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Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 05:15 PM
Richard Perle, head of board that advises U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, resigns. Details to come.



uh oh.

Mr. Laz
03-27-2003, 05:17 PM
unpatriotic pinko commie ...

how dare you doubt or question this administration in any way.

NewChief
03-27-2003, 05:19 PM
About freaking time. Good lord, this one has been a long time in coming.

Skip Towne
03-27-2003, 05:20 PM
Ret's Rynch him.

NewChief
03-27-2003, 05:23 PM
Interestingly enough, I'd just read this Arianna Huffington article. It has some interesting stuff about Pearle, even though I imagine many here won't like some of the other slants she has on things:


Having your soufflé and eating it too
Richard Perle leads pack of public officials cashing in while still in office
For years now, political reformers have been railing against the unseemly -- and rampant -- practice of former government officials pouring through Washington's golden revolving door only to return a short time later as well-paid lobbyists, auctioning off their access and influence.

Well, compared to the latest trend, turns out those were the good old days. Today's new breed of public servants prefers to cash in while still stalking the halls of power and deeply involved in the highest levels of creating public policy.

Talk about eating your cake and having it too.

On second thought, better make that "eating your soufflé," because Richard Perle -- a close advisor to Don Rumsfeld whose side obsession has been to open a chain of soufflé restaurants -- has taken this double-dipping scam to a whole new level.

As chairman of the Pentagon's influential Defense Policy Board -- a position that is unpaid but still subject to government ethics rules -- Perle has been the frothing pit bull of the Bush administration's dogs of war. At the same time, he is the managing partner of Trireme Partners, a firm that specializes in homeland security and defense, and serves on the Board of Directors of Autonomy, a software company whose clients include the Defense and Homeland Security Departments.

Perle's latest deal finds him on the payroll of Global Crossing. The bankrupt telecommunications company is struggling to win government approval for its proposed sale to Asian investors. The Defense Department and the FBI are both opposed to the $250 million deal since it would place Global's fiber optic network -- which is used by the U.S. government -- under the control of Hutchison Whampoa, a Hong Kong firm with close ties to those freedom loving folks in Beijing.

Enter Richard Perle. Global is hoping he can convince his good buddies in the Defense Department to put their national security concerns aside and let the dicey deal go through. And Perle is clearly confident that he can deliver: In a highly unusual arrangement for a Washington gun-for-hire, he's agreed to make $600,000 of his $725,000 fee contingent on his bringing home the bacon.

I guess he figures: Hey, I convinced the president to toss aside 200 years of historical precedent and launch a preemptive war despite the trepidation of the majority of the world, how hard can it be to persuade a few government bureaucrats -- including my old pal Rummy -- to look the other way while I do an end-run around the public interest and bank a quick 725 grand? After all, you know what they say about casting Perles before swine.

This sleazy state of affairs has caught the eye -- and turned the stomach -- of Rep. John Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, who has called on the Defense Department to investigate whether Perle's business dealings constitute a conflict of interest.

During his years in the Reagan administration, Perle was dubbed the Prince of Darkness because of his hard-line stance on national security issues. But I suppose when you toss nearly three-quarters of a million dollars into the mix, the gloomy Prince is more than happy to click on his halogen nightlight and refashion his hard-line into a squiggle.

Adding insult to injury is the fact that Perle's windfall is coming from the coffers of a disgraced company that was among the worst of the corporate crooks. He's lining his pockets at the expense of the 10,000 laid-off Global employees who saw $32 million in severance pay wiped out -- and the shareholders who lost $57 billion in equity -- when the company declared bankruptcy.

The hubris is unfathomable. In legal documents drafted in connection with the proposed Global sale, Perle couldn't have been clearer about what the telecom company would be buying with its fat fee. "As chairman of the Defense Policy Board," declared Perle in an affidavit, "I have a unique perspective on and intimate knowledge of the national defense and security issues" likely to be raised by the governmental review of the sale. Knowledge, he pointedly pointed out, "that is not and could not be available" to the other lobbyists trying to get the deal approved.

