Okay car guys... Good value?

[luv]

Or can we talk them down?

Free Carfax.

http://www.cmsmotorsports.com/vehicle-details/used-2008-jeep-grand-cherokee-laredo-springfield-mo-id-15029200

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DFI_0&vin=1J8GR48K58C228533

According to one website, it is listed at $1725 above the average asking price. This one has the Hefty floor liner, tow package, below average mileage, etc. though. Just wondering what smarter people than me think. Thanks.

[BigBeauford]

Seems like a lot for an almost 10 year old Chrysler vehicle. It's going to start having problems soon.

[luv]

On the Carfax, it lists an accident and airbag deployment. When I asked the sales associate if they had more information, they said the vehicle rear ended someone at a stop light and the steering wheel airbag deployed. Maintenance was performed, wheels aligned, etc. There's no front end damage reported, so I'm guessing the motor wasn't affected?

[luv]

Seems like a lot for an almost 10 year old Chrysler vehicle. It's going to start having problems soon.

Really? I thought Jeep was one of those that you could drive into the ground. The mileage is really good for the year, and it appears to have been well-maintained.

[alpha_omega]

15 city, 19 highway?.....i'd be looking at something else.

[BigBeauford]

Really? I thought Jeep was one of those that you could drive into the ground. The mileage is really good for the year, and it appears to have been well-maintained.

Someone can feel free to correct me, but Chrysler products are consistently at the bottom for reliability according to consumer reports.

[pr_capone]

Really? I thought Jeep was one of those that you could drive into the ground. The mileage is really good for the year, and it appears to have been well-maintained.

They used to be. Jeep hasn't been the same since they were bought out by Dodge/Chrystler but they still thrive on the old reputation.

The only Jeep brand vehicle that is still remotely as rugged as its reputation makes it out to be is the Wrangler. The Cherokee fair ok and everything else they put out is junk.

[hometeam]

Too much, and they ALWAYS have issues. Not to mention airbag deployment etc.

That 3.7 liter v6 is plagued with issues. Its the 4.0 straight six that they got rid of in years prior that was the beastly bulletproof motor you always heard about, and thats the ONLY good thing they made.

PM me lets find you a real deal~

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Too much, and they ALWAYS have issues. Not to mention airbag deployment etc.

That 3.7 liter v6 is plagued with issues. Its the 4.0 straight six that they got rid of in years prior that was the beastly bulletproof motor you always heard about, and thats the ONLY good thing they made.

PM me lets find you a real deal~

I think it's more of a braking problem .The airbag seems to deploy when they smash into the back of other vehicles.

[The Franchise]

Everyone I've ever known that owned a Jeep.....fucking hated it because of all of the issues they had.

[SAUTO]

Pass WAY too much.

Call hometeam

[Dave Lane]

I paid less than that for my 2009. In 2009.

[HemiEd]

Baconeater seems to be pretty happy with his.

Lots of opinions, even in this thread by people that heard or read something somewhere but haven't actually owned one.

Of course, I am well known to be biased.

I own a 3.7 in our 07 Nitro, 83k, but I take obsessive care of my stuff with oil changes and other maintenance.

Our Nitro has had more problems than every car we have ever owned combined, but the engine is not one of them.

I swear it was put together on a Monday with parts rejected from the previous week. But it was all fixed under warranty and is a fine dependable SUV now.

It sounds high priced to me, and I would want nothing to do with a vehicle that has had an air bag deploy.


Oh, and AMC (rambler) is the company that put out some real crap under the jeep name when they owned it.

[Dave Lane]

They used to be. Jeep hasn't been the same since they were bought out by Dodge/Chrystler but they still thrive on the old reputation.

The only Jeep brand vehicle that is still remotely as rugged as its reputation makes it out to be is the Wrangler. The Cherokee fair ok and everything else they put out is junk.

Friend of mine has a Rubicon and that thing can climb a tree. He loves it.

[scho63]

Pass WAY too much.

Call hometeam

Correct answer! :clap:

Plus airbag deployment is a good speed accident and the frame could be out of whack.

[Kiimo]

Don't buy a Jeep.

[Amnorix]

Pass WAY too much.

Call hometeam


I know you know your vehicles, so I gotta ask, WTF is "hometeam"?

[kccrow]

That's $400 over NADA Clean Retail.

I'm betting they don't have over $8000 into that. How long have they had it on the lot?

