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Reerun_KC
01-08-2017, 08:23 AM
Is it time already?

Chiefs will try to extend coach Andy Reid this offseason http://es.pn/2iRGTHF
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Unless win Superbowl. Mixed feelings about going all sideways for the future...

OnTheWarpath15
01-08-2017, 08:30 AM
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

Coochie liquor
01-08-2017, 08:30 AM
On occasion he drives me fucking bonkers, but he's a very good coach. I'm all for extending him, he's only won since he got here.

oldman
01-08-2017, 08:31 AM
Let's see---11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, 3 playoff appearances in 4 years. Naw, I think he's gotta go unless we win the SB, Smith throws for 450 yards and 6 TDs, and we win by 50 points.

Coochie liquor
01-08-2017, 08:31 AM
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

God I hope he stays here. That would truly suck. I feel like he's where he wants to be right now though. He seems committed, and isn't done building his team yet.

ChiliConCarnage
01-08-2017, 08:33 AM
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

Those cheese eating motherfuckers!

OnTheWarpath15
01-08-2017, 08:34 AM
God I hope he stays here. That would truly suck. I feel like he's where he wants to be right now though. He seems committed, and isn't done building his team yet.

I didn't realize he's in the last year of his deal. I just assumed he and Andy had the same length of contract.

Coochie liquor
01-08-2017, 08:36 AM
I didn't realize he's in the last year of his deal. I just assumed he and Andy had the same length of contract.

Wow I didn't realize that either. Damn sure hope he stays put. Clark, write that man a BIG check!!

Bob Dole
01-08-2017, 08:41 AM
Ree_rum once again advocating for the Browns model of building a team. Unless SB, throw out coach and QB. Doesn't matter WHO replaces them, but they need to be replaced.

Rasputin
01-08-2017, 08:41 AM
I'm pretty confident we will keep the ship sailing with Dorsey and Andy. They seem to really like KC and are having success so I think Clark will do the right thing keep them both around a few more years. I'd say both will have ten years together before they decide to move on so 6 more years.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-08-2017, 08:42 AM
#Chiefs GM John Dorsey hasn’t signed a contract extension. Important name to watch as a potential future #Packers GM

Chief Northman
01-08-2017, 08:43 AM
Is it time already?

Chiefs will try to extend coach Andy Reid this offseason http://es.pn/2iRGTHF
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Unless win Superbowl. Mixed feelings about going all sideways for the future...

Yeah, winning sucks.

RunKC
01-08-2017, 08:44 AM
I'd be surprised if he left considering he said this was a dream job a his wife is from here. He doesn't seem like he would just up and leave Andy like that either.

But if he did leave, it's Ballard's job

milkman
01-08-2017, 08:49 AM
I had no idea that Reid is only 58.

As long as the team keeps winning, he could be around for another 10 years.

pugsnotdrugs19
01-08-2017, 08:49 AM
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Chief Roundup
01-08-2017, 08:50 AM
We need to extend both Reid and Dorsey.

milkman
01-08-2017, 08:51 AM
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Regardless, getting Dorsey extended should be Hunt's #1 priority.

Hoover
01-08-2017, 08:52 AM
This just means that Dorsey and Reid sign new contracts this coming week. Perfect timing BEFORE a huge playoff game.

Clark is going to have to write some BIG checks.

RunKC
01-08-2017, 08:52 AM
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

His contract is up, Chris Ballard said he wants to stay and there has been zero talk of us extending Dorsey

OnTheWarpath15
01-08-2017, 08:52 AM
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job.

BryanBusby
01-08-2017, 08:52 AM
The Packers have some great inhouse candidates to fill the spot, which is why Ted Thompson is giving up the GM role. I don't think they will fill it externally.

Rasputin
01-08-2017, 08:52 AM
I like the way Dorsey and Reid work together. Dorsey buys the ingredients and Reid cooks.