In other words: "I've got Rumsfeld's ear and access to all sorts of super-top secret information that none of these other jokers on your payroll do. I know more. I can do more. So I'm worth more." And he had the unmitigated chutzpah to put this all in writing. And sign it. I guess this is what the Bush administration means by "transparency." And, to Perle's credit, the whole thing is pretty transparent.

But, of course, when reporters began sniffing around the deal, Perle's power plumage shriveled up faster than George in the "shrinkage" episode of Seinfeld.

First he tried the classic Bush administration Plan A -- the simple, 180 degree lie. He just told reporters that he never signed the statement. That didn't work, so onto Plan B -- claiming ignorance, admitting that he had signed it but insisting he hadn't read it. Finally, no doubt realizing this all sounded a bit too much like "the dog ate my affidavit," Perle declared that none of it mattered anyway, since his position on the DPB actually, now that you mention it, had "nothing to do" with the Global deal -- so how could he possibly be using his public office for private gain?

So when there's money to be had, Perle's position at the Defense Policy Board affords him "a unique perspective" on advising Global Crossing, but when ethical questions are raised, his Defense Policy Board post has "nothing to do" with his work for the telecom company.

And this is the guy our president is putting his trust in when it comes to waging war on Iraq?

Perle's abuse of the public interest is in a class by itself, but he is far from the only one in Washington shaping public policy from the inside while skirting the ethics rules designed to keep people from cashing in on their positions of power.

Among the most prominent of the double-dippers are Karen Hughes, who continues to serve as one of the president's most trusted advisers while pulling in $15,000 a month as a "consultant" to the Republican National Committee; RNC Chairman Marc Racicot, a double-dip pioneer, who famously decided to forgo tradition after being elected party chairman in 2002 and hang on to his day job as a high-powered corporate lobbyist for companies such as Enron; and Haley Barbour, the former head of the RNC, who has unabashedly decided to continue working as a lobbyist for clients such as Citigroup, DaimlerChrysler, Lockheed Martin, and Nestle at the same time he is running for Governor of Mississippi.

It seems that after failing in their attempts to privatize social security, Republicans have decided to privatize public service.

Brock
03-27-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by lazarus
unpatriotic pinko commie ...

how dare you doubt or question this administration in any way.

He isn't.


Perle became embroiled in a recent controversy stemming from a New Yorker magazine article that said he had lunch in January with controversial Saudi-born businessman Adnan Khashoggi and a Saudi industrialist.

The industrialist, Harb Saleh Zuhair, was interested in investing in a venture capital firm, Trireme Partners, of which Perle is a managing partner. Nothing ever came of the lunch in Marseilles; no investment was made. But the New Yorker story, written by Seymour M. Hersh, suggested that Perle, a longtime critic of the Saudi regime, was inappropriately mixing business and politics.

Perle called the report preposterous and ''monstrous.''

Perle, 61, was so strongly opposed to nuclear arms control agreements with the former Soviet Union during his days in the Reagan administration that he became known as ''the Prince of Darkness.''

FringeNC
03-27-2003, 05:32 PM
Perle, a great American. Victim of a cheap character assassination.

But hey, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are still in key positions.

NewChief
03-27-2003, 05:34 PM
Here's the official off the wires:

March 27, 2003 *|* WASHINGTON (AP) -- Richard Perle, a former Reagan administration Pentagon official, resigned Thursday as chairman of the Defense Policy Board that is a key advisory arm for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

In a brief written statement, Rumsfeld thanked Perle for his service and made no mention of why Perle resigned. He said he had asked Perle to remain as a member of the board.


"He has been an excellent chairman and has led the Defense Policy Board during an important time in our history," Rumsfeld said. "I should add that I have known Richard Perle for many years and know him to be a man of integrity and honor."

Perle was an assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration. He took the advisory board chairman's post early in Rumsfeld's tenure.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 05:42 PM
Any reference to weakness in our policy and govt. on this war, or inferences of activity illegal or, at best, subterfuge in these dealings with this guy and, most likely others, does NOT look good to the rest of the world. And neither do long sentences.

