narrative. Now he's just spews inane nonsense with no basis in reality whatsoever.

[MotherfuckerJones]

He actually got less tolerable when he allowed his PFF subscription to lapse.

At least PFF would give him some direction and he could work around it to build his narrative. Now he's just spews inane nonsense with no basis in reality whatsoever.

My favorite so far is how he shit on Sean Smith and he's become our best corner and was top 5 last season.

[DJ's left nut]

My favorite so far is how he shit on Sean Smith and he's become our best corner and was top 5 last season.

See, and without PFF he'd have just shit on Sean Smith anyway but he'd have done it without fancy charts to selectively utilize when they fit his pre-conceived narratives.

The problem was that other people got PFF as well and started pointing out just how badly the guy was manipulating data. When he could no longer rile up the masses by omitting and/or massaging relevant information, he just decided to let his account expire.

[staylor26]

Ford got a positive run blocking grade (0.8), drew a holding call from a TE on a run play, drew another penalty from a false start and recorded 2 hurries, 1 was only not a sack BC Wilson is an elite scrambler.

He looked very good

But some idiots on here were calling him a bust and a pussy ROFL

[DJ's left nut]

But some idiots on here were calling him a bust and a pussy ROFL

I think I asked Laz in the other thread, but I'd really like to have a conversation on the guy's run defense.

People say it's lacking; some say it can't be an asset. I'm curious what they're seeing here. I think I'm probably among the bigger Ford backers on the board so I'll concede that I may be biased.

But apart from one admittedly awful looking play against the Niners last year (which was mostly just a mis-diagnosed attempt at coverage), what is it that people see from Ford that says he can't be at least an average to slightly above average run support OLB? The guy definitely has a motor on him. He's not a small player at 250 lbs. His hands are actually pretty quick so he should be able to keep a lot of O-lineman from engaging him and win a few hand fights.

Sure, as with any player he'll need to refine his instincts, but apart from that, why are we putting the ceiling on his ability as a run defender at 'below average'?

And I've made this point a handful of times with nary a response in return, but can anybody tell me what distinguishes Dee Ford from a pre-draft Dante Fowler as a prospect? Measurables slightly favor Ford; production is largely a wash coming out of the same conference (with Ford getting a slight edge in strength of competition).

There's so damn much to like about this guy. If draft guides would have been calling him a top 10 pick and he slid to the Chiefs at 23, people would have seen it as a 'BPA pick' and lauded Dorsey for his willingness to go after the best available talent. But because Mel Kiper and an endless array of shitheads that have been proven wrong more often than they've been vindicated didn't have the guy as a top pick, everyone is eager to call him a bust.

He's playing behind a guy that will merely go into the Chiefs Hall of Fame within a few years of retirement and another guy that's playing at a level that will get him in the NFL Hall of Fame if he keeps it up. I'd say it's okay to pro-rate his performance for lack of PT at this point.

The guy has flashed a shitload of ability and just absolutely handed an All-Pro offensive tackle his ass. I do not understand why people want to shit on him every chance they get.

[penbrook]

Ford practiced today

@adamteicher: Dee Ford indeed was practicing. Again he took Tamba Hali's snaps in full team drills

Told you all he would be ready week 1 😊

[-King-]

I think I asked Laz in the other thread, but I'd really like to have a conversation on the guy's run defense.

People say it's lacking; some say it can't be an asset. I'm curious what they're seeing here. I think I'm probably among the bigger Ford backers on the board so I'll concede that I may be biased.

But apart from one admittedly awful looking play against the Niners last year (which was mostly just a mis-diagnosed attempt at coverage), what is it that people see from Ford that says he can't be at least an average to slightly above average run support OLB? The guy definitely has a motor on him. He's not a small player at 250 lbs. His hands are actually pretty quick so he should be able to keep a lot of O-lineman from engaging him and win a few hand fights.

Sure, as with any player he'll need to refine his instincts, but apart from that, why are we putting the ceiling on his ability as a run defender at 'below average'?

And I've made this point a handful of times with nary a response in return, but can anybody tell me what distinguishes Dee Ford from a pre-draft Dante Fowler as a prospect? Measurables slightly favor Ford; production is largely a wash coming out of the same conference (with Ford getting a slight edge in strength of competition).

There's so damn much to like about this guy. If draft guides would have been calling him a top 10 pick and he slid to the Chiefs at 23, people would have seen it as a 'BPA pick' and lauded Dorsey for his willingness to go after the best available talent. But because Mel Kiper and an endless array of shitheads that have been proven wrong more often than they've been vindicated didn't have the guy as a top pick, everyone is eager to call him a bust.

