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gblowfish
09-13-2015, 04:33 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. I woke up early this morning. I never sleep very well the night before the season opener. Here in KC it was a cool clear morning. So around 6:30 I hung out the Chiefs Flag on the front porch, picked up the Sunday Paper in the yard, brewed up some strong black coffee (Maxwell House, no foo foo coffee for the kid) and poured it into my long time favorite ceramic Chiefs mug; the same one I've had game day morning coffee from since the early 1980s. I was expecting a low scoring game. I was half right. This was a game of two halves, showcasing the really good Chiefs who have a chance to do some playoff damage; and the really mediocre Chiefs, who fritter away leads and can't deliver the kill shot. So, depending on if you are a glass half empty or a glass half full person, you can make a case for either side. Since I think this is a borderline playoff team, I'll discuss both sides, but look through this universal prism: Any win is a good win; and any win on the road is a gooder win. And a win on the road for a season opener is a goodest win of all.

9. The stat sheet and the headline in the paper will say "Alex Smith threw for 243 yards with three TDs and no picks." And that is true. Alex played well enough to guide this team to victory, by scoring enough in the first half to put it just.....just....far enough out of reach to hold on in the second half. Both TD passes to Kelce were well thrown. And KC made Houston pay for their mistakes, on a pick and sack-fumble inside their own 20. But Smith was pretty much 2014 Smith. He only averaged 6.7 yards per reception, and KC was 2-12 on third down. Smith rushed nine times for 15 yards, most of those rushes were running for his life from Watt and Clowney. When Smith did throw relatively long, Maclin juggled one pass falling out of bounds -which was an almost completion, and on another occasion in the fourth quarter, Smith flat out over threw Maclin who had a step on coverage. So teams are going to start concentrating on Kelce, who is Smith's security blanket; and not worry much about Maclin being a deep threat until its proven Smith can hit him in coverage and make it stick. Maclin ended with 52 yard on five catches, and had an injury scare. Really wondering whether he'll make it through the year in one piece. At least he played today, which is more than we can say for the guy he replaced. Smith spread the ball to seven different receivers, which is what Reid's offense is all about. Usually that's a good stat when we have that many guys involved in the passing game.

8. Kelce was the offensive star today with six catches -he caught the ball every time it was thrown at him- and 106 yards. Both TDs were things of beauty, but he also had several key blocks helping Charles gain yards. His most clutch catch was with about four minutes left to sustain a fourth quarter drive to kill clock on Houston's comeback effort. Smith checked down to him way short of a first down, and Kelce ducked a tackle by the linebacker in coverage, and had just enough burst to get past the sticks and move the chains. That play, and Maclin recovering the onside kick, were the most important plays in the fourth quarter. Kelce also had an injury scare after taking a tough hit on a reception. When he was pulled out, the offense ground to a halt. His health is also a major concern as the season rolls on.

7. Charles averaged 3.6 yards a carry on 16 carries. That's against arguably one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Charles had several good burst plays, squirting through and falling forward as he usually does, and also looked good catching the ball, with a great second effort on his TD to get inside the pylon. Charles was also money in pass protection, saving Smith's bacon on several plays from blitzes. Well rounded performance by Charles, and I'm glad they got Davis into the mix enough to give Charles a blow now and then. That's going to be critical this year to keep Charles available all through the year.

6. JJ Watt is a monster. He had two sacks -including one after his helmet was ripped off his head- with nine tackles, six of those for a loss. There were a couple plays where Watt went totally unblocked, which is baffling to me. I don't know if that's a blown blocking assignment, or sheer stupidity on the Chiefs part. One play was a Smith naked bootleg, who rolled head on into an un-blocked Watt for a loss. Yikes. Considering our big time, big contract first pick in the NFL draft cornerstone left tackle could only manage to play on one snap in the fourth quarter today, I thought Jah Reid did a decent job on Watt. This is a guy who was cast off as not good enough to even make the Ravens' roster, and after he practices with the team for a couple days, we start him against JJ Watt. He didn't get Alex killed, so that's a very good thing. I also thought Mitch Morse did a great job as a rookie playing his first NFL regular game. Jabba the Wilfork did little today, and Morse was out on screens blocking for Charles on several plays. Stephenson may have dislocated a finger in the fourth quarter, and let's hope that doesn't side line him. He also had a fine game. O-Line only had one penalty that I can think of (when Reid ripped off Watt's helmet) but that was declined by Houston. Houston's defense started winning the line battle in the second half. That plus Andy Reid going ultra conservative again - trying not to lose instead of rendering a kill shot - meant no points in the second half. All in all, O-Line had a plus day.

5. Chiefs won the battle of the specials. Houston's kicker Bullock whiffed on an extra point, which put pressure Houston the rest of the game. It really changed the complexion of the first half, and later Houston was pressed to convert a two pointer to get it back. Our Brazilian Midget hit all his XPTs, although he hit a couple ducks that went through ugly. Santos also missed a 50 yarder that would have given us some extra fourth quarter cushion, but did hit from 48 in the first half. Thomas had 81 yards on five punt returns -although he almost muffed one in the second half- and Colquitt averaged 44 yards on seven punts, including pinning Houston inside the 20 four times -which could have been six times if our flyers could keep their toes off the goal line stripe.

4. I thought the player of the day for defense was Derrick Johnson. Man, it's so good to have him back on run support. Here's a guy who got blown up on opening day last year, re-habs, and a year later, leads this stellar line backing corps with six tackles and a sack. Houston was his usual disruptive self. He had a sack, ran the QB into a couple of other sacks and forced a fumble that led to Charles' TD. Allen Bailey -who must get some recognition this year- had two sacks and a got the fumble that Houston poked out. Chiefs defense had five sacks on the day. But perhaps the biggest play was a second half fourth down stand on fourth and one to kill a Houston drive deep in KC territory. If Houston takes that field goal, which was a fairly sure thing, they're not scrambling around in the fourth quarter in panic mode. Jaye Howard and Poe both played very well. I think Tamba has clearly lost a step, and was handled one on one most of the day. Might be time to have him back up Dee Ford. Just a thought.

3. Peters had a memorable rookie day. Got a pick that led to KC's first TD and a lead on the road, then got beat twice for TDs. He defended three passes, including a couple that stopped Houston drives, and was not the weakest link in the defensive backfield. That would be Jamell Fleming, who was worked over by a Hoyer -who sucks- and Mallett, who is second string to a guy who sucks. You can bet that The Five Head (with his Michael Jackson glove) and Rodgers will be targeting #30. Fleming should have gotten a PI in the end zone at the end of the first half, but for some reason the ref's were letting everybody play today. KC only had two penalties enforced against them, which is great on the road considering the crowd noise. Houston kept jumping off sides in their home stadium, which is embarrassing, and the sign of a bad team. Guess Romeo is going to have to remind them to eliminate bad football.

2. Good Andy v. Bad Andy: Good Andy: First half play calling was very good. They kept Crennel's defense off balance despite Houston having no fear of the long ball. Routes to Kelce, balance of throw and pass to Charles, power running by Davis, jet sweeps to Thomas, occasional hitch to Maclin, all well done. Most pass routes were quick to keep Alex from getting killed -that's where his 6.7 yards per pass came in. With a 27-9 lead at half, I thought "Surely we'll put this game away in the second half and coast." Then comes... Bad Andy: Team goes ultra conservative in the second half. Several times inside Texan territory, Reid decides to punt for "field position" instead of pressing for a killing TD. One more TD would have meant a four possession lead, which would be difficult for any team -except maybe, oh, say, Indy- to overcome in one half. Instead, the only scoring Reid attempts is a 50 yard FG which the Brazilian Midget chokes on. Instead, KC gives up 11 unanswered second half points, and allows Houston to get within an onside kick of a chance to tie the game. That's much closer than this game needed to be. And, Houston got that close with their second string QB. Houston had 66 more total yards -which was all passing yards because rushing yards were even, six more first downs, and converted more third downs than KC. But the two turnovers killed Houston. Turning the ball over inside your twenty will kill you every time.

1. I'm always excited to win. One thing I wanted to mention in passing. I had a very difficult time reading the game in progress thread on the CP today. I think our server is being overwhelmed again. I suppose that means that the CP is gaining in popularity, but perhaps we need some road construction to ease the congestion? It sucks when you can't read the CP while the game is under way. Maybe if we all kick in $5, Kyle can buy a NSA style super server? At the time of this writing, Five Head is losing to Baltimore at home, and the Bolts are neck and neck with Detroit. If Denver and San Diego could both manage to lose today, that would make Thursday's game much more comfortable. All the pressure would be on Denver if they come in here 0-1. We'll see. Denver's passing game is a lot like our passing game, except refs do not allow you to touch the Five Head under ANY circumstances. So I have a sneaking suspicion the NFL is saving our penalties for Thursday Night. Charles and special teams could be the key in that game. At least we know we won't be starting the year 0-2, and if we play well, we could be starting 2-0. That's a very good thing. Is your glass half empty, or half full? Which ever it is, fill it with something strong. It's gonna be a barn burner Thursday at Arrowhead.

WilliamTheIrish
09-13-2015, 04:35 PM
Go george

Sandy Vagina
09-13-2015, 04:38 PM
meh.. did not enjoy much, but as always, your effort is good.

New World Order
09-13-2015, 04:39 PM
You the man George

Hoover
09-13-2015, 04:42 PM
Alex was great today. I mean stop your bitching people. Our running game was taken away by the Texans D, yet Alex stepped up and delivered. There was not one moment where I was upset with him.

Trivers
09-13-2015, 04:43 PM
Nice writeup.

This reflects the glass half full George that we know and love.

An 18 point lead combined with a Thursday game would change my coaching.....they played out the half.

Trivers
09-13-2015, 04:44 PM
Nice writeup.

This reflects the glass half full George that we know and love.

An 18 point lead combined with a Thursday game would change my coaching.....they played out the half.

big nasty kcnut
09-13-2015, 04:44 PM
Great read thou i think knew the donkeys were watching the game to see anything to plan on and andy covered up his gameplan so he can catch denver napping.

Easy 6
09-13-2015, 04:46 PM
Not finished reading yet, but gotta give a big Keanu Reaves WHOA! to Fisher not playing and that they started Jah Reid already?

Wooow.