If you really love it, offer them $9000 out the door and see what they say. I wouldn't pay a dime over 10 for it, but I avoid Chrysler like the plague anyhow.

[luv]

I know you know your vehicles, so I gotta ask, WTF is "hometeam"?

hometeam is the poster who told me to PM him. :)

Oh, and, hometeam, pm sent.

[Amnorix]

hometeam is the poster who told me to PM him. :)

Oh, and, hometeam, pm sent.


ROFL ROFL ROFL

Thanks!

[jspchief]

Loved my wrangler for the fun factor, but it was a piece of shit. Mechanical, electrical etc.

[stevieray]

Friend of mine has a Rubicon and that thing can climb a tree. He loves it.

I LOVED my Cherokee

Still wish I had it.

uninsured driver.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[hometeam]

I know you know your vehicles, so I gotta ask, WTF is "hometeam"?


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[threebag]

Two words: General Motors

[Bugeater]

They used to be. Jeep hasn't been the same since they were bought out by Dodge/Chrystler but they still thrive on the old reputation.

The only Jeep brand vehicle that is still remotely as rugged as its reputation makes it out to be is the Wrangler. The Cherokee fair ok and everything else they put out is junk.
The Daimler buyout is when things seemed to go downhill, I've noticed a significant difference in quality, especially the electrical components, in my pre and post buyout Chryslers. Not sure if things have improved much since then. But the 90's stuff is still very sought after by off road enthusiasts. You see that shit all over where you live.

And I wouldn't buy a Jeep that didn't have the 4.0 I6 in it.

[Dayze]

Hometeam needs to let me know if he or any of his associates are in the Harley game.

[Buehler445]

Jeep hates people taller than 5' 8".

FWIW

[Abba-Dabba]

Seems over priced with closing in on triple digit miles. You could have a much better, smallish type SUV with a ton of lower miles for about about the same price. Seen a Nissan Rogue with 30k miles the other day right around the same price.

Have you looked outside of Springfield? Traveling a couple hundred miles opens up so many buying opportunities at dealerships.

[Hammock Parties]

For the record, I've had had very few issues with my 02 Jeep with almost 130k miles. I did have to replace a valve after I bought it but that's been the only issue. Oh and the front end alignment was all fucked up and I had to have that fixed. Oh and one of the window motors need to be replaced recently. But I'm sure nothing else will go wrong.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I've got a buddy that made a video of his crossing 300k. 3 years ago. It crossed 400k last month.

[MahiMike]

Chrysler?

RUN

[Chiefnj2]

Go to Harbor Freight and buy an OBD2 scanner for about $50.

Plug it under the dash of any car you are looking to buy and it will tell you about major potential problems and if anything was recently cleared that may not let you pass inspection.

[Bugeater]

Jeep hates people taller than 5' 8".

FWIW
I'm 6'1" and I'm comfortable in my Grand Cherokee.

[Bwana]

For that year and model along with the history, that's overpriced.

[lewdog]

Jeep seems to be very hit or miss from people I know with them in regards to reliability. With a Jeep that has clearly been in an accident and is currently over-priced, that's a total pass. Plus, that's horrible gas mileage for a car like that.

[luv]

Seems over priced with closing in on triple digit miles. You could have a much better, smallish type SUV with a ton of lower miles for about about the same price. Seen a Nissan Rogue with 30k miles the other day right around the same price.

Have you looked outside of Springfield? Traveling a couple hundred miles opens up so many buying opportunities at dealerships.
Looking at a few in Ozark and Marshfield.

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[Gonzo]

Well, IMO you should have a bunch of options out there. Almost an "infinite" number to look at. Be careful though... You have no idea who might've "co-signed" a deal on something and might be selling stolen wheels.

[hometeam]

I've got a buddy that made a video of his crossing 300k. 3 years ago. It crossed 400k last month.

With the 3.7? nah... I bet its an older one with the 4.0.

[Demonpenz]

I had a patriot and the freaking resale value was redonk.. I bought it for like 24 drove it for 5 years and still got 16 or so thousand out of it. 4x4 jeeps hold their value. This though looks like shit. I would get a nice midsize car new with 100,000 mile warranty.

[Buehler445]

I'm 6'1" and I'm comfortable in my Grand Cherokee.

You must have more joints than I do that makes you fold up better. Gal I worked with at Cabela's had one and I felt like I was riding in a shoebox.