This is a far and above from the dictatorship regime under Pioli. Haley may have been a hell of a coach after all but Pioli tied his hands with Cassel and I know Haley knew he couldn't win with Cassel. That was the worst feeling I've ever felt scary how things were ran and I also feel bad for Coach Romeo for what he had to witness in the parking lot and but it was brought on by Pioli being a freaking asshole that made this franchise go cold and dark.


Fuck you Pioli you piece of shit maggot fuck you.


Things are much better now and give credit to Clark Hunt for bringing in Reid and Dorsey. I just hope we get to the Super Bowl and make all these years worth the wait and sacrifice.

MTG#10
01-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job. Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.

Rasputin
01-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Reid and Dorsey aren't going anywhere. Clark will pay them what they are worth.

It's business and business is winning. I believe Clark hates losing so as long as business is winning and business is good he will extend Dorsey and Reid.

RunKC
01-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

Rasputin
01-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.

Dorsey is not going anywhere.

oldman
01-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Regardless, getting Dorsey extended should be Hunt's #1 priority.

I agree 100%. Hell, name a bridge around Arrowhead after him if need be.

pugsnotdrugs19
01-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job.

Perhaps. But a lot of dominoes have to fall first, starting with Ted Thompson giving up the job this year.

OnTheWarpath15
01-08-2017, 08:58 AM
Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

IIRC, they allowed him to interview for the SF job so they certainly aren't afraid to lose him.

BryanBusby
01-08-2017, 08:59 AM
The only reason the GB spot is open now because Ted Thompson knew he would lose somebody like Elliot Wolf to another franchise, if he weren't promoted soon.

OnTheWarpath15
01-08-2017, 08:59 AM
Perhaps. But a lot of dominoes have to fall first, starting with Ted Thompson giving up the job this year.

This is true, but has been speculated for most of the season.

Marcellus
01-08-2017, 09:00 AM
His contract is up, Chris Ballard said he wants to stay and there has been zero talk of us extending Dorsey

And you have ZERO idea whats being discussed internally. Not everyone leaks their plans to media.

BryanBusby
01-08-2017, 09:02 AM
And on the chance that Dorsey does leave for GB, it's almost as if the Chiefs have the most badass fill-in in the NFL.

Settle the fuck down

Rasputin
01-08-2017, 09:02 AM
Why would Clark want to go through another process of interviews? All he has to do is negotiate with Dorsey and it will be a slam dunk deal for 4 more years.



He will do the same with Reid. Dorsey and Reid are tied at the hip they work great together and both give each other credit so it's not like we are having issues like in the past.

I'm not worried Dorsey and Reid will get their extensions.

DC.chief
01-08-2017, 09:03 AM
Just saw that about Dorsey too. I don't know man. I find it really hard to believe but were not talking about jason la confora here. We have a great thing going right here and I really hope he stays

pugsnotdrugs19
01-08-2017, 09:08 AM
We do have a nice contingency plan in Ballard.. idk. I think I'll let the cards unfold on this one before I give much more thought to it.

Hoover
01-08-2017, 09:08 AM
I don't know why Dorsey would leave a team that he built. The Chiefs is HIS team. All his. He build this roster, he decided who to keep, who to walk.

Dorsey gets all the credit here. He doesn't get the credit in Green Bay. People will always talk about Wolf. People will also credit any success to Rogers.

What roster/situation would you want? I know I'm a homer, but damn, KC is set to win now and in the future. We need some guard help, an ILB, and then everything else every team in the league needs young players to develop at every position. Yeah he could go to Green Bay and be with Rogers, but damn, there are some big holes to fill in Green Bay especially on defense.

unlurking
01-08-2017, 09:08 AM
Let's see---11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, 3 playoff appearances in 4 years. Naw, I think he's gotta go unless we win the SB, Smith throws for 450 yards and 6 TDs, and we win by 50 points.
Not that I'm saying I want Reid gone, but we've seen this before. Marty had 6 playoff appearances in his first 7 years here. 7 of 10 total. Playoff appearances don't mean jack shit to me anymore. I'm also not saying Reid is the same coach as Marty. I'm just saying record doesn't mean shit without winning the ultimate prize. Not anymore. Not after fifty years.