He's playing behind a guy that will merely go into the Chiefs Hall of Fame within a few years of retirement and another guy that's playing at a level that will get him in the NFL Hall of Fame if he keeps it up. I'd say it's okay to pro-rate his performance for lack of PT at this point.

The guy has flashed a shitload of ability and just absolutely handed an All-Pro offensive tackle his ass. I do not understand why people want to shit on him every chance they get.

Yeah, but he couldn't wrap up Russell Wilson, so he must suck.

[The Franchise]

Told you all he would be ready week 1 😊

Shut.

The.

Fuck.

Up.

[staylor26]

I think I asked Laz in the other thread, but I'd really like to have a conversation on the guy's run defense.

People say it's lacking; some say it can't be an asset. I'm curious what they're seeing here. I think I'm probably among the bigger Ford backers on the board so I'll concede that I may be biased.

But apart from one admittedly awful looking play against the Niners last year (which was mostly just a mis-diagnosed attempt at coverage), what is it that people see from Ford that says he can't be at least an average to slightly above average run support OLB? The guy definitely has a motor on him. He's not a small player at 250 lbs. His hands are actually pretty quick so he should be able to keep a lot of O-lineman from engaging him and win a few hand fights.

Sure, as with any player he'll need to refine his instincts, but apart from that, why are we putting the ceiling on his ability as a run defender at 'below average'?

And I've made this point a handful of times with nary a response in return, but can anybody tell me what distinguishes Dee Ford from a pre-draft Dante Fowler as a prospect? Measurables slightly favor Ford; production is largely a wash coming out of the same conference (with Ford getting a slight edge in strength of competition).

There's so damn much to like about this guy. If draft guides would have been calling him a top 10 pick and he slid to the Chiefs at 23, people would have seen it as a 'BPA pick' and lauded Dorsey for his willingness to go after the best available talent. But because Mel Kiper and an endless array of shitheads that have been proven wrong more often than they've been vindicated didn't have the guy as a top pick, everyone is eager to call him a bust.

He's playing behind a guy that will merely go into the Chiefs Hall of Fame within a few years of retirement and another guy that's playing at a level that will get him in the NFL Hall of Fame if he keeps it up. I'd say it's okay to pro-rate his performance for lack of PT at this point.

The guy has flashed a shitload of ability and just absolutely handed an All-Pro offensive tackle his ass. I do not understand why people want to shit on him every chance they get.

I couldn't agree more. His run defense still needs improvement, but it's already significantly better and I see no reason he doesn't continue to improve. I wasn't very high on Fowler and felt he was overrated. Thought the Jags should have gone with Williams (BPA) or Beasley if they wanted a LEO. Both guys looked amazing this weekend.

I'm also a huge Ford fan and felt he was the best player on the field in the NC game against FSU after I went back and watched. That's saying a lot in a game that was LOADED with NFL talent. Winston must have nightmares about that guy.

[penbrook]

Shut.

The.

****.

Up.

Just because I'm right!!

[-King-]

Just because I'm right!!

No one cares. People are right and wrong on this board everyday. Stop sucking your own dick because you read a few tweets and inferred something from them.

[Mr. Laz]

I think I asked Laz in the other thread, but I'd really like to have a conversation on the guy's run defense..

don't think it was me

[DJ's left nut]

It was not. It was Rausch.

But like I said, I'm open to being convinced otherwise. We all have our blind spots and Ford's run defense may be among mine (along with possibly mis-placed confidence in the overall ability of a comfortable Alex Smith as well as our O-line's ability to create the aforementioned comfortable Smith). I'm just curious why folks don't think there's any way he can be a solid run defender.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I'm on the Ford bandwagon. He's improving and it's shown in these games.

[FlaChief58]

According to kcchiefs.com Ford did practice today

[RunKC]

@Jacobs71: Dee Ford had a bruise. It was not a broken rib like it originally looked like.

Looks like he's fine. Appears to be a bone bruise.

[Rain Man]

That would make sense. It didn't seem like he got hit in the rib.

Honestly, that hit worries me. It was a hard hit, but not something that should take a linebacker out of the game. I like Ford's pass rush speed, but I hope he's not a big softie.

[-King-]

That would make sense. It didn't seem like he got hit in the rib.

Honestly, that hit worries me. It was a hard hit, but not something that should take a linebacker out of the game. I like Ford's pass rush speed, but I hope he's not a big softie.

They aren't going to let him keep playing after a hit like that in a preseason game.

[ThaVirus]

Ford got a positive run blocking grade (0.8), drew a holding call from a TE on a run play, drew another penalty from a false start and recorded 2 hurries, 1 was only not a sack BC Wilson is an elite scrambler.