The worst was this girl I wanted to bang in college had a Sebring convertable. My god. I was crammed from every direction.

[BlackHelicopters]

Value and reliability? Toyota

[Bugeater]

You must have more joints than I do that makes you fold up better. Gal I worked with at Cabela's had one and I felt like I was riding in a shoebox.

The worst was this girl I wanted to bang in college had a Sebring convertable. My god. I was crammed from every direction.
You sure it wasn't a regular (XJ) Cherokee? Those are a bit more cramped, I can barely get through the doors of them.

[Codered]

I am not a car guy by any means, but my 08 Compass with 130k miles (mostly highway) has held up pretty well with only a few things that had to be done outside of normal maintenance.

[luv]

I knew I'd get honest opinion and helpful tips. Thanks all. Still perusing the used car websites. :)

[WhawhaWhat]

I would comment but I'm not even an Okay car guy. I'm a pretty terrible car guy.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

With the 3.7? nah... I bet its an older one with the 4.0.

Definitely older.

[hometeam]

Definitely older.

That 4.0 is bulletproof and legendary.

Jeep stopped making it because of emissions, and the 3.7 they replaced it with is well.. like the rest of chrysler products.. shitty.

[The Bunk]

I've had my 2015 Wrangler for just over a year now. I love it. Granted, it's only been a year, but I haven't had a single issue with it thus far. Most fun vehicle to drive that I've ever owned for sure.

[luv]

http://www.bmwofspringfield.com/used/Jeep/2010-Jeep-Grand+Cherokee-4d8206d20a0e0a6b278b2504db066c1e.htm

This is the other one we were looking at. Still has the 3.7L V6 though.

Car shopping can be really frustrating.

[threebag]

I am putting a 12,000lb winch on the front of my Hummer this week. This thing is fun to drive.

[threebag]

Luv what are your wants in a vehicle? I could look around here when i am out and about.

[Pennywise]

We had one that had shit gas mileage.

[hometeam]

Grand Cherokees WILL have issues. I promise you. We rarely even keep them because they cant make it through our reconditioning process without a bunch of money spent.

[luv]

Luv what are your wants in a vehicle? I could look around here when i am out and about.

We would LOVE:

SUV
4WD
V6
Good towing capacity
Less than 100k miles
The higher the mileage, the lower the price. Hoping to stay at or below $12k for this type of vehicle.

If we end up having to compromise too much to stay with that price, then we'll look for something newer but without the tow package, 4 cyl, etc.

[threebag]

We would LOVE:

SUV
4WD
V6
Good towing capacity
Less than 100k miles
The higher the mileage, the lower the price. Hoping to stay at or below $12k for this type of vehicle.

If we end up having to compromise too much to stay with that price, then we'll look for something newer but without the tow package, 4 cyl, etc.

Great i will keep a keen eye peeled. If i find anything i will link in PM.

:thumb:

[hometeam]

Value and price are two different things.

Very hard to find the vehicle you are looking for, but that doesnt mean there isnt one out there. Value wont land you on a Jeep :P

[threebag]

I am helping a buddy shop for a truck now...

[luv]

Value and price are two different things.

Very hard to find the vehicle you are looking for, but that doesnt mean there isnt one out there. Value wont land you on a Jeep :P

Okay, okay... No more looking at Jeeps...lol.

[luv]

Okay. One thing definitely supports what you all are saying. There are a ton of Jeeps for sale around here. People seem to be dumping them left and right.

[threebag]

My daughter likes her jeep. Its a 2015, too small for my liking. I like to have a more open cabin. If i want squeezed into a car i will look at Vettes.

[luv]

Okay, so I found something I think I'm excited about. Burst my bubble or tell me to be excited. It's not a 6 cyl, but it's an I-4. Still 4WD. No towing, but it's my car (not my boyfriend's). :) A little above target price, but low mileage.

https://www.reliablechevy.com/used/Mitsubishi/2015-Mitsubishi-Outlander+Sport-c49f294b0a0e0ae8595b246c314449fb.htm

And, well, ya know....it's red. :)

[SAUTO]

Okay, so I found something I think I'm excited about. Burst my bubble or tell me to be excited. It's not a 6 cyl, but it's an I-4. Still 4WD. No towing, but it's my car (not my boyfriend's). :) A little above target price, but low mileage.

https://www.reliablechevy.com/used/Mitsubishi/2015-Mitsubishi-Outlander+Sport-c49f294b0a0e0ae8595b246c314449fb.htm

And, well, ya know....it's red. :)

Looks like they already have been dinged on trans issues, electrical issues, and engine issues...