Its a damn miracle he only gave up two sacks, I'd say its a fine showing for him today overall.

Still think you're being a bit hard on Smith though, gb... opening day on the road, and the Texans apparently adjusted well at the half.

Bottom line is, he did enough to win on opening day, on the road against one helluva defense/continues reading...

ChiefsCountry
09-13-2015, 04:48 PM
I agree with most of the football takes on this with you George. Solid write up for the game.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-13-2015, 04:48 PM
Ahh yes, football is officially back. The top ten list is here again. I find that over 90% of the time I agree with you spot on in your takes. While I agree with some of what you say today, I am excited for this team to finally shake some of your pessimism out of you. This team is for real. Week 4 we will be back at full strength with our entire roster available to us. Fleming is a short term issue. Peters tackles incredibly well, and looks seasoned rather than like a guy playing his first professional game. Alex is gambling down field, and once he hits his stride with Maclin, this offense is going to be dangerous. Get ready, George. It's going to be a magical year! Thanks as always for the entertainment following a Chiefs game. I'll look forward to reading the first top ten following the Chiefs beating Peyton Manning as a bronco later this week. Enjoy your evening my friend.

Frosty
09-13-2015, 04:50 PM
Alex was great today. I mean stop your bitching people. Our running game was taken away by the Texans D, yet Alex stepped up and delivered. There was not one moment where I was upset with him.

I felt really good about the win. However, the Eeyores and sad sacks on this board are really harshing my mellow. :(

I agree that the server sucks, though.

Buzz
09-13-2015, 04:56 PM
Bad Andy needs to take a page from the Dick Vermiel playbook and keep his foot on the gas.

smith11
09-13-2015, 04:59 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. I woke up early this morning. I never sleep very well the night before the season opener. Here in KC it was a cool clear morning. So around 6:30 I hung out the Chiefs Flag on the front porch, picked up the Sunday Paper in the yard, brewed up some strong black coffee (Maxwell House, no foo foo coffee for the kid) and poured it into my long time favorite ceramic Chiefs mug; the same one I've had game day morning coffee from since the early 1980s. I was expecting a low scoring game. I was half right. This was a game of two halves, showcasing the really good Chiefs who have a chance to do some playoff damage; and the really mediocre Chiefs, who fritter away leads and can't deliver the kill shot. So, depending on if you are a glass half empty or a glass half full person, you can make a case for either side. Since I think this is a borderline playoff team, I'll discuss both sides, but look through this universal prism: Any win is a good win; and any win on the road is a gooder win. And a win on the road for a season opener is a goodest win of all.

9. The stat sheet and the headline in the paper will say "Alex Smith threw for 243 yards with three TDs and no picks." And that is true. Alex played well enough to guide this team to victory, by scoring enough in the first half to put it just.....just....far enough out of reach to hold on in the second half. Both TD passes to Kelce were well thrown. And KC made Houston pay for their mistakes, on a pick and sack-fumble inside their own 20. But Smith was pretty much 2014 Smith. He only averaged 6.7 yards per reception, and KC was 2-12 on third down. Smith rushed nine times for 15 yards, most of those rushes were running for his life from Watt and Clowney. When Smith did throw relatively long, Maclin juggled one pass falling out of bounds -which was an almost completion, and on another occasion in the fourth quarter, Smith flat out over threw Maclin who had a step on coverage. So teams are going to start concentrating on Kelce, who is Smith's security blanket; and not worry much about Maclin being a deep threat until its proven Smith can hit him in coverage and make it stick. Maclin ended with 52 yard on five catches, and had an injury scare. Really wondering whether he'll make it through the year in one piece. At least he played today, which is more than we can say for the guy he replaced. Smith spread the ball to seven different receivers, which is what Reid's offense is all about. Usually that's a good stat when we have that many guys involved in the passing game.

8. Kelce was the offensive star today with six catches -he caught the ball every time it was thrown at him- and 106 yards. Both TDs were things of beauty, but he also had several key blocks helping Charles gain yards. His most clutch catch was with about four minutes left to sustain a fourth quarter drive to kill clock on Houston's comeback effort. Smith checked down to him way short of a first down, and Kelce ducked a tackle by the linebacker in coverage, and had just enough burst to get past the sticks and move the chains. That play, and Maclin recovering the onside kick, were the most important plays in the fourth quarter. Kelce also had an injury scare after taking a tough hit on a reception. When he was pulled out, the offense ground to a halt. His health is also a major concern as the season rolls on.

7. Charles averaged 3.6 yards a carry on 16 carries. That's against arguably one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Charles had several good burst plays, squirting through and falling forward as he usually does, and also looked good catching the ball, with a great second effort on his TD to get inside the pylon. Charles was also money in pass protection, saving Smith's bacon on several plays from blitzes. Well rounded performance by Charles, and I'm glad they got Davis into the mix enough to give Charles a blow now and then. That's going to be critical this year to keep Charles available all through the year.

6. JJ Watt is a monster. He had two sacks -including one after his helmet was ripped off his head- with nine tackles, six of those for a loss. There were a couple plays where Watt went totally unblocked, which is baffling to me. I don't know if that's a blown blocking assignment, or sheer stupidity on the Chiefs part. One play was a Smith naked bootleg, who rolled head on into an un-blocked Watt for a loss. Yikes. Considering our big time, big contract first pick in the NFL draft cornerstone left tackle could only manage to play on one snap in the fourth quarter today, I thought Jah Reid did a decent job on Watt. This is a guy who was cast off as not good enough to even make the Ravens' roster, and after he practices with the team for a couple days, we start him against JJ Watt. He didn't get Alex killed, so that's a very good thing. I also thought Mitch Morse did a great job as a rookie playing his first NFL regular game. Jabba the Wilfork did little today, and Morse was out on screens blocking for Charles on several plays. Stephenson may have dislocated a finger in the fourth quarter, and let's hope that doesn't side line him. He also had a fine game. O-Line only had one penalty that I can think of (when Reid ripped off Watt's helmet) but that was declined by Houston. Houston's defense started winning the line battle in the second half. That plus Andy Reid going ultra conservative again - trying not to lose instead of rendering a kill shot - meant no points in the second half. All in all, O-Line had a plus day.

5. Chiefs won the battle of the specials. Houston's kicker Bullock whiffed on an extra point, which put pressure Houston the rest of the game. It really changed the complexion of the first half, and later Houston was pressed to convert a two pointer to get it back. Our Brazilian Midget hit all his XPTs, although he hit a couple ducks that went through ugly. Santos also missed a 50 yarder that would have given us some extra fourth quarter cushion, but did hit from 48 in the first half. Thomas had 81 yards on five punt returns -although he almost muffed one in the second half- and Colquitt averaged 44 yards on seven punts, including pinning Houston inside the 20 four times -which could have been six times if our flyers could keep their toes off the goal line stripe.

4. I thought the player of the day for defense was Derrick Johnson. Man, it's so good to have him back on run support. Here's a guy who got blown up on opening day last year, re-habs, and a year later, leads this stellar line backing corps with six tackles and a sack. Houston was his usual disruptive self. He had a sack, ran the QB into a couple of other sacks and forced a fumble that led to Charles' TD. Allen Bailey -who must get some recognition this year- had two sacks and a got the fumble that Houston poked out. Chiefs defense had five sacks on the day. But perhaps the biggest play was a second half fourth down stand on fourth and one to kill a Houston drive deep in KC territory. If Houston takes that field goal, which was a fairly sure thing, they're not scrambling around in the fourth quarter in panic mode. Jaye Howard and Poe both played very well. I think Tamba has clearly lost a step, and was handled one on one most of the day. Might be time to have him back up Dee Ford. Just a thought.

3. Peters had a memorable rookie day. Got a pick that led to KC's first TD and a lead on the road, then got beat twice for TDs. He defended three passes, including a couple that stopped Houston drives, and was not the weakest link in the defensive backfield. That would be Jamell Fleming, who was worked over by a Hoyer -who sucks- and Mallett, who is second string to a guy who sucks. You can bet that The Five Head (with his Michael Jackson glove) and Rodgers will be targeting #30. Fleming should have gotten a PI in the end zone at the end of the first half, but for some reason the ref's were letting everybody play today. KC only had two penalties enforced against them, which is great on the road considering the crowd noise. Houston kept jumping off sides in their home stadium, which is embarrassing, and the sign of a bad team. Guess Romeo is going to have to remind them to eliminate bad football.

2. Good Andy v. Bad Andy: Good Andy: First half play calling was very good. They kept Crennel's defense off balance despite Houston having no fear of the long ball. Routes to Kelce, balance of throw and pass to Charles, power running by Davis, jet sweeps to Thomas, occasional hitch to Maclin, all well done. Most pass routes were quick to keep Alex from getting killed -that's where his 6.7 yards per pass came in. With a 27-9 lead at half, I thought "Surely we'll put this game away in the second half and coast." Then comes... Bad Andy: Team goes ultra conservative in the second half. Several times inside Texan territory, Reid decides to punt for "field position" instead of pressing for a killing TD. One more TD would have meant a four possession lead, which would be difficult for any team -except maybe, oh, say, Indy- to overcome in one half. Instead, the only scoring Reid attempts is a 50 yard FG which the Brazilian Midget chokes on. Instead, KC gives up 11 unanswered second half points, and allows Houston to get within an onside kick of a chance to tie the game. That's much closer than this game needed to be. And, Houston got that close with their second string QB. Houston had 66 more total yards -which was all passing yards because rushing yards were even, six more first downs, and converted more third downs than KC. But the two turnovers killed Houston. Turning the ball over inside your twenty will kill you every time.