RealSNR
01-08-2017, 09:14 AM
There were rumblings not two months ago that Mike McCarthy was going to lose his job. Rumblings from INSIDE the Packers.

You want that kind of shit show, Dorsey?

notorious
01-08-2017, 09:15 AM
This is just leverage to get moare money. Nothing to see here.

O.city
01-08-2017, 09:17 AM
Yeah, we should move on from Reid.


Good lord

RunKC
01-08-2017, 09:18 AM
yeah just looked to be sure. John's wife is from here and if he has a choice to stay, you bet your ass he's staying. Wife won't want to move.

notorious
01-08-2017, 09:33 AM
If Reid manages to win the big one it will prob up his already juicy pay several million a year.

Reerun_KC
01-08-2017, 09:47 AM
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...
That would be devastating, more so than Reid.

KChiefs1
01-08-2017, 10:04 AM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1/7/14199528/andy-reid-vs-teams-who-won-by-14-points





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CaliforniaChief
01-08-2017, 10:06 AM
I won't believe it until one of you sees the negotiations happening at Wal Mart.

Reerun_KC
01-08-2017, 10:07 AM
I won't believe it until one of you sees the negotiations happening at Wal Mart.

In leawood or Olathe?

CaliforniaChief
01-08-2017, 10:10 AM
In leawood or Olathe?

Ooooh good point. Hadn't thought about that. I'll say Leawood.

Red Dawg
01-08-2017, 10:12 AM
Clark had better extend them both. Not to at this point would be just plain stupid. What owner just lets a GM and coach walk after winning 20 of 24. Andy drives me up the wall at times but we have Smith at QB and we win. What other coach could have pulled that off.

Jimmya
01-08-2017, 10:52 AM
Guy on the radio said only way Packers get rid of McCarthy is if the Pack loses today and they can find a way to lure Reid and Dorsey away from KC!

kcpasco
01-08-2017, 10:55 AM
Guy on the radio said only way Packers get rid of McCarthy is if the Pack loses today and they can find a way to lure Reid and Dorsey away from KC!

Reid is under contract for a 5th year. This shit is getting out of hand. The Chiefs start to have some sustained success and the entire league gotta shit on it.

Hammock Parties
01-08-2017, 11:03 AM
So is Reid going to have all the power if Dorsey leaves?

Not sure I like that.

BigRedChief
01-08-2017, 11:14 AM
Reid is under contract for a 5th year. This shit is getting out of hand. The Chiefs start to have some sustained success and the entire league gotta shit on it.isnt that normal? A little success and everyone wants your coach and GM?

Spott
01-08-2017, 11:17 AM
I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.

notorious
01-08-2017, 11:31 AM
I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.

Do you mean "porn for fat guys" or "fat guy porn"?

Pretty big difference between the two.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2017, 11:39 AM
This is complete and utter speculation by Rappaport.

As for Ballard, who in their right mind wants to work for that shitshow in Santa Clara?

Hell, Cleveland is a better gig.

notorious
01-08-2017, 11:41 AM
This is complete and utter speculation by Rappaport.

As for Ballard, who in their right mind wants to work for that shitshow in Santa Clara?

Hell, Cleveland is a better gig.

Pretty much.


Throw "edgy" shit out there to get attention. Manufacture news that isn't there. Carry on as if nothing happened.

Pretty standard stuff.

notorious
01-08-2017, 11:42 AM
All the responses expose how bad of an inferiority complex the fan base has, though.

Demonpenz
01-08-2017, 11:55 AM
The Chiefs should be on the cover of "Letting the good get in the way of great"

SuperBowl4
01-08-2017, 11:58 AM
has to remember how to manage the timeouts. In a close game and time running down, Reid's clock management skills are questionable. And remember the blown 28 point lead in the third quarter at Indianapolis in the playoffs? That still pisses me off! Other than that He is still way better than Herman Edwards or Todd Haley!