NewChief
03-27-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
Any reference to weakness in our policy and govt. on this war, or inferences of activity illegal or, at best, subterfuge in these dealings with this guy and, most likely others, does NOT look good to the rest of the world. And neither do long sentences.

Which is the exact reason he was asked to resign. The administration doesn't want to deal with his baggage anymore.

WilliamTheIrish
03-27-2003, 06:09 PM
.......... Perle has been the subject of much criticism. Most of it well deserved.
It's nice of Miss A. to point out Perle's cashing in on Global Crossing. Didn't MacAuliffe (DNC Chairman make incredible money off Global Crossing also?) Don't think he resigned. Then again he's not in the same position as Perle.
Anyway I would appreciate more articles like this that point out people who move from public service to public dole.
It's like having insider trading info. It's also BS

WilliamTheIrish
03-27-2003, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by lazarus
unpatriotic pinko commie ...

how dare you doubt or question this administration in any way.

..................... why your a friggin' twit.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 06:22 PM
Which is the exact reason he was asked to resign. The administration doesn't want to deal with his baggage anymore


just curious, do you think this means that Rummy and Dick(less) didn't know anything about the actions he had taken? Isn't that a bit silly? That's akin, to me, to Reagan claiming he could not recall....

That's the famous depo trick for which you can thank lawyers. It sounds nice to say they just found this out and launched him, but it's more realistic to say WE just found out, and they launched him to save face.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 06:24 PM
wait, if I'm a pinko, then how could I be a commie, really? I'd be a RED! Unless you washed me with whites, then I'd be pinko, of course, but I haven't done anything that unpatriotic in YEARS.

Rausch
03-27-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
wait, if I'm a pinko, then how could I be a commie, really? I'd be a RED! Unless you washed me with whites, then I'd be pinko, of course, but I haven't done anything that unpatriotic in YEARS.

What you got against crackers, bidge?

WilliamTheIrish
03-27-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
wait, if I'm a pinko, then how could I be a commie, really? I'd be a RED! Unless you washed me with whites, then I'd be pinko, of course, but I haven't done anything that unpatriotic in YEARS.

.... The Red Planet again?:)

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 06:27 PM
what can I say...I miss home.

Logical
03-27-2003, 06:30 PM
March 27, 2003 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- Richard Perle, a former Reagan administration Pentagon official, resigned Thursday as chairman of the Defense Policy Board that is a key advisory arm for efense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

In a brief written statement, Rumsfeld thanked Perle for his service and made no mention of why Perle resigned. He said he had asked Perle to remain as a member of the board.

"He has been an excellent chairman and has led the Defense Policy Board during an important time in our history," Rumsfeld said. "I should add that I have known Richard Perle for many years and know him to be a man of integrity and honor."

Perle was an assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration. He took the advisory
board chairman's post early in Rumsfeld's tenure.

In other words this thread is much ado about nothing.

Nothing to see here, nothing of even remote interest. Just a liberal effort to try to find scandal where none exists, what a suprise.

WilliamTheIrish
03-27-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
what can I say...I miss home.

.............. in my book. When you can take some good natured ribbing and laugh, it shows good character.

Keep posting dude.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 06:32 PM
In other words this thread id much ado about nothing.

ROFL

Oh...My...

You brought your head out of the sand for THAT response?


edit: BTW--"id"? Interesting choice of words...

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 06:35 PM
in my book. When you can take some good natured ribbing and laugh, it shows good character.

thanks William, I feel the same way, and for the record, I've never been close to offended by your posts to me, as I can usually read subtext. Wait, is that physically possible to do?

Anywho, I'm glad someone understands...

Logical
03-27-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit


ROFL

Oh...My...

You brought your head out of the sand for THAT response?


edit: BTW--"id"? Interesting choice of words...

Check again it is already corrected, you never make typing errors?

As to head out of the sand, get real all the best people in government at this level go back and forth whether they are liberal or conservative are you so blind you have missed that. It has only been going on since at least the days of FDR. Course liberals make a habit of being outraged by the ordinary and common and have no problem with terror sponsored by people like Saddam as long as they can hug their trees, beat their chest about PC violations and cower in the corner if War is suggested.