1. I'm always excited to win. One thing I wanted to mention in passing. I had a very difficult time reading the game in progress thread on the CP today. I think our server is being overwhelmed again. I suppose that means that the CP is gaining in popularity, but perhaps we need some road construction to ease the congestion? It sucks when you can't read the CP while the game is under way. Maybe if we all kick in $5, Kyle can buy a NSA style super server? At the time of this writing, Five Head is losing to Baltimore at home, and the Bolts are neck and neck with Detroit. If Denver and San Diego could both manage to lose today, that would make Thursday's game much more comfortable. All the pressure would be on Denver if they come in here 0-1. We'll see. Denver's passing game is a lot like our passing game, except refs do not allow you to touch the Five Head under ANY circumstances. So I have a sneaking suspicion the NFL is saving our penalties for Thursday Night. Charles and special teams could be the key in that game. At least we know we won't be starting the year 0-2, and if we play well, we could be starting 2-0. That's a very good thing. Is your glass half empty, or half full? Which ever it is, fill it with something strong. It's gonna be a barn burner Thursday at Arrowhead.

need to use a calculator George...smith completed 22 for 243 yds ..that is 11 yds + per reception...if you meant per attempt he was over 7 yds per attempt 33 att divided into 243 yds is just over 7 yds...also they were getting the ball out quick with the oline questions (jah reid in, morse and LDT first time starters)

RobBlake
09-13-2015, 05:00 PM
Alex played a good game... no reason to bitch about his play.. just some tighten ups as it is with every game until playoffs. Watching football is understanding the other team will make plays.. sacks happen.. bad passes happen, alex minimized that with quick decisions.

Otter
09-13-2015, 05:07 PM
Almost total lack of Conley participation was very disappointing and a bit worrisome. Besides that I'm a happy camper overall. </br></br>Thanks George!

milkman
09-13-2015, 05:08 PM
need to use a calculator George...smith completed 22 for 243 yds ..that is 11 yds + per reception...if you meant per attempt he was over 7 yds per attempt 33 att divided into 243 yds is just over 7 yds...also they were getting the ball out quick with the oline questions (jah reid in, morse and LDT first time starters)

When you break it down further, when Andy Reid wasn't playing conservative, play not to lose, football in the first half, Alex Smith was 15-20 for 193, a 9.65 ypa clip, or 12.8 ypc.

Easy 6
09-13-2015, 05:08 PM
Didn't watch the game, so just a guess here... but maybe Andy went conservative in the second half because he could see that Houston had adjusted well to what we were doing and he was trying to protect his QB and the substantial lead?

I dunno, it just always seems harsh to be too hard on an opening day win, particularly on the road... most teams offenses are a bit shaky week 1, if you have a decent lead at the half and by early in the third its apparent that your opponent has kinda figured out what you're up to, why not hunker down and grind it out?

Atleast during a week one road trip.

milkman
09-13-2015, 05:09 PM
Seriously, if Alex Smith can play as well as he did in the first half on a consistent basis, the only thing holding this team back is Andy Reid.

chiefzilla1501
09-13-2015, 05:11 PM
I can live with this kind of Alex Smith performance.

Great point no Good Andy vs. Bad Andy. I still believe he's the biggest reason we pissed away our big lead against Indy in the playoffs and it almost came back to haunt us today too.

If we're constantly challenging Alex Smith to improve, he went 3-11 on 3rd downs although 4 were 10+ yards out. But I'll take it. He looked cool today in the pocket in a game where he wasn't always getting great protection.

Otter
09-13-2015, 05:11 PM
I'd say besides the total lack of Chris Conley being part of the game plan I'm overall a happy camper.

Thanks George!

:toast:

milkman
09-13-2015, 05:12 PM
Didn't watch the game, so just a guess here... but maybe Andy went conservative in the second half because he could see that Houston had adjusted well to what we were doing and he was trying to protect his QB and the substantial lead?

I dunno, it just always seems harsh to be too hard on an opening day win, particularly on the road... most teams offenses are a bit shaky week 1, if you have a decent lead at the half and by early in the third its apparent that your opponent has kinda figured out what you're up to, why not hunker down and grind it out?

Atleast during a week one road trip.

This might have some merit, if Andy didn't actually crawl into that shell in the middle of the second qtr.

chiefzilla1501
09-13-2015, 05:12 PM
Didn't watch the game, so just a guess here... but maybe Andy went conservative in the second half because he could see that Houston had adjusted well to what we were doing and he was trying to protect his QB and the substantial lead?

I dunno, it just always seems harsh to be too hard on an opening day win, particularly on the road... most teams offenses are a bit shaky week 1, if you have a decent lead at the half and by early in the third its apparent that your opponent has kinda figured out what you're up to, why not hunker down and grind it out?

Atleast during a week one road trip.

This isn't the first time Andy's done this. He is a horrible game manager and it's not the last time you'll see frustrating second half playcalling.

Buzz
09-13-2015, 05:14 PM
You would think Reid would have learned his lesson with the conservative play calling in the 2nd half after the playoff loss to the Colts.

RobBlake
09-13-2015, 05:17 PM
still think he was conserving due to broncos game

Prison Bitch
09-13-2015, 05:18 PM
Missed PAT didn't matter since they converted the 2-pt later.

That game was never in doubt so there's no reason to think Fat Andy was too conservative. But I will say his punt from their 36 on 4-7 late (where it, as expected, was a touchback) is dumb and he has to stop doing that.

Easy 6
09-13-2015, 05:20 PM
This might have some merit, if Andy didn't actually crawl into that shell in the middle of the second qtr.

Again, I didn't see the game so I'm willing to be wrong here... but we only had one point less in the second than we did in the first, 13 points sounds pretty good to me for a quarters play.

But yeah, I'll need to go back and watch to see the true ebb and flow of how it went down.

This isn't the first time Andy's done this. He is a horrible game manager and it's not the last time you'll see frustrating second half playcalling.

You're preaching to the choir, Andy has his warts no doubt.

frozenchief
09-13-2015, 05:28 PM
#2 is right on. We need to play to win, not play to not lose. We punted in Houston's territory which resulted in a change of 16 yards difference in field position. We should have gone for it and taken a chance. We should have gone to Maclin more to challenge the deep play. We had several third and longs in the second half and they exposed Smith's weakness: passing for 2 yards short of the first down marker. Alex did not cost us this game. He did well. But the mistakes that Alex made the type of mistakes that kill us against a better skilled team. I could also say the mistakes Andy made are the mistakes that kill us against a better skilled team.

chiefzilla1501
09-13-2015, 05:41 PM
Missed PAT didn't matter since they converted the 2-pt later.

That game was never in doubt so there's no reason to think Fat Andy was too conservative. But I will say his punt from their 36 on 4-7 late (where it, as expected, was a touchback) is dumb and he has to stop doing that.

I'm okay with it. Houston QB situation is a disaster. And Colquitt had an outstanding game today, if only the coverage unit did their job.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 05:43 PM
That's some good juju, George.

And yes, it is great to have that quality MLB support back against the run.

Just one disagreement:

It ain't Smith. It his coach.

Prison Bitch
09-13-2015, 05:44 PM
I'm okay with it. Houston QB situation is a disaster. And Colquitt had an outstanding game today, if only the coverage unit did their job.

But why? Who cares if you do actually down it at the 5. Converting the 4+7 essentially ends the game. It's done, kaput. Think of it like this: what did OBrien want us to to? Obviously: punt.

BossChief
09-13-2015, 06:02 PM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 06:06 PM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

Yeah.....I'd like to believe that.

But I don't believe that.

Bwana
09-13-2015, 06:07 PM
Great read as always George.

milkman
09-13-2015, 06:13 PM
Yeah.....I'd like to believe that.

But I don't believe that.

I have to agree with your diagreement.

thabear04
09-13-2015, 06:14 PM
Great read like always.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 06:15 PM
I have to agree with your diagreement.

Dude.

Reid is gonna' kill us.

And it's very sad. This team could actually do some things.

:shake: :facepalm:

Bob Dole
09-13-2015, 06:17 PM
BTW, KC was 3 for 13 on 3rd down.

InChiefsHell
09-13-2015, 06:18 PM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

We certainly got vanilla as hell in the 2nd half...I really hope you're right, but it just felt like 2014 Chiefs in the 2nd half. I hate that shit.

BUT...it's not like Houston has no defense, especially the front 4. More concerning for me was the fact that Ryan Fucking Mallet made it a game...Come ON MAN!!

DB's were suspect today, especially in the 2nd half. Just ridiculous. As far as the offense, if we thought Houston was tough on D, wait till we see Dungver. We need to put this one away with offense. I feel like our D can handle the Donks lame offense (can't believe I'm saying that, but they looked like total shit today) but our offense against their D? Hmmmm. Thursday should be a damn good game.

Good to read it again, George. You da man!

LETS GO CHIEFS!!

ChiefsCountry
09-13-2015, 06:19 PM
Seriously, if Alex Smith can play as well as he did in the first half on a consistent basis, the only thing holding this team back is Andy Reid.

You ever watch a basketball game where some guy who is an average shooter, just goes off in the first half, then falls back in the second to his normal shooting percentage. I think that was part of today's game. We just kind of slide back to where we normally should be. First half everything was just clicking and going right. Second half things just evened out.

milkman
09-13-2015, 06:20 PM
Dude.

Reid is gonna' kill us.

And it's very sad. This team could actually do some things.

:shake: :facepalm:

Just to be clear, I was agreeing with you.

This wasn't some secret plan to hide things from the Broncos.
This was typical Andy Reid sorryass game management.

dannybcaitlyn
09-13-2015, 06:20 PM
I'd say besides the total lack of Chris Conley being part of the game plan I'm overall a happy camper.

Thanks George!

:toast:

where was Avant? lol

Mr. Laz
09-13-2015, 06:21 PM
1. our running blocking sucks
2. sutton is conservative as fuck
3. Andy Reid is still the same
4. Alex Smith looked pretty good
5. If Mallett starts, we probably lose
6. We didn't win the game as much as Houston lost the game
7. oh look, Sutton only rushed 3 players again
8. If Hali is going to drop into coverage 15 times a game then at least switch to Dee Ford so we have some speed to run with the receiver
9. Santos scares the crap out of me
10. If our smurfs(Wilson,DaT) aren't fast enough to outrun anyone then they don't serve any purpose right now. Use them differently or get someone else in there.

GloryDayz
09-13-2015, 06:22 PM
George is the best poster on this board.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 06:24 PM
Just to be clear, I was agreeing with you.

This wasn't some secret plan to hide things from the Broncos.
This was typical Andy Reid sorryass game management.

I know you were, I was just driving the point home.

milkman
09-13-2015, 06:24 PM
We certainly got vanilla as hell in the 2nd half...I really hope you're right, but it just felt like 2014 Chiefs in the 2nd half. I hate that shit.

BUT...it's not like Houston has no defense, especially the front 4. More concerning for me was the fact that Ryan ****ing Mallet made it a game...Come ON MAN!!