All on 2015 sports. 3 recalls multiple tsb's

[Kiimo]

Yeah you can get a great deal on Hyundai Santa Fe or Tuscon that's rated a ton better than that thing.

Or a CX5. They're both nice, reliable, great gas mileage and not expensive.

[hometeam]

I hate to beat up a newer low mile Mitsubishi that bad, but the things are tin cans, they are super cheap and chintzy. However, that one has a bunch of warranty left. If you buy it knowing that after your warranty runs out you are treading on thin ice it might not be a bad deal. So, if its a 2-3 year car you might be OK, but be warned, they also poor resale value.

[Indian Chief]

Yeah you can get a great deal on Hyundai Santa Fe or Tuscon that's rated a ton better than that thing.

Or a CX5. They're both nice, reliable, great gas mileage and not expensive.

I've known a few people with Hyundais that loved them. Because of their starting price point, you may also be able to find one with lower mileage that fits nicely into your budget.

[hometeam]

I've known a few people with Hyundais that loved them. Because of their starting price point, you may also be able to find one with lower mileage that fits nicely into your budget.

Hyundais are a mid tier type car, and that's not bad. Certainly better than the Chrysler, BMW< and Mitsubishi's of the world. They also have a 5yr/60k bumper to bumper warranty. So, if you find a low mileage one, you are covered if any issues arrive for the first part of ownership.

[Kiimo]

I was gonna say they are really trying to get their stuff out there and their warranties are enviable.

I got a new Altima for various reasons but I was really mad at myself for not test driving a new Tuscon and price compare.

[Indian Chief]

Is Hyundai still doing the 10 year/100k powertrain warranty? That's also worth some peace of mind.

[luv]

http://m.cars.com/vehicledetail/#vdp?listingId=678579996

Let's try this one.

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[lewdog]

Take a look at a Mazda CX-5 for that price point.

[hometeam]

Is Hyundai still doing the 10 year/100k powertrain warranty? That's also worth some peace of mind.

Only if you buy it new, 2nd owner gets 5/60 comprehensive

[hometeam]

Take a look at a Mazda CX-5 for that price point.

cx-5 is smaller than the santa fe, depends on if she needs the room.

a CX-5 is an Escape in a Mazda badge, and while I think overall they are better cars than Hyundais, because of the number of Escapes available you can get better value in that vehicle. UNless you really like the styling of the cx-5, there is always that.

[Kiimo]

CX-5 handles great but it has that thing I simply cannot roll with, pun intended. Let off the gas and the thing drags to a stop. Drives me crazy.

[lewdog]

cx-5 is smaller than the santa fe, depends on if she needs the room.

a CX-5 is an Escape in a Mazda badge, and while I think overall they are better cars than Hyundais, because of the number of Escapes available you can get better value in that vehicle. UNless you really like the styling of the cx-5, there is always that.

Very true. Either one are good. I am unsure of the size she's wanting? Isn't that Mitsubishi Outlander a similar size to the Escape?

[hometeam]

Very true. Either one are good. I am unsure of the size she's wanting? Isn't that Mitsubishi Outlander a similar size to the Escape?

Its closer to the Edge/Santa Fe/Equinox etc, outlanders can even have 3rd row.

[lewdog]

Its closer to the Edge/Santa Fe/Equinox etc, outlanders can even have 3rd row.

Oh ok. I really don't know dick about Mitsubishi. I'd never buy one.

[Bugeater]

What the hell are you ever going to tow?

[tx4chiefs]

Don't buy a Jeep.

Agreed... Or any Chysler product. They suck.

[luv]

Okay, so I found something I think I'm excited about. Burst my bubble or tell me to be excited. It's not a 6 cyl, but it's an I-4. Still 4WD. No towing, but it's my car (not my boyfriend's). :) A little above target price, but low mileage.

https://www.reliablechevy.com/used/Mitsubishi/2015-Mitsubishi-Outlander+Sport-c49f294b0a0e0ae8595b246c314449fb.htm

And, well, ya know....it's red. :)

Test drove this.

Also test drove: https://www.reliablechevy.com/used/Nissan/2009-Nissan-Murano-253b39670a0e0a171807badc9e8f6f74.htm

Definitely leaning toward the Nissan.

