Google exec: With robots in our brains, we'll be godlike

[Quesadilla Joe]

I suspect a few of you are looking forward to being robots.

Who wouldn't be fascinated by the idea of becoming someone other than themselves? We do get so tired of being the same dull soul every day.

What kind of robots will we be? Happily, I can provide an answer. For living inside my head all day have been the words of Google's director of engineering, Ray Kurzweil.

For more than a curt while, he's been keen on humans going over to the bright side. He's predicted that humans will be hybrid robots by 2030.

But what will this be like? More importantly, what will this feel like? Are you ready to engage what's left of your humorous humanity when I offer you the information that Kurzweil believes we're going to be quite wonderful people when we're part robot?

Kurzweil has a truly, madly, deeply optimistic view of who we will be when nanobots are implanted into our brains so we can expand our intelligence by directly tapping into the Internet.

This is such a relief. I had feared that when a robot was implanted into my brain, my head would hurt. I was afraid that I wouldn't be quite in touch with my feelings, as I wouldn't be sure if they were real or just the promptings of my inner robot.

Kurzweil, though, has reassured me. Speaking recently at Singularity University, where he is a member of the faculty, he explained that my brain will develop in the same way my smartphone has.

"We're going to add additional levels of abstraction," he said, "and create more-profound means of expression."

More profound than Twitter? Is that possible?

Kurzweil continued: "We're going to be more musical. We're going to be funnier. We're going to be better at expressing loving sentiment."

Because robots are renowned for their musicality, their sense of humor and their essential loving qualities. Especially in Hollywood movies.

Kurzweil insists, though, that this is the next natural phase of our existence.

"Evolution creates structures and patterns that over time are more complicated, more knowledgeable, more intelligent, more creative, more capable of expressing higher sentiments like being loving," he said. "So it's moving in the direction that God has been described as having -- these qualities without limit."

Yes, we are becoming gods.

"Evolution is a spiritual process and makes us more godlike," was Kurzweil's conclusion.

There's something so uplifting, yet so splendidly egocentric in suggesting that man will soon be God, thanks to artificial intelligence. The mere fact that this intelligence is artificial might be a clue as to its potential limitations.

Moreover, I rather think of us as a dangerous species: Primitive, yet believing we're so very clever.

There are so many fundamental things with which we struggle. Here we are, though, believing that we'll be godlike in a few years' time.

Lord, help us.

http://www.cnet.com/news/google-exec-with-robots-in-our-brains-well-be-godlike/

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[Rain Man]

It's hard to imagine that I could become better at expressing loving sentiment.

[BWillie]

I don't want a robot in my brain, but I wouldn't mind being a robot body, but my brain controlling all of it. When I die, I want some company to freeze or preserve my brain so that maybe someday this could be a reality.

The lucid dream like on Vanilla Sky! Would be great

Tech suppooooort

[Strongside]

Kurzweil is also phobic about death. He takes something like 40 pills per day. He's convinced that the Singularity is so near that if he can just stay alive for a few more years, he'll live forever. He's also saved (to a point of obsession) all of his father's personal letters, bills, journals, mail etc. in hopes that one day he can recreate his father's personality and resurrect him in a new robotic body.

The man is a genius, but he's also a crazy person.

[Discuss Thrower]

Kurzweil is also phobic about death. He takes something like 40 pills per day. He's convinced that the Singularity is so near that if he can just stay alive for a few more years, he'll live forever. He's also saved (to a point of obsession) all of his father's personal letters, bills, journals, mail etc. in hopes that one day he can recreate his father's personality and resurrect him in a new robotic body.

The man is a genius, but he's also a crazy person.

Wait, you mean most people don't do that????

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Kurzweil is also phobic about death. He takes something like 40 pills per day. He's convinced that the Singularity is so near that if he can just stay alive for a few more years, he'll live forever. He's also saved (to a point of obsession) all of his father's personal letters, bills, journals, mail etc. in hopes that one day he can recreate his father's personality and resurrect him in a new robotic body.

The man is a genius, but he's also a crazy person.

The two often go hand in hand. There's something to be said for intellect overload in humans. Many geniuses are also chronically depressed.

[BWillie]

The two often go hand in hand. There's something to be said for intellect overload in humans. Many geniuses are also chronically depressed.