DB's were suspect today, especially in the 2nd half. Just ridiculous. As far as the offense, if we thought Houston was tough on D, wait till we see Dungver. We need to put this one away with offense. I feel like our D can handle the Donks lame offense (can't believe I'm saying that, but they looked like total shit today) but our offense against their D? Hmmmm. Thursday should be a damn good game.

Good to read it again, George. You da man!

LETS GO CHIEFS!!

Unlike this game today, I think we can run Charles up the middle.
The Texans front is much more stout than the Broncos.

Establish the run, then break off some play action.

You ever watch a basketball game where some guy who is an average shooter, just goes off in the first half, then falls back in the second to his normal shooting percentage. I think that was part of today's game. We just kind of slide back to where we normally should be. First half everything was just clicking and going right. Second half things just evened out.

I don't think this was that at all.

Playcalling was fresh in the first half, up until the Chiefs went up 20-6.
It got stale after that.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 06:25 PM
where was Avant? lol

He'll get his 45, brah. Just chillax.

dannybcaitlyn
09-13-2015, 06:26 PM
1. our running blocking sucks
2. sutton is conservative as ****
3. Andy Reid is still the same
4. Alex Smith looked pretty good
5. If Mallett starts, we probably lose
6. We didn't win the game as much as Houston lost the game
7. oh look, Sutton only rushed 3 players again
8. If Hali is going to drop into coverage 15 times a game then at least switch to Dee Ford so we have some speed to run with the receiver
9. Santos scares the crap out of me
10. If our smurfs(Wilson,DaT) aren't fast enough to outrun anyone then they don't serve any purpose right now. Use them differently or get someone else in there.

Agree with Sutton being conservative but DAT had a good game.

Buzz
09-13-2015, 06:34 PM
I think this offense has the ability to score points, so score the dam points, don't hold anything back, go arena ball. Unlike Vermeil we have a defense that can actually stop someone. Good lord, one game in and I'm setting myself up for a kick in the nutz.

Mr. Laz
09-13-2015, 06:35 PM
Agree with Sutton being conservative but DAT had a good game.

I saw him "almost" do several good things.

But since he gets tackled by any random pinky finger that happens to be in the area, he didn't really finish those possible good plays.


Imo we need to get him the ball PAST the LoS so he doesn't have to make it through the wash to make plays. Too easy to bring down.

Same with Albert Wilson.

TigeRRUppeRRcut
09-13-2015, 06:40 PM
Alex was great today. I mean stop your bitching people. Our running game was taken away by the Texans D, yet Alex stepped up and delivered. There was not one moment where I was upset with him.

I second this.

And Alex did not put Maclin in a dangerous situation with that throw, it was a good pass. (The Kelce one tho was different). Not sure what is trying to be proved by calling him the 2014 Smith because Alex hasn't regressed since he was benched by the Niners 2012, he has just been waiting for a half decent roster to roll with. The zip on the ball is the same. The decision making is the same. The talent this year is much, much different.

chiefzilla1501
09-13-2015, 06:45 PM
But why? Who cares if you do actually down it at the 5. Converting the 4+7 essentially ends the game. It's done, kaput. Think of it like this: what did OBrien want us to to? Obviously: punt.

Houston had to score twice, including getting an onsides. I don't mind laying up at that point in the game.

InChiefsHell
09-13-2015, 06:48 PM
I second this.

And Alex did not put Maclin in a dangerous situation with that throw, it was a good pass. (The Kelce one tho was different). Not sure what is trying to be proved by calling him the 2014 Smith because Alex hasn't regressed since he was benched by the Niners 2012, he has just been waiting for a half decent roster to roll with. The zip on the ball is the same. The decision making is the same. The talent this year is much, much different.

Better show up on Thursday then...ALL of them...

WilliamTheIrish
09-13-2015, 06:53 PM
Missed PAT didn't matter since they converted the 2-pt later.

That game was never in doubt so there's no reason to think Fat Andy was too conservative. But I will say his punt from their 36 on 4-7 late (where it, as expected, was a touchback) is dumb and he has to stop doing that.

The biggest of two WTF??? moments in the game.

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 06:56 PM
The biggest of two WTF??? moments in the game.

Don't forget the classic Marty Reidenhiemer 4 and 1 puss-out.

Valiant
09-13-2015, 06:59 PM
I think this offense has the ability to score points, so score the dam points, don't hold anything back, go arena ball. Unlike Vermeil we have a defense that can actually stop someone. Good lord, one game in and I'm setting myself up for a kick in the nutz.

There was lots of good things in the game today.

Alex made some of his best throws I have seen since he came here.

But,

Playcalling was lackluster after the half.
Alex and the offense only scored 10pts without the help of the defense and ST.. The defense set them up the entire first half. They need to work on sustaining drives. They did not go for the jugular..

Claysexual
09-13-2015, 07:03 PM
There was lots of good things in the game today.

Alex made some of his best throws I have seen since he came here.

But,

Playcalling was lackluster after the half.
Alex and the offense only scored 10pts without the help of the defense and ST.. The defense set them up the entire first half. They need to work on sustaining drives. They did not go for the jugular..

I used to call Alex a scurred bitch.

I have now transferred that illustrious title.

Buzz
09-13-2015, 07:04 PM
There was lots of good things in the game today.

Alex made some of his best throws I have seen since he came here.

But,

Playcalling was lackluster after the half.
Alex and the offense only scored 10pts without the help of the defense and ST.. The defense set them up the entire first half. They need to work on sustaining drives. They did not go for the jugular..


that was my point...

Hydrae
09-13-2015, 07:13 PM
Haven't read the rest of the thread yet so forgive me if this has been brought up...

on another occasion in the fourth quarter, Smith flat out over threw Maclin who had a step on coverage.

Have to disagree with you on this one. I was at the game and Maclin slowed down during his route. If he had not done so, that throw would have been perfect and it would have been a touchdown. He hesitated for about a step and a half just as Alex was throwing it.

Now to go read the rest of the thread. Thanks as always for your veiwpoints on the game!

J Diddy
09-13-2015, 07:20 PM
10 things about your 10 things.

I am starting to consider you bitter.

Repeat 9 times.

stevieray
09-13-2015, 07:27 PM
this reads as half empty.

that said, thanks for the write up.

it's the cherry on top of gameday!

Buzz
09-13-2015, 08:08 PM
10 things about your 10 things.

I am starting to consider you bitter.

Repeat 9 times.

I thought he was pretty much spot on, what is your take?

Bugeater
09-13-2015, 08:11 PM
Re: #1

Have you not noticed the thread that's been stickied at the top of the Lounge for the last six months?

KCwolf
09-13-2015, 08:14 PM
Chiefs WIN .... period.

100X better than last years hell hole opener

suzzer99
09-13-2015, 09:11 PM
Teams evolve so much over the season. The only thing that will matter about this game at the end of the season is the win. I will gladly take it.

petegz28
09-13-2015, 10:02 PM
Last year 33% of Houston's points came off of turnovers. We were up 27-9. There was absolutely no reason to be slinging it all over the field against this defense and give them an opportunity to get back in it.

Hoyer was not going to beat us. The defense did play a little too soft at times I thought but nonetheless. it wasn't even a close game until under 1.5 minutes left in the game and Houston with 0 timeouts.

Reid did a great job today of not only protecting our lead but our QB, RB and Oline.

Simply Red
09-13-2015, 10:05 PM
Teams evolve so much over the season. The only thing that will matter about this game at the end of the season is the win. I will gladly take it.

yeah.

flash_80
09-13-2015, 10:37 PM
Last year 33% of Houston's points came off of turnovers. We were up 27-9. There was absolutely no reason to be slinging it all over the field against this defense and give them an opportunity to get back in it.

Hoyer was not going to beat us. The defense did play a little too soft at times I thought but nonetheless. it wasn't even a close game until under 1.5 minutes left in the game and Houston with 0 timeouts.

Reid did a great job today of not only protecting our lead but our QB, RB and Oline.

This. Up by three scores against a struggling, questionable QB and having a defense like KC's and people are mad because they chose to slow it down?

Let's forget about how badly the line was getting manhandled by Houstons D Line... Smith had time for one maybe two reads all game. He played the game to near perfection given the circumstances. Not one bad decision all game, and even had a nicely thrown 40 yard pass to Maclin on the sideline called back because the ball moved a bit on the way down.

Beef Supreme
09-13-2015, 10:43 PM
On one hand, the offensive line kinda sucks. But on the other hand, considering what we trotted out there vs who they were lined up against, they did an admirable job.

Andy is bad about playing too conservative with a lead. Andy is bad at half-time adjustments. Andy is the Sheriff of Mayberry.

Bob Sutton needs to rethink this rushing only three bullshit.

COchief
09-13-2015, 11:00 PM
This smells a lot like someone sticking to their overly negative (and generally terrible) 10 things which they were rightly lambasted for by virtually everyone on this board prior to the season. Stinks like Claynus and Sean Smith in here to me.

I like the home game 10 things considerably more due to the sideline intricacies which us TV fans aren't privy to along with the general Arrowhead experience tidbits. I pretty much consider these to be our own Peter King type articles, some interesting points and fluff, however the football analysis not so much.

Thanks for putting in the effort and please don't be a Claynus regarding that stinker you wrote in August.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-13-2015, 11:04 PM
The second half looks completely different if Maclin doesn't slightly juggle that ball. The long FG attempt was dumb as fuck.

suzzer99
09-13-2015, 11:14 PM
Punting from the 37 was much much dumber.

suzzer99
09-13-2015, 11:37 PM
FFS I just realized my local feed (LA) switched to the stupid Wash/MIA like midway through the 3rd Q. And even though I have DTV you damn well the game would have stayed blacked out. If I wasn't working all day I would have been mega-pissed.

Psyko Tek
09-14-2015, 12:20 AM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

Hey, Congrats on watching your first chiefs game

ANDY ALWAYS DOES THIS

we are a winning he lets them back in
always

smith11
09-14-2015, 01:26 AM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

I think he thought that the Texans offense didn't have the firepower to make up an 18 point difference, and that Texans best way to get back into game would be watt beating reid and forcing a turnover

at least those thoughts were going thru my mind

Danguardace
09-14-2015, 03:45 AM
I am trying to stay positive and say that the scoreline flattered the Texans in the End.