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-08-2017, 12:02 PM
Clark will be writing checks for Reid and Dorsey as quickly as he can reach for a pen.

rico
01-08-2017, 04:23 PM
I had no idea that Reid is only 58.

As long as the team keeps winning, he could be around for another 10 years.

I sometimes wonder if guys like Alex and Reid are going to ultimately be remembered as 49ers and Eagles or if they will be primarily remembered as Chiefs.

milkman
01-08-2017, 04:26 PM
I sometimes wonder if guys like Alex and Reid are going to ultimately be remembered as 49ers and Eagles or if they will be primarily remembered as Chiefs.

Reid will be remembered for both.

Smith's legacy will be defined by what he and the Chiefs do in these next couple of years, including postseason play.

kccrow
01-08-2017, 04:53 PM
Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

Would be my #1 guess. Packers' fans praise Ron Wolf. I can't fathom this not happening. The feeling around the area is that Ted Thompson hasn't been good enough of late, but his contract is through the 2019 draft. So, Thompson would have to either step down, or the Packers will watch Wolf go elsewhere. Rumors are that Thompson is considering stepping down into a lesser role, but we shall see.

Mr. Laz
01-08-2017, 06:09 PM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

kcmaxwell
01-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

I agree with this, but I'd rather they both stay.

BigRedChief
01-08-2017, 08:35 PM
I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.Obligatory , you were seeking and hoping to find fat guy porn in here?:eek:

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2017, 08:39 PM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Reid makes mistakes. He isn't perfect.

But he's 22-4. He won the first playoff game since the 1993.

Asking for perfection is just a little too much, IMO.

Every coach makes mistakes, including BB.

Inspector
01-08-2017, 08:42 PM
Andy Reid can extend quite a ways.

About an acre. If you pound him out flat.

Tombstone RJ
01-08-2017, 08:56 PM
Just fill the feed trough and push it over to Andy. He'll sign.

AussieChiefsFan
01-09-2017, 01:57 AM
Good.

-King-
01-09-2017, 02:03 AM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Reid the HC has still took us to the playoffs 3 out of 4 years including a playoff win and a #2 seed.

His "failures" as an OC dont even make a small dent in his coaching resume.
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carcosa
01-09-2017, 10:43 AM
If he wins the Super Bowl, give him a 30 year extension

If he doesn't, FIRE HIM AND DUMP HIM INTO THE SEA

CupidStunt
01-09-2017, 11:02 AM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Of course we have no idea how much that goes on upstairs is down to Reid. Everyone around here wanted to think Reid was pulling the strings a few years ago. Has that changed? Was it ever the case?

I'd rather just keep both. For as much suck as we as hardcore fans have witnessed, it amazes me how little we appreciate guys who radiate the opposite. Reid has done literally nothing but win everywhere he's been -- yes, not a Super Bowl, which is close to impossible with QBs like McNabb and Alex Whiff, but only a few coaches can sniff his resume -- while Dorsey appears to be a top 5 type GM in the moves he's made.

Why in God's name people think either or both moving could be even remotely positive is beyond me. Short of Clark somehow wooing Belichick or 1 or 2 other guys over, we would downgrade instantly.

All that said, neither is going anywhere. We gave Dorsey his first and big chance to be the boss. And he's done a heck of a job showing his stuff to date, but will have unfinished business short of a miracle and unlikely run the next few weeks. And Reid clearly looks happier and more settled than he's ever been. I don't think he'd leave for anything quite honestly. Money? A challenge? What? He's got it right in KC. Short of the mullethead idiots who would prefer we go back to the days of Herm Edwards or Todd Haley.

RealSNR
01-09-2017, 11:15 AM
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.


I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

Mr. Laz
01-09-2017, 12:09 PM
I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get
I think think it's easier for a good GM to "make" a coach look good so i take the good GM. Providing that he is a good personal type GM and not just a delegator.