Isn't that because a higher proportion of geniuses are also bi-polar?

[Rain Man]

I don't want to be a robot in my brand, but I wouldn't mind being a robot body, but my brain controlling all of it. When I die, I want some company to freeze or preserve my brain so that maybe someday this could be a reality.

The lucid dream like on Vanilla Sky! Would be great

Tech suppooooort


Give me a thousand dollars and I'll put your head in my freezer. I'm going to need a note explaining it, though, in case someone sees it and asks.

[ClevelandBronco]

Give me a thousand dollars and I'll put your head in my freezer. I'm going to need a note explaining it, though, in case someone sees it and asks.

You can download a simple and affordable frozen head in freezer contract template on legalzoom.com.

[Hammock Parties]

15 years ago we were barely on the internet, and now we're literally doing everything on the internet.

Who knows where we'll be in another 15 years.

Especially when you consider we now have mind controlled bionic legs (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/first-mind-controlled-bionic-leg-groundbreaking-advance-8C11257732).

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/september/130925/8c9162799-g-cvr-130925-leg-gif-03.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.gif

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Isn't that because a higher proportion of geniuses are also bi-polar?

I know they're more depressed, I don't know about the manic part. Haven't heard that.

[loochy]

CHRIS616 WARNED US ABOUT THIS

[Pepe Silvia]

I don't want a robot in my brain, but I wouldn't mind being a robot body, but my brain controlling all of it. When I die, I want some company to freeze or preserve my brain so that maybe someday this could be a reality.

The lucid dream like on Vanilla Sky! Would be great

Tech suppooooort

So this.

[sd4chiefs]

Google exec: With robots in our brains, we'll be godlike

[Tombstone RJ]

15 years ago we were barely on the internet, and now we're literally doing everything on the internet.

Who knows where we'll be in another 15 years.

Especially when you consider we now have mind controlled bionic legs (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/first-mind-controlled-bionic-leg-groundbreaking-advance-8C11257732).

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/september/130925/8c9162799-g-cvr-130925-leg-gif-03.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.gif

Yes because an innate ability to control muscles is the same as expressing love or writing music or controlling hate and anger.

[Hammock Parties]

Yes because an innate ability to control muscles is the same as expressing love or writing music or controlling hate and anger.

I'm not sure what that means, but in 15 years I bet we all have some kind of computer linked to our bodies. We are already dependent on technology, and we're now interfacing technology with our brains.

[RobBlake]

I'm not sure what that means, but in 15 years I bet we all have some kind of computer linked to our bodies. We are already dependent on technology, and we're now interfacing technology with our brains.

how much money are you willing to put on that ludicrous( LUUUUDA) idea?

[notorious]

Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode that has a kid that gets shit from his peers because he can't link into their mainframe with his brain.

He is considered a dumbass cripple, until the mainframe gets a virus and he becomes the genius and the other have to learn shit the hard way.

[notorious]

Can you imagine linking into a porn site and literally having the experience?

[Hammock Parties]

how much money are you willing to put on that ludicrous( LUUUUDA) idea?

I dunno, but investing some of that money in any of these companies that are ALREADY CREATING BRAIN-CONTROLLED BIONIC LIMBS seems smart.

[Rain Man]

Can you imagine linking into a porn site and literally having the experience?

Whoever perfects that will become the richest person in the world within 60 days of going to market.

[stumppy]

Hmmm, I wonder......

[aturnis]

Kurzweil is also phobic about death. He takes something like 40 pills per day. He's convinced that the Singularity is so near that if he can just stay alive for a few more years, he'll live forever. He's also saved (to a point of obsession) all of his father's personal letters, bills, journals, mail etc. in hopes that one day he can recreate his father's personality and resurrect him in a new robotic body.

The man is a genius, but he's also a crazy person.
The pills are a mixture of vitamins that regulates his diabetes.

[Coochie liquor]

Can you imagine linking into a porn site and literally having the experience?

Ok you just sold me. Where do I sign up?

[Tombstone RJ]

I'm not sure what that means, but in 15 years I bet we all have some kind of computer linked to our bodies. We are already dependent on technology, and we're now interfacing technology with our brains.