Overall it was a great display in all 3 phases, but I agree about the lack of Kill shot and was frustrated that I had to sweat out an Onside kick at the end.

tonyetony
09-14-2015, 04:06 AM
Thanks George but we may have to rename these threads to "Ten Passive Aggressive Things About Todays Game From a Depressed Point of View".....Keep your head up bro.

Claysexual
09-14-2015, 04:17 AM
Hey, Congrats on watching your first chiefs game

ANDY ALWAYS DOES THIS

we are a winning he lets them back in
always

This.

He becomes Herm.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-14-2015, 05:45 AM
I'm of the opinion that Andy took the foot off the gas because he wants to ambush Denver on Thursday night.

You seriously believe that? That's one of the homerist, homer statements ever homered. I almost Lamblasted a n00b for starting a thread asking that question but refrained. There is no fucking way that with a 3 score lead after losing with a 4 score lead in the playoffs less than 2 years ago Andy started game planning for Denver. Andy did what Andy always does, and that's abandon the game plan and start trying to kill the clock. Luckily it didn't blow up on us this time.

Marcellus
09-14-2015, 06:05 AM
You seriously believe that? That's one of the homerist, homer statements ever homered. I almost Lamblasted a n00b for starting a thread asking that question but refrained. There is no ****ing way that with a 3 score lead after losing with a 4 score lead in the playoffs less than 2 years ago Andy started game planning for Denver. Andy did what Andy always does, and that's abandon the game plan and start trying to kill the clock. Luckily it didn't blow up on us this time.

They took several deep shots in the 2nd half. I don't think they went completely conservative but I do think some terrible plays were called at times.

And some terrible any Reid-esk game management made it look worse.

Chiefnj2
09-14-2015, 06:10 AM
Ambush Denver?

Andy only has one games worth of plays and then he has to recycle everything? After week one our opposition will have KC's complete playbook?

That is such a dumb comment.

Marcellus
09-14-2015, 06:20 AM
Ambush Denver?

Andy only has one games worth of plays and then he has to recycle everything? After week one our opposition will have KC's complete playbook?

That is such a dumb comment.

Aren't you mister cheery pants.

I look at it more like there may be a few plays they really like that they didn't need to use because of the lead and didn't want to put on tape for Denver.

For example that play Kelce scored his 2nd TD on probably wont be as much of a surprise next time they run it.

Its not so much ambushing its keeping every perceived advantage you can for as long as you can.

Sandy Vagina
09-14-2015, 06:23 AM
Punting from the 37 was much much dumber.

absolutely hated that decision. So damn stupid. What did they need? 8 yards?

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 06:26 AM
Thanks George but we may have to rename these threads to "Ten Passive Aggressive Things About Todays Game From a Depressed Point of View".....Keep your head up bro.

Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty. I say hey who pissed in my glass?

Sandy Vagina
09-14-2015, 06:28 AM
Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty. I say hey who pissed in my glass?

C'mon bruh. You can tell us. What happened to you this offseason that wrecked your disposition?

notorious
09-14-2015, 06:28 AM
Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty. I say hey who pissed in my glass?

You have every reason to feel this way.


I still do in a lot of respects.

notorious
09-14-2015, 06:28 AM
C'mon bruh. You can tell us. What happened to you this offseason that wrecked your disposition?

Not this offseason.

History.

BlackHelicopters
09-14-2015, 06:30 AM
Thanks George.

Sandy Vagina
09-14-2015, 06:32 AM
Not this offseason.

History.

I get what you are saying.. where you are. But Sir George was pretty damn cheerful until very recently. Or so I thought... whatever.. it's all whatever, really.

Claysexual
09-14-2015, 06:43 AM
C'mon bruh. You can tell us. What happened to you this offseason that wrecked your disposition?

Reid-Syndrome is setting in.

Side effects include tourette's and depression amongst the fan base.

Mile High Mania
09-14-2015, 06:59 AM
I thought KC looked pretty good, strong defensively and Maclin opens things up for Kelce to be the beast that many here expect him to be. It was against Hoyer and no real rushing attack, but they dominated them and took advantage of the situations presented to them.

I think Thursday night will be a defensive battle with kickers ruling the day.

Denver's OL played horribly and let's not pretend that the Baltimore defense is sub par, they're really good. Manning over threw a few routes that would have been sure TDs. I blame that on the OL and the fact that they didn't get a lot of reps in with Manning and the big receivers this preseason. That part will work itself out.

It was an ugly win, but it was a win and Denver left about 14 points on the field. KC will give Denver all they want and more, and Denver will do the same @ KC. I see a close one, 17-16 Denver.

Chiefnj2
09-14-2015, 07:00 AM
On a national level the Chiefs/Texans game is "JJ Watt had a monster game in a loss to the Chiefs."

Mr. Flopnuts
09-14-2015, 07:00 AM
Reid-Syndrome is setting in.

Side effects include tourette's and depression amongst the fan base.

WHAT DO WE WANT?

A CURE FOR TOURETTE'S!!!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

CUNT!!!

Claysexual
09-14-2015, 07:05 AM
WHAT DO WE WANT?

A CURE FOR TOURETTE'S!!!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

CUNT!!!

ROFL

Ahhhhh....happy Monday.

Chiefnj2
09-14-2015, 07:18 AM
I didn't watch all of the second half. A few questions:

1. Did Sutton continue to drop Hali into coverage? It didn't work very well in the first half.

2. Dee Ford get many snaps?

3. Was Avant targeted at all?

notorious
09-14-2015, 07:21 AM
I didn't watch all of the second half. A few questions:

1. Did Sutton continue to drop Hali into coverage? It didn't work very well in the first half.

2. Dee Ford get many snaps?

3. Was Avant targeted at all?

1. Not as much

2. Yes. He tried his deep pass rush every time

3. No. He was invisible.

Buehler445
09-14-2015, 07:47 AM
C'mon bruh. You can tell us. What happened to you this offseason that wrecked your disposition?

It's a culmination of a lot of history of shitting the bed capped off by the Indy playoff game. He's never been optimistic that we would win anything significant, which is the overall goal here. The slam job he took was in response to the narrative that we've turned some corner and he didn't see it in the pre season. I'm really surprised he got blasted. I can't believe there is that much blind hope on this board. I'm always hopeful they'll win something. Anything. But to blast someone because they don't believe some offseason moves will set this franchise apart from the last 23 we've put on the field was surprising.

From my perspective, Squirmin Herman killed football for me. I wasn't around for the 80s and up to that point in my fandom KC had never been a joke until ol' Squirm. Pioli pissed and shit on the grave of football and made goddamn sure this franchise was dragged down as far as it could be. I then had a inkling of hope Reid would do something here. Something different than losing one super bowl in 15 years. I had hope we would win a playoff game for the first time in 20 years. Then we build a 4 TD lead in the 3rd quarter. 4. 28 fucking points. Then Chiefs happened. So until we can break the voodoo hex that we have going, I don't see any reason to expect this team will do anything. Sure, I'll be up for games and I will definitely enjoy good football and elite players, but to expect us to be a legit contender I don't see it.

I thought KC looked pretty good, strong defensively and Maclin opens things up for Kelce to be the beast that many here expect him to be. It was against Hoyer and no real rushing attack, but they dominated them and took advantage of the situations presented to them.

I think Thursday night will be a defensive battle with kickers ruling the day.

Denver's OL played horribly and let's not pretend that the Baltimore defense is sub par, they're really good. Manning over threw a few routes that would have been sure TDs. I blame that on the OL and the fact that they didn't get a lot of reps in with Manning and the big receivers this preseason. That part will work itself out.

It was an ugly win, but it was a win and Denver left about 14 points on the field. KC will give Denver all they want and more, and Denver will do the same @ KC. I see a close one, 17-16 Denver.

Can we borrow a kicker?

notorious
09-14-2015, 07:49 AM
(quietly nods in agreement)

Sandy Vagina
09-14-2015, 08:00 AM
It's a culmination of a lot of history of shitting the bed capped off by the Indy playoff game. He's never been optimistic that we would win anything significant, which is the overall goal here. The slam job he took was in response to the narrative that we've turned some corner and he didn't see it in the pre season. I'm really surprised he got blasted. I can't believe there is that much blind hope on this board. I'm always hopeful they'll win something. Anything. But to blast someone because they don't believe some offseason moves will set this franchise apart from the last 23 we've put on the field was surprising.


Okay cool. Thanks for the info. I sure didn't blast George, but did find myself disappointed with the mild pessimism... but it's all good. No one gives a shit what I think anyway, and that's all good too! :thumb:

Buehler445
09-14-2015, 08:04 AM
Okay cool. Thanks for the info. I sure didn't blast George, but did find myself disappointed with the mild pessimism... but it's all good. No one gives a shit what I think anyway, and that's all good too! :thumb:

George has always been clear about his position in the endgame. He's always been upfront about the team can't do "X" if they want to win in the playoffs, they have no shot to get there because they can't do "Y" or whatever, but that's not to say he doesn't talk about fun things or things that he gets enjoyment from on game day. People may see that as a rosier perspective, but from my interpretation of his football talk, he hasn't changed his position as far as I can tell.

loochy
09-14-2015, 08:05 AM
Some people are glass half full, some are glass half empty.

And some people are "hey, they are both the same damn thing."

I think that is where you fall. You aren't Clay/Sweet Daddy Hate, but you aren't a blind homer either.

Three7s
09-14-2015, 08:22 AM
1. Not as much

2. Yes. He tried his deep pass rush every time

3. No. He was invisible.
I really can't see Avant as a big part of the game-plan for most of the season. He's useless.

notorious
09-14-2015, 08:23 AM
I really can't see Avant as a big part of the game-plan for most of the season. He's useless.

Pretty much.

Who knows, he might catch a crucial 3rd down because he can find the soft part of the zone.

Sandy Vagina
09-14-2015, 08:32 AM
I really can't see Avant as a big part of the game-plan for most of the season. He's useless.

Avant will get a few critical catches. He did get out there with Morse on a good 1st Q block for JC on a screen.

Bearcat
09-14-2015, 08:33 AM
Black and White Planet, if it's not glowing optimism, it must be hate. Shame on anyone for not going from "borderline playoff team" to Super Bowl contender after one game. It's like they weren't born yesterday or something.