He looked very good



Ford practiced today

@adamteicher: Dee Ford indeed was practicing. Again he took Tamba Hali's snaps in full team drills



@Jacobs71: Dee Ford had a bruise. It was not a broken rib like it originally looked like.

Looks like he's fine. Appears to be a bone bruise.


Awesome. So fucking awesome.

[DJ's left nut]

That would make sense. It didn't seem like he got hit in the rib.

Honestly, that hit worries me. It was a hard hit, but not something that should take a linebacker out of the game. I like Ford's pass rush speed, but I hope he's not a big softie.

It was a pretty damn big hit.

He left himself really exposed. Most pass-rushers know better than to allow themselves to get stood upright like that. It's not like he got hit by a small guy - Christine Michael is 5'10'', 221 lbs and got to launch himself right into an exposed spot on Ford.

Most guys that take that hit are going to come out of it pretty poorly. The trick for Ford is to make sure he doesn't do that again. He's gotta play with better pad level or it won't be the last time someone makes a run at him like that.

[ThaVirus]

It's strange that Houston is only listed as about 10 pounds heavier than Ford but appears so much more robust

[staylor26]

It's strange that Houston is only listed as about 10 pounds heavier than Ford but appears so much more robust

While I agree, Ford looks significantly bigger this season.

[Halfcan]

Told you all he would be ready week 1 😊

LMAO I think you need your own thread so we can keep track of all your positive prognostications.

[DJ's left nut]

It's strange that Houston is only listed as about 10 pounds heavier than Ford but appears so much more robust

UNDERWEAR OLYMPICS TIME!!!!!

http://media.al.com/alphotos/photo/2014/02/14229902-standard.jpg

Ford ain't exactly frail. And that's coming out of the Senior Bowl; he's evidently about 6-8 lbs heavier since then.

His size is why I'm not really all that worried about his ability against the run. People seem to believe that he's built like Randy Gregory but that's just not the case. He's not really that far removed from Houston and I definitely don't think he's any smaller than Houston was in his second year. Those guys have pretty similar body types and there's no doubt in my mind that was part of what appealed to Dorsey when he made the pick.

[ThaVirus]

This thread just took a turn for the gay

[ThaVirus]

I'll tell you what I think it is: just my perception.

I think of Ford as a speed guy and Houston as a power guy. Not that Houston isn't speedy or Ford isn't strong, I think I just tend to view the two in relation to their play style.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lil' Bruisey gonna' be 'aight.

[ChiefRocka]

Ford reminds me of a young Lawrence Taylor, only lighter skin and less jheri curl.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEIMwMtCAAAGP2M.jpg:largehttp://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/red-zone/7zqmnc/picture407818/ALTERNATES/FREE_320/IMG_DEEFORD_SP_050914_DR_19_1_M728R120_L54136450.JPG

[ThaVirus]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEIMwMtCAAAGP2M.jpg:large

What in ****'s name are those little chicken skin bumps? Every black guy I know has those somewhere. My dad has them on the back of his neck, me roommate has them on his cheek, LT had them on his neck.

It has something to do with razors.

[mdchiefsfan]

Chiefs' Dee Ford did not break his rib, will play vs. Titans

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/8/27/9214245/chiefs-dee-ford-did-not-break-his-rib-will-play-vs-titans

Turns out, Dee Ford does not have a broken rib.

I was standing in the Chiefs press conference room after last week's game when Andy Reid said that Ford, who was hit with a nasty chip block from the Seahawks' Christine Michael, had possibly broken a rib.

Reid said Wednesday that more tests were done and Ford actually did not break his rib.

"He just had a bruise, it was just a bruise," Reid said, via quotes from the Chiefs. "Initially, it looked like that on the MRI, but it wasn't a break once they looked at it."

That's good news for Ford, although I'm sure a bruised rib is still painful. He will play on Friday against Tennessee though.

"Dee will work in a rotation in there," Reid said. "He'll be in there, so he's good."

The rotation will be with Tamba Hali who is expected to play. The Chiefs rested Tamba last week while giving more snaps to Ford, which went pretty well for him until the rib injury. Here's to another solid game from Ford.

[mdchiefsfan]

Already posted apologies

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

He worries me !

[bsp4444]

He worries me !

Why, are you lining up under center?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Why, are you lining up under center?

Welp, because that's where your mom is . :p

[Mav]

What in ****'s name are those little chicken skin bumps? Every black guy I know has those somewhere. My dad has them on the back of his neck, me roommate has them on his cheek, LT had them on his neck.

It has something to do with razors.


They are razor bumps.....