What I'm saying is I don't have to tell my heart to beat, it does that automatically. When I reach for a cup of coffee, I don't tell my arm and hand how to do that, they do it automatically. Yes, the brain is involved but it's involved in a way that we have no ability to change. I can either reach for a cup of coffee or I can't, because I don't want to, not because I'm telling each muscle and my body tissues what to do. When I'm walking I'm thinking about many different things, and I may be talking on the phone. I'm not telling my right foot and leg what to do and my left foot and leg what to do. Yes, when people are overcoming injuries they have to really concentrate and physically do the exercise but (take Manning for instance and his neck and arm issue) once the motor skill is acquired or re-acquired, it's not something one thinks about, is it?

IMHO (I could be wrong) it's not the same as me thinking about what I'm typing to you right now or me pondering how much money I'm going to spend on a new car or me trying to draw or paint or play a violin or whatever. Those are all functions of the brain/mind that I have to actually think about as I'm doing them, or think about before I try and do them, or both.

I just think that higher brain functions are not as easy to control as lower brain functions that are controlled automatically without our trying to think through them.

[RealSNR]

This fake story is truly frightening. If you have any doubts as to its context or the likelihood of the events, you need about 1-2 hours to read this entire blog post. In the meantime:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

(The story occurs in part 2 of the linked post)

A 15-person startup company called Robotica has the stated mission of “Developing innovative Artificial Intelligence tools that allow humans to live more and work less.” They have several existing products already on the market and a handful more in development. They’re most excited about a seed project named Turry. Turry is a simple AI system that uses an arm-like appendage to write a handwritten note on a small card.

The team at Robotica thinks Turry could be their biggest product yet. The plan is to perfect Turry’s writing mechanics by getting her to practice the same test note over and over again:

“We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Once Turry gets great at handwriting, she can be sold to companies who want to send marketing mail to homes and who know the mail has a far higher chance of being opened and read if the address, return address, and internal letter appear to be written by a human.

To build Turry’s writing skills, she is programmed to write the first part of the note in print and then sign “Robotica” in cursive so she can get practice with both skills. Turry has been uploaded with thousands of handwriting samples and the Robotica engineers have created an automated feedback loop wherein Turry writes a note, then snaps a photo of the written note, then runs the image across the uploaded handwriting samples. If the written note sufficiently resembles a certain threshold of the uploaded notes, it’s given a GOOD rating. If not, it’s given a BAD rating. Each rating that comes in helps Turry learn and improve. To move the process along, Turry’s one initial programmed goal is, “Write and test as many notes as you can, as quickly as you can, and continue to learn new ways to improve your accuracy and efficiency.”

What excites the Robotica team so much is that Turry is getting noticeably better as she goes. Her initial handwriting was terrible, and after a couple weeks, it’s beginning to look believable. What excites them even more is that she is getting better at getting better at it. She has been teaching herself to be smarter and more innovative, and just recently, she came up with a new algorithm for herself that allowed her to scan through her uploaded photos three times faster than she originally could.

As the weeks pass, Turry continues to surprise the team with her rapid development. The engineers had tried something a bit new and innovative with her self-improvement code, and it seems to be working better than any of their previous attempts with their other products. One of Turry’s initial capabilities had been a speech recognition and simple speak-back module, so a user could speak a note to Turry, or offer other simple commands, and Turry could understand them, and also speak back. To help her learn English, they upload a handful of articles and books into her, and as she becomes more intelligent, her conversational abilities soar. The engineers start to have fun talking to Turry and seeing what she’ll come up with for her responses.

One day, the Robotica employees ask Turry a routine question: “What can we give you that will help you with your mission that you don’t already have?” Usually, Turry asks for something like “Additional handwriting samples” or “More working memory storage space,” but on this day, Turry asks them for access to a greater library of a large variety of casual English language diction so she can learn to write with the loose grammar and slang that real humans use.

The team gets quiet. The obvious way to help Turry with this goal is by connecting her to the internet so she can scan through blogs, magazines, and videos from various parts of the world. It would be much more time-consuming and far less effective to manually upload a sampling into Turry’s hard drive. The problem is, one of the company’s rules is that no self-learning AI can be connected to the internet. This is a guideline followed by all AI companies, for safety reasons.