Red Dawg
09-14-2015, 08:34 AM
They took several deep shots in the 2nd half. I don't think they went completely conservative but I do think some terrible plays were called at times.

And some terrible any Reid-esk game management made it look worse.

This is why I hate taking deep shots. You take them when you need to, not when you have a large lead. They are low percentage with Alex and our lack of dominate WR that can go get them. Maclin is not some super stud that will win those battles. Alex needs to make the read and move the chains.

That is it.

Bearcat
09-14-2015, 08:44 AM
This is why I hate taking deep shots. You take them when you need to, not when you have a large lead. They are low percentage with Alex and our lack of dominate WR that can go get them. Maclin is not some super stud that will win those battles. Alex needs to make the read and move the chains.

That is it.

I was encouraged by the shots downfield, hopefully it continues... it obviously doesn't need to happen every drive, but there seemed to be some trust there and not expecting receivers to be wide open every time. Maclin just about had one that was a nice throw and was overthrown by just a bit on the other (someone said he slowed down some though).

notorious
09-14-2015, 08:49 AM
The Texans defense was keying on Jamaal.

We had to back them off with a few deep shots. Alex will start connecting with Maclin on them and it will open up a lot of options.

stumppy
09-14-2015, 09:41 AM
In the 2cnd half the offense looked like two ducks trying to fuck a football half the time.

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 10:23 AM
C'mon bruh. You can tell us. What happened to you this offseason that wrecked your disposition?

"Here Sandy Cheeks. I'll hold this football, and you come running up and kick it, OK?
Sincerely,
Yepremian, Freeman, Clayton, Kelly, Butts, Thurman, Marino, Elway, Harbaugh, Manning, Ray Ray & Luck."

loochy
09-14-2015, 10:27 AM
"Here Sandy Cheeks. I'll hold this football, and you come running up and kick it, OK?
Sincerely,
Yepremian, Freeman, Clayton, Kelly, Butts, Thurman, Marino, Elway, Harbaugh, Manning, Ray Ray & Luck."

LMAO @ Marion Butts

bevischief
09-14-2015, 10:38 AM
Nice.

Frosty
09-14-2015, 10:49 AM
My TV feed switched before Mallett came in. Texans fans are positive that if he had come in earlier, the Texans would have won (that and the refs screwed them bad). I assume that since the Chiefs were up by 18 with about 7 minutes left, that the defense was in a prevent but they (the fans) claim that wasn't the case.

Did Mallett impress or were the Chiefs simply coasting on defense?

Saccopoo
09-14-2015, 10:54 AM
My TV feed switched before Mallett came in. Texans fans are positive that if he had come in earlier, the Texans would have won (that and the refs screwed them bad). I assume that since the Chiefs were up by 18 with about 7 minutes left, that the defense was in a prevent but they (the fans) claim that wasn't the case.

Did Mallett impress or were the Chiefs simply coasting on defense?

Mallett was the guy that couldn't beat out Hoyer in an open competition this summer for the starting QB job.

Mallett was the guy that came in that the Chiefs weren't expecting, didn't game plan for, who had zero pressure on him to do anything other than through some hard balls that were on target. Sometimes.

No, Mallett wasn't winning that game for the Texans. JJ Watt made an effort to win that game for the Texans, but they are in a world of hurt with either Hoyer or Mallett. Neither are very good.

Frosty
09-14-2015, 10:57 AM
Mallett was the guy that couldn't beat out Hoyer in an open competition this summer for the starting QB job.

Mallett was the guy that came in that the Chiefs weren't expecting, didn't game plan for, who had zero pressure on him to do anything other than through some hard balls that were on target. Sometimes.

No, Mallett wasn't winning that game for the Texans. JJ Watt made an effort to win that game for the Texans, but they are in a world of hurt with either Hoyer or Mallett. Neither are very good.

I kind of figured that was the case. The Texans fans were making it sound like Mallett was the second coming of Joe Montana and simply ran out of time before completing the comeback.

DaFace
09-14-2015, 11:00 AM
I kind of figured that was the case. The Texans fans were making it sound like Mallett was the second coming of Joe Montana and simply ran out of time before completing the comeback.

For all intents and purposes, the Chiefs were in prevent mode the entire second half. Not a true "prevent defense" as you might think of it, but the play calling on both sides was pretty vanilla the whole time. Mallet definitely showed a lot on that drive, but it was mostly because the D was giving up a lot of the underneath stuff.

Would he have turned the ball over twice in their own red zone? Who knows. But there's certainly not a clear indicator that the game would have been dramatically different with Mallet in there.

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 11:04 AM
Hoyer is a penis headed man. He's basically Matt Casshole with slightly better field vision. Did the Texans get screwed on a PI call in the end zone right before the half? Yeah. Yeah, they did. They also were stupid and went for it on 4th and 1 when they could have had a field goal in the third quarter. And they had unforced offensive penalties, like jumping offsides in their own damn building. And they were missing Foster, their best running back.

But we were missing our guy who was the very first pick in the draft, who surely would have stoned JJ Watt all day long had he not had a debilitating ankle injury. (I just took my Prozac, thanks....)

One other thing I forgot to mention on time management. In the fourth quarter, Smith cuts loose a bomb for Maclin who a) either slows down on the route or b) is over thrown by Smith. Either way, real long incompletion. Then, the team can't get re-huddled and get a play called, so KC has to take a time out. They call a play, and on that play KC gets penalized for holding. Then (if memory serves) they throw a very safe underneath pass, and end up punting. So. not only do we fail on the long pass attempt, but are so disorganized following its call that we have to burn a timeout, that leads to a play in which we're penalized, which leads to a ultra conservative play, which leads to a punt. Second half in a nutshell.

Saccopoo
09-14-2015, 11:06 AM
Hoyer is a penis headed man. He's basically Matt Casshole with slightly better field vision. Did the Texans get screwed on a PI call in the end zone right before the half? Yeah. Yeah, they did. They also were stupid and went for it on 4th and 1 when they could have had a field goal in the third quarter. And they had unforced offensive penalties, like jumping offsides in their own damn building. And they were missing Foster, their best running back.

But we were missing our guy who was the very first pick in the draft, who surely would have stoned JJ Watt all day long had he not had a debilitating ankle injury. (I just took my Prozac, thanks....)

One other thing I forgot to mention on time management. In the fourth quarter, Smith cuts loose a bomb for Maclin who a) either slows down on the route or b) is over thrown by Smith. Either way, real long incompletion. Then, the team can't get re-huddled and get a play called, so KC has to take a time out. They call a play, and on that play KC gets penalized for holding. Then (if memory serves) they throw a very safe underneath pass, and end up punting. So. not only do we fail on the long pass attempt, but are so disorganized following its call that we have to burn a timeout, that leads to a play in which we're penalized, which leads to a ultra conservative play, which leads to a punt. Second half in a nutshell.

I forget...did we win?

loochy
09-14-2015, 11:07 AM
I forget...did we win?

No.

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 11:08 AM
I forget...did we win?

Yeah, we fell on an on-side kick with about a minute left to hold em off...

Discuss Thrower
09-14-2015, 11:10 AM
Ad hominem for days.

Saleenman607
09-14-2015, 11:14 AM
Excellent read......

I'm saving my opinion till game 4, ( not that anyone gives a $hit ) but it sure seems like the SOS.

Saccopoo
09-14-2015, 11:16 AM
Yeah, we fell on an on-side kick with about a minute left to hold em off...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WsNIsxNswzY/VJHy8k2kbWI/AAAAAAAAAk4/Sx2Az5i_8E0/s1600/homer-clones_3195972_GIFSoup.com.gif

KChiefs1
09-14-2015, 11:27 AM
Great as always George.

Pablo
09-14-2015, 11:29 AM
That first half was so, so fucking fun.

Second half, meh. Not so awesome.

Good read.

alpha_omega
09-14-2015, 11:45 AM
The season is back and so are "Ten Things"...hallelujah.

stumppy
09-14-2015, 11:54 AM
I recorded the game yesterday. I think I'm going to erase the 2cnd half and replace it with a copy of the first half. I'll let everyone know how good the team looks after that.

Urc Burry
09-14-2015, 11:57 AM
Anyone catch Gaines barfing in the first? I can't figure out how to embed, but here it is

https://vine.co/v/eFDPpmaOLJ7

Hammock Parties
09-14-2015, 12:03 PM
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4056868/pukey.0.gif

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 12:06 PM
Hey, stop puking all over my Ten Things. It's already got nine pages of shit smeared all over it...

loochy
09-14-2015, 12:06 PM
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4056868/pukey.0.gif

marshall faulk did it better

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 12:06 PM
Hey, no matter what happens this year, at least we're not Rams fans....

Buehler445
09-14-2015, 12:07 PM
Anyone catch Gaines barfing in the first? I can't figure out how to embed, but here it is

https://vine.co/v/eFDPpmaOLJ7

Christ. Good thing it was a run play

Reerun_KC
09-14-2015, 12:07 PM
I recorded the game yesterday. I think I'm going to erase the 2cnd half and replace it with a copy of the first half. I'll let everyone know how good the team looks after that.

Watched 1st half, deleted second half...

Nice to see the D create turnovers and the O score TD's on the short field instead of FG's.

Not nice to see the D get gashed at times for fucking chunk after chuncks of yards. And then Reid going full Reid in the 2nd half...

Frosty
09-14-2015, 12:08 PM
I'm not trying to go full on homer here, but I feel that this is the kind of game the Chiefs would have lost in the past. Think about how awful they looked in the first game last season. I can understand the let down with them coasting through the second half (I too was having the Colts playoff game flashing through by brain) but they looked really sharp while building the big lead.

Before the game, most people were talking about how tough this game was going to be and how Watt and VW were going to wreck the Chiefs' terrible o-line. Instead they won pretty handily (garbage time points notwithstanding). I think there is cause for a little bit of optimism that this is going to be a pretty decent team.

Frosty
09-14-2015, 12:11 PM
marshall faulk did it better

Back in the 90's, a Broncos d-lineman (Shane something - I don't remember) puked all over the center's hand and the ball before the snap. I think it was against the Chiefs but can't remember for sure.

notorious
09-14-2015, 12:15 PM
Wasn't it Bosworth that would eat a huge breakfast and puke in the face of the first person he tackled?

stumppy
09-14-2015, 12:29 PM
I recorded the game yesterday. I think I'm going to erase the 2cnd half and replace it with a copy of the first half. I'll let everyone know how good the team looks after that.