Just can't underestimate the value of a guy who is good at bringing in talent to an organization.

Titty Meat
01-09-2017, 12:43 PM
What about GM? We don't have one as of Friday.

Dave Lane
01-09-2017, 12:52 PM
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

For what?

Dave Lane
01-09-2017, 12:55 PM
What about GM? We don't have one as of Friday.

We aren't going to re-up? Dorsey? WTF?

-King-
01-09-2017, 12:59 PM
For what?

Assistant special teams coach.
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CupidStunt
01-09-2017, 02:28 PM
What about GM? We don't have one as of Friday.

Of course we do. And he's about to be a top 3 paid GM, as he's earned and deserves.

Lzen
01-09-2017, 03:25 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1/7/14199528/andy-reid-vs-teams-who-won-by-14-points





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Sheesh, does that asshole ever post anything positive about the Chiefs? How about Andy's record after a bye week?

carcosa
01-09-2017, 05:04 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/1/7/14199528/andy-reid-vs-teams-who-won-by-14-points


WE R DOOMED

Chief Roundup
01-09-2017, 05:49 PM
We aren't going to re-up? Dorsey? WTF?

Nobody knows. It was mentioned that he hasn't signed his extension...Do we really know if one has been offered???? Wonder if he is wanting to wait and see how they do in the playoffs to maybe up his salary if we go deep or win the SB??? There are lots of possibilities.
We did block the 49ers from interviewing Ballard for their GM position. Could this be the reason????

I think Dorsey will stay in KC myself. We shall see.

Chief Roundup
01-09-2017, 05:50 PM
Sheesh, does that asshole ever post anything positive about the Chiefs? How about Andy's record after a bye week?

WE R DOOMED

That is just Way Clendler being the hater that he is.

Deberg_1990
01-09-2017, 06:08 PM
Who's the REAL genius behind this team? Dorsey, Reid or both ??

SAUTO
01-09-2017, 06:52 PM
Who's the REAL genius behind this team? Dorsey, Reid or both ??

Who fucking cares?


Pay the mother Fuckers

Dave Lane
01-09-2017, 07:19 PM
Who ****ing cares?


Pay the mother ****ers

This. But I think a lean to Dorsey.

-King-
01-09-2017, 07:41 PM
Who's the REAL genius behind this team? Dorsey, Reid or both ??

Reid. Yeah Dorsey makes good pickups but it's Reid who coaches them up and puts them in a position to succeed.
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Sweet Daddy Hate
01-09-2017, 08:47 PM
I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

Ideally, you keep the hot-shit GM and perform an actual SEARCH for a good HC instead of being a lazy-ass and promoting from within.
Andy, the coach who is very good at getting guys to buy-in, is not easily replaced. Andy, the game-day coach is easily replaced.

DJ's left nut
01-09-2017, 09:06 PM
I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

Reid is an amazing teacher and leader.

People spend too much time worrying about what a coach does from a tactical perspective when much of that heavy lifting is done by coordinators. A head coach's success/failure comes more from the tone he sets and the amount of 'buy in' he gets from his guys.

Andy Reid is revered in NFL circles by players and assistants alike. Andy Reid is an amazing head coach.

John Dorsey's a good GM but if I could only keep one of them, I'd keep Reid and allow him to continue teaching the young coaches on this staff. There's no reason he couldn't train up someone like Nagy to be his replacement. Those dividends will come not in how he learns tactics, etc... but how he learns preparation, organization and leadership. Those are the areas that Reid excels and it's where great coaches separate themselves from the Mike Martzes of the world.

carlos3652
01-09-2017, 09:21 PM
That is just Way Clendler being the hater that he is.

http://www.sbnation.com/users/Clay%20Wendler/blog

I dont see one positive thing from him lol -

DJ's left nut
01-09-2017, 09:32 PM
He's a miserable motherfucker.