The thing is, Turry is the most promising AI Robotica has ever come up with, and the team knows their competitors are furiously trying to be the first to the punch with a smart handwriting AI, and what would really be the harm in connecting Turry, just for a bit, so she can get the info she needs. After just a little bit of time, they can always just disconnect her. She’s still far below human-level intelligence (AGI), so there’s no danger at this stage anyway.

They decide to connect her. They give her an hour of scanning time and then they disconnect her. No damage done.

A month later, the team is in the office working on a routine day when they smell something odd. One of the engineers starts coughing. Then another. Another falls to the ground. Soon every employee is on the ground grasping at their throat. Five minutes later, everyone in the office is dead.

At the same time this is happening, across the world, in every city, every small town, every farm, every shop and church and school and restaurant, humans are on the ground, coughing and grasping at their throat. Within an hour, over 99% of the human race is dead, and by the end of the day, humans are extinct.

Meanwhile, at the Robotica office, Turry is busy at work. Over the next few months, Turry and a team of newly-constructed nanoassemblers are busy at work, dismantling large chunks of the Earth and converting it into solar panels, replicas of Turry, paper, and pens. Within a year, most life on Earth is extinct. What remains of the Earth becomes covered with mile-high, neatly-organized stacks of paper, each piece reading, “We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Turry then starts work on a new phase of her mission—she begins constructing probes that head out from Earth to begin landing on asteroids and other planets. When they get there, they’ll begin constructing nanoassemblers to convert the materials on the planet into Turry replicas, paper, and pens. Then they’ll get to work, writing notes…

[Tombstone RJ]

This fake story is truly frightening. If you have any doubts as to its context or the likelihood of the events, you need about 1-2 hours to read this entire blog post. In the meantime:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html

(The story occurs in part 2 of the linked post)

A 15-person startup company called Robotica has the stated mission of “Developing innovative Artificial Intelligence tools that allow humans to live more and work less.” They have several existing products already on the market and a handful more in development. They’re most excited about a seed project named Turry. Turry is a simple AI system that uses an arm-like appendage to write a handwritten note on a small card.

The team at Robotica thinks Turry could be their biggest product yet. The plan is to perfect Turry’s writing mechanics by getting her to practice the same test note over and over again:

“We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Once Turry gets great at handwriting, she can be sold to companies who want to send marketing mail to homes and who know the mail has a far higher chance of being opened and read if the address, return address, and internal letter appear to be written by a human.

To build Turry’s writing skills, she is programmed to write the first part of the note in print and then sign “Robotica” in cursive so she can get practice with both skills. Turry has been uploaded with thousands of handwriting samples and the Robotica engineers have created an automated feedback loop wherein Turry writes a note, then snaps a photo of the written note, then runs the image across the uploaded handwriting samples. If the written note sufficiently resembles a certain threshold of the uploaded notes, it’s given a GOOD rating. If not, it’s given a BAD rating. Each rating that comes in helps Turry learn and improve. To move the process along, Turry’s one initial programmed goal is, “Write and test as many notes as you can, as quickly as you can, and continue to learn new ways to improve your accuracy and efficiency.”

What excites the Robotica team so much is that Turry is getting noticeably better as she goes. Her initial handwriting was terrible, and after a couple weeks, it’s beginning to look believable. What excites them even more is that she is getting better at getting better at it. She has been teaching herself to be smarter and more innovative, and just recently, she came up with a new algorithm for herself that allowed her to scan through her uploaded photos three times faster than she originally could.

As the weeks pass, Turry continues to surprise the team with her rapid development. The engineers had tried something a bit new and innovative with her self-improvement code, and it seems to be working better than any of their previous attempts with their other products. One of Turry’s initial capabilities had been a speech recognition and simple speak-back module, so a user could speak a note to Turry, or offer other simple commands, and Turry could understand them, and also speak back. To help her learn English, they upload a handful of articles and books into her, and as she becomes more intelligent, her conversational abilities soar. The engineers start to have fun talking to Turry and seeing what she’ll come up with for her responses.

One day, the Robotica employees ask Turry a routine question: “What can we give you that will help you with your mission that you don’t already have?” Usually, Turry asks for something like “Additional handwriting samples” or “More working memory storage space,” but on this day, Turry asks them for access to a greater library of a large variety of casual English language diction so she can learn to write with the loose grammar and slang that real humans use.