I'm happy to report back we scored 54 points

Mr. Flopnuts
09-14-2015, 12:32 PM
Hey, stop puking all over my Ten Things. It's already got nine pages of shit smeared all over it...

ROFL

I'm not trying to go full on homer here, but I feel that this is the kind of game the Chiefs would have lost in the past. Think about how awful they looked in the first game last season. I can understand the let down with them coasting through the second half (I too was having the Colts playoff game flashing through by brain) but they looked really sharp while building the big lead.

Before the game, most people were talking about how tough this game was going to be and how Watt and VW were going to wreck the Chiefs' terrible o-line. Instead they won pretty handily (garbage time points notwithstanding). I think there is cause for a little bit of optimism that this is going to be a pretty decent team.

My thoughts exactly.

ChiefsCountry
09-14-2015, 12:36 PM
Back in the 90's, a Broncos d-lineman (Shane something - I don't remember) puked all over the center's hand and the ball before the snap. I think it was against the Chiefs but can't remember for sure.

http://images1.westword.com/imager/shane-dronett-the-late-denver-bronco-is-t/u/original/6526059/shane.dronett.jpg

Frosty
09-14-2015, 12:37 PM
http://images1.westword.com/imager/shane-dronett-the-late-denver-bronco-is-t/u/original/6526059/shane.dronett.jpg

Yeah, that's it. Do you remember the puking incident? They showed it on replays (too) many times.

ChiefsCountry
09-14-2015, 12:50 PM
Yeah, that's it. Do you remember the puking incident? They showed it on replays (too) many times.

No I don't. I just remember the player.

jimidollar
09-14-2015, 12:58 PM
I don't have a problem with Alex taking a couple of long shots down the field. However, I do have a problem with the intended receiver being Maclin. Send someone else. We don't need Maclin being injured on a play that has low percentage of success.

Bearcat
09-14-2015, 01:23 PM
I'm not trying to go full on homer here, but I feel that this is the kind of game the Chiefs would have lost in the past. Think about how awful they looked in the first game last season. I can understand the let down with them coasting through the second half (I too was having the Colts playoff game flashing through by brain) but they looked really sharp while building the big lead.

Before the game, most people were talking about how tough this game was going to be and how Watt and VW were going to wreck the Chiefs' terrible o-line. Instead they won pretty handily (garbage time points notwithstanding). I think there is cause for a little bit of optimism that this is going to be a pretty decent team.

It's hard to take anything away from one game, especially in the first week of the season when people are just guessing how good teams and opponents will be... it's not like the Colts or Saints should be worrying or the Patriots needed to worry after getting blasted at Arrowhead last season. Just like any games or stretch of games, there are points of encouragement and points of concern, and you hope the former continues and the latter is improved/fixed.

I think it's perfectly stated with glass half full/half empty... no one is declaring Super Bowl contender or 2012, basically a nod to the win and moving onto the next test.

Bearcat
09-14-2015, 01:25 PM
I don't have a problem with Alex taking a couple of long shots down the field. However, I do have a problem with the intended receiver being Maclin. Send someone else. We don't need Maclin being injured on a play that has low percentage of success.

Uh, you don't buy a fast car and then only drive on the backroads to church on Sundays.

Frosty
09-14-2015, 01:33 PM
It's hard to take anything away from one game, especially in the first week of the season when people are just guessing how good teams and opponents will be... it's not like the Colts or Saints should be worrying or the Patriots needed to worry after getting blasted at Arrowhead last season. Just like any games or stretch of games, there are points of encouragement and points of concern, and you hope the former continues and the latter is improved/fixed.

I think it's perfectly stated with glass half full/half empty... no one is declaring Super Bowl contender or 2012, basically a nod to the win and moving onto the next test.

I don't remember anyone saying "Superbowl, Baby!" but ok. The thing is that this isn't one game. It's year three of a gradual change and it looks like the pieces are there to be a solid team (note - I didn't say win a Superbowl). I get it - "Show Me" and all that. However, the unrelenting negativity gets a little hard to take after a while. Being a die hard anti-homer is just as annoying as the homers. A little objectivity would be nice on occasion.

By the way, the Colts and the Saints should be worried. Their defenses were bad last year, they were bad in the preseason and they were bad in the first game.

Bearcat
09-14-2015, 02:05 PM
I don't remember anyone saying "Superbowl, Baby!" but ok. The thing is that this isn't one game. It's year three of a gradual change and it looks like the pieces are there to be a solid team (note - I didn't say win a Superbowl). I get it - "Show Me" and all that. However, the unrelenting negativity gets a little hard to take after a while. Being a die hard anti-homer is just as annoying as the homers. A little objectivity would be nice on occasion.

By the way, the Colts and the Saints should be worried. Their defenses were bad last year, they were bad in the preseason and they were bad in the first game.

That was my point, no one is on one extreme or the other... no one is predicting SB, but I don't see any "unrelenting negativity" either, except Clay, but he doesn't count. I think the OP is objective.

As much as I used to hate people saying "some people will never be happy," (not that you said it) especially when talking about a team that hasn't won a playoff game since I was 13, there's mounting evidence that some will always be miserable, just read a Royals thread these days (or even before their losing streak)... but, there are plenty of Royals fans (me included) that are in a constant state of "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" For over a year, they've demanded fans' attention... you'll see plenty of happy fans once the Chiefs actually do that, beyond what they've done for 2 decades.

I completely agree with your thought on optimism when it comes to the Royals, but not the Chiefs, for one reason.... actual results.

That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a win for what it's worth, but I'm also not going to say it means anything, because well, that's not how sports work.

scho63
09-14-2015, 02:43 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. Any win is a good win; and any win on the road is a gooder win. And a win on the road for a season opener is a goodest win of all.
No doubt about it.

8. Kelce was the offensive star today with six catches -he caught the ball every time it was thrown at him- and 106 yards.
He is going to be something real special if he stays healthy and plays for us for the next 6-7 years. He can go up and get a ball just like Tony G, has more speed, excellent blocker, and appears to have great hands, something that took Tony G a few years to improve on. He is my favorite player to watch over the next few years.

6. All in all, O-Line had a plus day.
All things considered, I think the O-Line had a hell of a day. Sure they could have opened up a few more holes for the run but what they were tasked with on the road against the Texans defensive front was no easy job.

5. Chiefs won the battle of the specials.
I expect this every week. Cairo had all touchbacks except I think one late in the game. He was a little shaky on a couple of XP's.

3. Peters had a memorable rookie day.
I was impressed and no DB ever has a perfect day. He got beat on a great pass and catch but I was really imrepssed by his tackling skills. I don't think anyone escaped his grasps.

2. Good Andy v. Bad Andy: Good Andy: Instead, the only scoring Reid attempts is a 50 yard FG which the Brazilian Midget chokes on.
I had a bad feeling after he missed that, just like when Alex Smith fumbled against the Colt's in the playoff game and the momentum shifted. I'm glad it didn't go that bad.

1. I'm always excited to win.
I was elated, then excited, then cautious, then nervous, then scared, then relived. Just the way it always is with a Chief's victory

Thanks George and I'm sure you will be having one hell of a Thursday Night at the home opener.

GO CHIEFS!!!

jimidollar
09-14-2015, 03:08 PM
Uh, you don't buy a fast car and then only drive on the backroads to church on Sundays.

Uh, you shouldn't wreck your fast car because then you'll be forced to walk to church on Sunday getting your ass kicked along the way.

Claysexual
09-14-2015, 04:46 PM
This is why I hate taking deep shots. You take them when you need to, not when you have a large lead. They are low percentage with Alex and our lack of dominate WR that can go get them. Maclin is not some super stud that will win those battles. Alex needs to make the read and move the chains.

That is it.

Horse fucking shit. You mix your play book up, and you DO the unexpected. More attempts and a few successes will start keeping defenders honest.

Screening to the left and right all day will get your ass kicked, and it's not about some arbitrary distance which the ball must travel.

Hey Andy, there's thing called a slant. There's also this gizmo known as a crossing route.

Give it a fucking whirl, sometime?

gblowfish
09-14-2015, 09:42 PM
God knows our DBs have never figured out how to stop a slant or a crossing route...

Claysexual
09-15-2015, 03:28 AM
God knows our DBs have never figured out how to stop a slant or a crossing route...

Ironically, our offense has never learned how to execute either of those.

Easy 6
09-15-2015, 05:18 AM
Hey, no matter what happens this year, at least we're not Rams fans....

LMAO

Wallcrawler
09-15-2015, 07:10 AM
Andy was killing me on the drive that should have depleted the Texans timeouts. Just under 3 minutes to go, you have the football and they need TWO drives to tie. Yet.....2nd down Andy calls a pass that fails and stops the fucking clock for the opponent. This is how you give games away. YOU MUST MAKE THEM BURN THE TIME OUTS YOU DUMB FUCK!!! It completely changes how they can call offense and the clock keeps running. Against quality teams that is a Reid induced loss simply due to a lack of understanding a very very simple concept of the game. He got away with it but letting a 27 to 9 contest turn into an actual threat to lose is reprehensible.

gblowfish
09-15-2015, 09:54 AM
I went back and looked at that sequence in the 4th quarter, where you have to question Andy Reid's game management.

Chiefs are 1st and 10 on the Texans 44 yard line.
1st down: Smith scrambles on a busted play, rushes for 1 yard.
2nd and 9 on Texans 43 yard line.
Throw the bomb to Maclin, Smith over throws him on the 3 yard line.
3rd and 9 on the Texans 43 yard line.
Play doesn't get sent in from the sidelines until 14 secs on the play clock.
Chiefs try to get the play off, Andy Reid calls time out with 1 sec before clock expires.
Smith goes to the side line and calls a play.
3rd and 9 from the Texan 43 yard line. Pass play, but Jah Reid has to tackle JJ Watt to keep him from sacking Smith. 10 yard holding penalty.
3rd and 19 from the Chiefs 47 yard line.
Smith throws a little check off pass to Wilson over the middle that makes six yards on 3rd and 19. Ball is on the Texans 47 yard line, 4th and 13.
Colquitt punts, ball fielded at the Texans 14.