[luv]

What the hell are you ever going to tow?

Bryan dreams of getting a boat...or at least a jet ski...one day.

[SAUTO]

Oh lord...

Those cvt trans sucks ass. The ball joints are shit on those, the control arms move around more than I would be comfortable with.

I've had several customers that drive that exact nissan and hated it every day they had it.

[hometeam]

Test drove this.

Also test drove: https://www.reliablechevy.com/used/Nissan/2009-Nissan-Murano-253b39670a0e0a171807badc9e8f6f74.htm

Definitely leaning toward the Nissan.

Not a terrible deal on the Nissan.

You could also look into a Rogue which has very close to the same interior space of the Murano, gets way better fuel mileage, and for 15k you can probably get one with half the miles.

[SAUTO]

But I'll be honest, I only see cars when there is an issue.

I ran Google on the murano and seems like it had ok.reviews.

[luv]

Not a terrible deal on the Nissan.

You could also look into a Rogue which has very close to the same interior space of the Murano, gets way better fuel mileage, and for 15k you can probably get one with half the miles.

This Murano had all the bells and whistles (not that they're needed, but, oh, so nice). Double sun roof, heated leather seats, rear camera, ecoboost, etc. Plus, it has the V6 we want.

[Abba-Dabba]

Not a terrible deal on the Nissan.

You could also look into a Rogue which has very close to the same interior space of the Murano, gets way better fuel mileage, and for 15k you can probably get one with half the miles.


Not in her area, but...

http://www.midwestkia.com/used-Wichita-2015-Nissan-Rogue+Select-S-JN8AS5MV3FW261747

[SAUTO]

This Murano had all the bells and whistles (not that they're needed, but, oh, so nice. Double sun roof, heated leather seats, rear camera, ecoboost, etc. Plus, it has the V6 we want.

Ecoboost on the nissan?

[luv]

Ecoboost on the nissan?

I don't see where it says it online, but I could have sworn my boyfriend asked about it. Of course, thinking further, I think it may have been when he was driving the Mitsubishi.

[KS Smitty]

We bought a 2013 Murano last year and have been extremely happy with it. It's been taken out on the interstates, backroads, highways and city and have no complaints on anything. I didn't know whether I'd like the CVT trans but honestly I love it! We also went with the V6 cuz I like power over mileage.

[hometeam]

CVT trans can be a point of contention for people sometimes.

It does its job great.. drives nicely, gets fuel mileage, and aside from a couple of older years (which Nissan extended warranty on) they have been very reliable.

It also feels 'wrong' to some, and is next to useless for towing~

If your just going to drive a vehicle, its a fine choice.

[KS Smitty]

CVT trans can be a point of contention for people sometimes.

It does its job great.. drives nicely, gets fuel mileage, and aside from a couple of older years (which Nissan extended warranty on) they have been very reliable.

It also feels 'wrong' to some, and is next to useless for towing~

If your just going to drive a vehicle, its a fine choice.

It's awfully strange to not have your car shift, that's taken some getting used to but I don't think it's done anything to hurt theperformance. I do like the fact that when I go to pass another vehicle and I nail it, it just takes off.

[Dave Lane]

Due to my travels, I've driven almost every SUV that is out there. I finally stopped renting for 2 weeks 6 times a years and bought my own, but my recommendation is Explore #1, Hyundai Santa Fe and the GMC Terrain. Most the other stuff was too small and cheap feeling to drive. Out of 24 rentals in very very rough duty those 3 are my favorites to drive.

[SAUTO]

I parked on one of your lots and told the guy there to call you if there was a problem.

[luv]

We've still got a few questions to ask, but, if things work out, I think we may have the Nissan soon. Fingers crossed.

In looking on repairpal.com, there are three recalls listed. One was in February 2008. How can a 2009 be recalled so early in 2008? While in production?

[hometeam]

We've still got a few questions to ask, but, if things work out, I think we may have the Nissan soon. Fingers crossed.

In looking on repairpal.com, there are three recalls listed. One was in February 2008. How can a 2009 be recalled so early in 2008? While in production?

Yep.

IIRC that was the year the Murano skipped a model year too. They went straight from 2007 to 2009 model year and released early in 2008.

[luv]

Nissan is now ours. Got it for $13,500. They were also generous with the value of boyfriend's trade-in (he got about $1000 more for it than I thought he'd get).

Thanks for the advice, guys. Much appreciated!