How he manages to captivate the imaginations of people on this board is beyond me. He's Skip Bayless but somehow less intelligent.

GloucesterChief
01-09-2017, 09:38 PM
There really isn't anyone better that is available.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-09-2017, 09:47 PM
There really isn't anyone better that is available.

A recurring theme for all things KC, it seems...

RealSNR
01-09-2017, 11:09 PM
Reid is an amazing teacher and leader.

People spend too much time worrying about what a coach does from a tactical perspective when much of that heavy lifting is done by coordinators. A head coach's success/failure comes more from the tone he sets and the amount of 'buy in' he gets from his guys.

Andy Reid is revered in NFL circles by players and assistants alike. Andy Reid is an amazing head coach.

John Dorsey's a good GM but if I could only keep one of them, I'd keep Reid and allow him to continue teaching the young coaches on this staff. There's no reason he couldn't train up someone like Nagy to be his replacement. Those dividends will come not in how he learns tactics, etc... but how he learns preparation, organization and leadership. Those are the areas that Reid excels and it's where great coaches separate themselves from the Mike Martzes of the world.

Absolutely.

I know there's more than one way to skin a cat, but it makes me really wonder why Belichick is so successful. The guy I'm told has a great sense of humor when he's not in front of the media, but he's just got the personality of a fucking fencepost. But given his coaching staffs have been picked apart year by year since he got to New England, you gotta figure he does SOMETHING to be that needed leader

OldSchool
01-10-2017, 01:04 AM
Ree_rum once again advocating for the Browns model of building a team. Unless SB, throw out coach and QB. Doesn't matter WHO replaces them, but they need to be replaced.

Nothing new from the QB1 club.

OldSchool
01-10-2017, 01:06 AM
Ideally, you keep the hot-shit GM and perform an actual SEARCH for a good HC instead of being a lazy-ass and promoting from within.
Andy, the coach who is very good at getting guys to buy-in, is not easily replaced. Andy, the game-day coach is easily replaced.

Yeah, because that went well for the 49ers right? ROFL

mszymko
01-10-2017, 03:17 AM
yes.

Sweet Daddy Hate
01-10-2017, 07:38 AM
Yeah, because that went well for the 49ers right? ROFL

I should have spelled it out for you:

Search for a TALENTED AND COMPETENT Head Coach.

Nothing new from the Smith Fellowship Of Few, as usual.

HemiEd
01-10-2017, 09:07 AM
Do it!

milkman
01-11-2017, 09:52 PM
I generally believe that most head coaches are only as good as the man who provides the talent, which would explain why Jack Del Rio hasn't flamed out in Oakland yet.

However, it is clear that some coaches are better than others, and while Reid makes me want to pull my hair out, (and yes, you dumbasses, I do still have a headfull), he is clearly one of those better coaches.

I am not at all concerned about losing Dorsey.

Let's just get this shit done and move on.

J Diddy
01-11-2017, 10:04 PM
Sheesh, does that asshole ever post anything positive about the Chiefs? How about Andy's record after a bye week?

He likes to pick arbitrary numbers out of the sky and use them, pretending they have some meaning.

Truth be told there is no correlation here. Each game is it's individual measure of how the team performed. Trying to bunch them all together and say "Reid is 1-7 against teams he has lost to by 14 points" is dumb. It ignores variables such as injuries, weather, the ebb and flow of the celestial tides that interact with a team dynamic and whether or not a player/coach was hung over.

Rasputin
01-11-2017, 10:10 PM
Chiefs are knocking on Super Bowl door & hopefully bust it down but Dorsey and Reid work well together and built this thing so I don't see why either would want to leave.

I believe Andy Reid can work with anybody so Dorsey can be replaced but I don't see that he will just jump ship and go to another team.


I'd bet they both stay here not going anywhere. No way would Andy be giving up KC BBQ anyways.


Clark just has to write the checks and they will be here for another four years or longer.

MTG#10
06-22-2017, 02:16 PM
Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.


Dorsey is not going anywhere.

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