So basically in that series, we call four plays, lose a total of four yards, burn a time out, and only chew up about one minute off the clock, trying to bleed time to make a Houston comeback difficult. Not good. If you're going to lose four yards on four plays, just run the ball up the middle and burn two minutes off the clock.

Discuss Thrower
09-15-2015, 10:11 AM
Reid needs to get creative in the four minute offense.

Fuck it. Run an unbalanced line with a triple option of Smith, Charles and Thomas with Sherman and Kelce being the only other two eligible receivers.

Wallcrawler
09-15-2015, 03:11 PM
Reid needs to surrender playcalling duties entirely in late half and late 4th quarter. Especially in instances where all we have to do is burn the fucking clock.

How hard is it to simply hand the ball to Jamaal late in the game up 2 scores?

Clock moves or they burn a TO. Its win/win even if you gain no yards.

Andy Reid is legitimately fucking retarded.

Reerun_KC
09-15-2015, 03:24 PM
Reid needs to surrender playcalling duties entirely in late half and late 4th quarter. Especially in instances where all we have to do is burn the ****ing clock.

How hard is it to simply hand the ball to Jamaal late in the game up 2 scores?

Clock moves or they burn a TO. Its win/win even if you gain no yards.

Andy Reid is legitimately ****ing retarded.

Its maddening to say the least... a 7 year old playing Madden can manage the clock better than Reid to end a game...

ChiefsCountry
09-15-2015, 03:30 PM
What about our supposedly "smart" QB why can't he audible out of the crap.

Hammock Parties
09-15-2015, 03:54 PM
What about our supposedly "smart" QB why can't he audible out of the crap.

Cease this brazen trolling. The Chiefs are 1-0 and negative posts will not be tolerated on THIS forum.

Three7s
09-15-2015, 03:56 PM
Its maddening to say the least... a 7 year old playing Madden can manage the clock better than Reid to end a game...
I think playing Madden is a great way to learn clock management!

Halfcan
09-15-2015, 04:00 PM
I went back and looked at that sequence in the 4th quarter, where you have to question Andy Reid's game management.

Chiefs are 1st and 10 on the Texans 44 yard line.
1st down: Smith scrambles on a busted play, rushes for 1 yard.
2nd and 9 on Texans 43 yard line.
Throw the bomb to Maclin, Smith over throws him on the 3 yard line.
3rd and 9 on the Texans 43 yard line.
Play doesn't get sent in from the sidelines until 14 secs on the play clock.
Chiefs try to get the play off, Andy Reid calls time out with 1 sec before clock expires.
Smith goes to the side line and calls a play.
3rd and 9 from the Texan 43 yard line. Pass play, but Jah Reid has to tackle JJ Watt to keep him from sacking Smith. 10 yard holding penalty.
3rd and 19 from the Chiefs 47 yard line.
Smith throws a little check off pass to Wilson over the middle that makes six yards on 3rd and 19. Ball is on the Texans 47 yard line, 4th and 13.
Colquitt punts, ball fielded at the Texans 14.

So basically in that series, we call four plays, lose a total of four yards, burn a time out, and only chew up about one minute off the clock, trying to bleed time to make a Houston comeback difficult. Not good. If you're going to lose four yards on four plays, just run the ball up the middle and burn two minutes off the clock.

:clap: This- that drive was one of the dumbest I have seen. Andy seems scared to run the ball even when it will help the team win.

Bearcat
09-15-2015, 05:28 PM
Cease this brazen trolling. The Chiefs are 1-0 and negative posts will not be tolerated on THIS forum.

Just post a filter evading pic and get it over with.

Brock
09-15-2015, 05:57 PM
What about our supposedly "smart" QB why can't he audible out of the crap.

You would think he knows the play book well enough. One thing that frustrates me is in those type situations a vet qb should just say "fuck you guys" and call a play. When things get sticky you know reid is going to freeze up, so just call a damn play and go. I've seen this team come out of timeouts in a tight clock situation and they only had one play called. Then everybody stood around and watched 15 seconds burn.

suzzer99
09-16-2015, 01:48 AM
Its maddening to say the least... a 7 year old playing Madden can manage the clock better than Reid to end a game...

The sad thing is a 12-year-old Madden wiz can manage the clock late better than most coaches in the league.

philfree
09-16-2015, 08:11 AM
I went back and looked at that sequence in the 4th quarter, where you have to question Andy Reid's game management.

Chiefs are 1st and 10 on the Texans 44 yard line.
1st down: Smith scrambles on a busted play, rushes for 1 yard.
2nd and 9 on Texans 43 yard line.
Throw the bomb to Maclin, Smith over throws him on the 3 yard line.
3rd and 9 on the Texans 43 yard line.
Play doesn't get sent in from the sidelines until 14 secs on the play clock.
Chiefs try to get the play off, Andy Reid calls time out with 1 sec before clock expires.
Smith goes to the side line and calls a play.
3rd and 9 from the Texan 43 yard line. Pass play, but Jah Reid has to tackle JJ Watt to keep him from sacking Smith. 10 yard holding penalty.
3rd and 19 from the Chiefs 47 yard line.
Smith throws a little check off pass to Wilson over the middle that makes six yards on 3rd and 19. Ball is on the Texans 47 yard line, 4th and 13.
Colquitt punts, ball fielded at the Texans 14.

So basically in that series, we call four plays, lose a total of four yards, burn a time out, and only chew up about one minute off the clock, trying to bleed time to make a Houston comeback difficult. Not good. If you're going to lose four yards on four plays, just run the ball up the middle and burn two minutes off the clock.

Yeah apparently we weren't just trying to run the clock out. We went for the dagger and missed. If we hit the pass to Maclin there isn't even a conversation about any of this. Andy's not perfect but I've seen a lot of "go for the throat" talk on this board for years but when we try to do so it's wrong.

milkman
09-16-2015, 08:20 AM
Yeah apparently we weren't just trying to run the clock out. We went for the dagger and missed. If we hit the pass to Maclin there isn't even a conversation about any of this. Andy's not perfect but I've seen a lot of "go for the throat" talk on this board for years but when we try to do so it's wrong.

The 2 deep throws to Maclin were the only 2 plays that were not conservative after the middle of the second qrtr.

They weren't wrong for attempting those.

They were wrong because they were the only "attack" plays from about the 6 minute mark in the second qrtr.

Bob Dole
09-16-2015, 08:42 AM
The 2 deep throws to Maclin were the only 2 plays that were not conservative after the middle of the second qrtr.

They weren't wrong for attempting those.

They were wrong because they were the only "attack" plays from about the 6 minute mark in the second qrtr.

You realize Andy mentioned getting better in the 2nd half in his post game locker room talk?

milkman
09-16-2015, 08:44 AM
You realize Andy mentioned getting better in the 2nd half in his post game locker room talk?

You realize that is the same shit he has spewed for 16 years?

Bob Dole
09-16-2015, 08:53 AM
You realize that is the same shit he has spewed for 16 years?

No. Bob Dole had no reason to pay any attention to Andy 16 years ago.

O.city
09-16-2015, 09:01 AM
Looked like they got up 27 to 6, figured the Texans couldn't score 22 points without some help from the chiefs and coasted.

Not a fan of that, but that's what looked to happen

CoMoChief
09-16-2015, 09:11 AM
Reid rarely understands that the clock is your friend sometimes.

philfree
09-16-2015, 09:15 AM
The 2 deep throws to Maclin were the only 2 plays that were not conservative after the middle of the second qrtr.

They weren't wrong for attempting those.

They were wrong because they were the only "attack" plays from about the 6 minute mark in the second qrtr.

So we sucked them in and then tried to go over the top. Sounds like a good plan except we have to execute. Oh well we're 1-0 and moving on.

BossChief
09-16-2015, 09:19 AM
Better not coast if we get a lead against Denver tomorrow night.

gblowfish
09-16-2015, 09:23 AM
Yeah apparently we weren't just trying to run the clock out. We went for the dagger and missed. If we hit the pass to Maclin there isn't even a conversation about any of this. Andy's not perfect but I've seen a lot of "go for the throat" talk on this board for years but when we try to do so it's wrong.

It doesn't bother me that they threw long and missed. It does bother me that they were so discombobulated after the incompletion that they couldn't get the next play called in time, and had to burn a time out. Then, when taking the time out to script a play to keep the chains moving, the next play got blown up by JJ Watt (he was held), then a pass route underneath, then a punt. They lost four yards, just enough field position to have to punt, and burned a timeout for no good reason, and certainly to no benefit.

philfree
09-16-2015, 09:29 AM
It doesn't bother me that they threw long and missed. It does bother me that they were so discombobulated after the incompletion that they couldn't get the next play called in time, and had to burn a time out. Then, when taking the time out to script a play to keep the chains moving, the next play got blown up by JJ Watt (he was held), then a pass route underneath, then a punt. They lost four yards, just enough field position to have to punt, and burned a timeout for no good reason, and certainly to no benefit.

Yeah we can't be tardy getting the play in besides that defense sometimes wins. JJ Watt won on a play? Nothing unusual about that.

Hootie
09-16-2015, 10:38 AM
Reid needs to surrender playcalling duties entirely in late half and late 4th quarter. Especially in instances where all we have to do is burn the fucking clock.

How hard is it to simply hand the ball to Jamaal late in the game up 2 scores?

Clock moves or they burn a TO. Its win/win even if you gain no yards.

Andy Reid is legitimately fucking retarded.
Kelce picked up a huge 1st down via pass late ... 'burning the clock' play calling gets you in just as much trouble as a few ill advised passes more often than not IMO

Chiefnj2
09-16-2015, 10:41 AM
The 2 deep throws to Maclin were the only 2 plays that were not conservative after the middle of the second qrtr.

They weren't wrong for attempting those.

They were wrong because they were the only "attack" plays from about the 6 minute mark in the second qrtr.

I would say Alex's naked bootleg toward Watt in the second half was a big gamble. Had he hit Kelce with that pass it would have been a huge gain.

Claysexual
09-16-2015, 04:57 PM
You realize that is the same shit he has spewed for 16 years?

For a guy with a play book that is allegedly as thick as a Chinese phone book, I'll be damned if I'm seeing much variation or adjustment for that 2nd half...