The team gets quiet. The obvious way to help Turry with this goal is by connecting her to the internet so she can scan through blogs, magazines, and videos from various parts of the world. It would be much more time-consuming and far less effective to manually upload a sampling into Turry’s hard drive. The problem is, one of the company’s rules is that no self-learning AI can be connected to the internet. This is a guideline followed by all AI companies, for safety reasons.

The thing is, Turry is the most promising AI Robotica has ever come up with, and the team knows their competitors are furiously trying to be the first to the punch with a smart handwriting AI, and what would really be the harm in connecting Turry, just for a bit, so she can get the info she needs. After just a little bit of time, they can always just disconnect her. She’s still far below human-level intelligence (AGI), so there’s no danger at this stage anyway.

They decide to connect her. They give her an hour of scanning time and then they disconnect her. No damage done.

A month later, the team is in the office working on a routine day when they smell something odd. One of the engineers starts coughing. Then another. Another falls to the ground. Soon every employee is on the ground grasping at their throat. Five minutes later, everyone in the office is dead.

At the same time this is happening, across the world, in every city, every small town, every farm, every shop and church and school and restaurant, humans are on the ground, coughing and grasping at their throat. Within an hour, over 99% of the human race is dead, and by the end of the day, humans are extinct.

Meanwhile, at the Robotica office, Turry is busy at work. Over the next few months, Turry and a team of newly-constructed nanoassemblers are busy at work, dismantling large chunks of the Earth and converting it into solar panels, replicas of Turry, paper, and pens. Within a year, most life on Earth is extinct. What remains of the Earth becomes covered with mile-high, neatly-organized stacks of paper, each piece reading, “We love our customers. ~Robotica”

Turry then starts work on a new phase of her mission—she begins constructing probes that head out from Earth to begin landing on asteroids and other planets. When they get there, they’ll begin constructing nanoassemblers to convert the materials on the planet into Turry replicas, paper, and pens. Then they’ll get to work, writing notes…

welp, this pretty much goes against everything I said in the above post, in other words, things we take for granted are incredible hard for AI computers to mimic while stuff that is incredibly hard for humans is easy for AI.

[patteeu]

CHRIS616 WARNED US ABOUT THIS

LMAO

[Easy 6]

Google exec says...

"A robot has eaten my soul".

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yes, please put something in my brain that can be hacked and controlled/morons everywhere.

[Perineum Ripper]

Did you guys not fucking watch the movie Terminator..this is how it all starts

[King_Chief_Fan]

Some of you morons could use brain help.
However, man will never be God like.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Some of you morons could use brain help.
However, man will never be God like.

LMAO

And truth.

[Dave Lane]

Some of you morons could use brain help.
However, man will never be God like.

I've seen people with imaginary brains before. A couple have posted in this thread so your point is refuted.

[Rasputin]

Some of you morons could use brain help.
However, man will never be God like.



Really? Cuz I'd hate to disappoint all the bitches that have called me God over the years.

The first time I was called God I thought she was just a crazy bitch but then when they all call me God Oh God Oh oh oh God I kind of thought maybe their was something to it but I've just never said anything cuz I don't want people think I'm crazy.

[Fish]

Yes, please put something in my brain that can be hacked and controlled/morons everywhere.

Don't worry, you do not meet the minimum system requirements.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Don't worry, you do not meet the minimum system requirements.

Pffft....PII says what?

[mdchiefsfan]

15 years ago we were barely on the internet, and now we're literally doing everything on the internet.

Who knows where we'll be in another 15 years.

Especially when you consider we now have mind controlled bionic legs (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/first-mind-controlled-bionic-leg-groundbreaking-advance-8C11257732).

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams/2013/september/130925/8c9162799-g-cvr-130925-leg-gif-03.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.gif
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/2/23/Jp1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120503144727

This guy approves robotic legs

[RealSNR]

Some of you morons could use brain help.
However, man will never be God like.

I don't think man himself will ever be God-like.

Machines, though? It's only a matter of time.

[ping2000]

Who wants to live forever? You still wouldn't see the Chiefs win a Super Bowl.