I suggest you pull your head out of your Azz and try the sand it will provide you a better life.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-27-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
wait, if I'm a pinko, then how could I be a commie, really? I'd be a RED! Unless you washed me with whites, then I'd be pinko, of course, but I haven't done anything that unpatriotic in YEARS.

For god's sake, man!!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL BOARD!
And don't say I'm trying to stir the pot here. I'm sure there are many planeteers who feel the same way, but won't come out and say it. I realize non-football topics are what gives this fine board it's appeal, but after reading this thread I really think some people are going overboard with the politics.

No matter how much politics is discussed, this is still a board for Chiefs chat. Again, THIS IS A FOOTBALL BB. Howabout some more football?

:banghead:

Brock
03-27-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


For god's sake, man!!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL BOARD!
And don't say I'm trying to stir the pot here. I'm sure there are many planeteers who feel the same way, but won't come out and say it. I realize non-football topics are what gives this fine board it's appeal, but after reading this thread I really think some people are going overboard with the politics.

No matter how much politics is discussed, this is still a board for Chiefs chat. Again, THIS IS A FOOTBALL BB. Howabout some more football?

:banghead:

How about instead of bitching about what other people post, you post some of what you want to see?

WilliamTheIrish
03-27-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Brock Landers


How about instead of bitching about what other people post, you post some of what you want to see?

Damn Brock, ya sunk him like the Armada.

JOhn
03-27-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


For god's sake, man!!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL BOARD!
And don't say I'm trying to stir the pot here. I'm sure there are many planeteers who feel the same way, but won't come out and say it. I realize non-football topics are what gives this fine board it's appeal, but after reading this thread I really think some people are going overboard with the politics.

No matter how much politics is discussed, this is still a board for Chiefs chat. Again, THIS IS A FOOTBALL BB. Howabout some more football?

:banghead:

THIS IS THE PLANET.


If you don't like what you see, you can exit if you wish.

FYI This is the off season, and there is VERY little to discuss football related. Besides which our country is in the middle of a war, were our young men & women are fighting and dieing. WOuld you have us ignore that fact?

Rausch
03-27-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Brock Landers


How about instead of bitching about what other people post, you post some of what you want to see?

Logical
03-27-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by WilliamTheIrish


Damn Brock, ya sunk him like the Armada.

ROFL

Is Spaniard JD? Sure seems like it. I have Prez on iggy do I need to add Spaniard as well? I saw Sky suggest it the other day but no one confirmed it?

Rausch
03-27-2003, 07:00 PM
Oh, and just to clarify, I want to see "Buffy" taking it from behind, not Jack Black's "oh face."

;)

JOhn
03-27-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Logical


ROFL

Is Spaniard JD? Sure seems like it. I have Prez on iggy do I need to add Spaniard as well? I saw Sky suggest it the other day but no one confirmed it? :thumb:

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 07:02 PM
Check again it is already corrected, you never make typing errors?

Obviously, you missed the point. I could not care less about spelling errors, nor have I ever pointed them out. I was merely commenting on an issue over your head.

As to the rest of your post...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.:rolleyes:

Never Ever Ever Again
03-27-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by JOhn


THIS IS THE PLANET.


If you don't like what you see, you can exit if you wish.

FYI This is the off season, and there is VERY little to discuss football related. Besides which our country is in the middle of a war, were our young men & women are fighting and dieing. WOuld you have us ignore that fact?

No, I wouldn't have you ignore that fact. I would just have you take it somewhere else if it were up to me. Thats just my opinion, and I feel I'm entitled to it. Opinions are what these boards are all about. Some people feel the need to belittle someone if they don't agree with their (opinion). Do you anyone like that?

Please excuse me if I fail to respond to your next reply. I feel that arguing with one another can get quite boring after a while.

Chiefs in 2003.

Logical
03-27-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit


Obviously, you missed the point. I could not care less about spelling errors, nor have I ever pointed them out. I was merely commenting on an issue over your head.

As to the rest of your post...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.:rolleyes:


When your head makes it to the level of my azz you will have increased your knowledge base a thousand fold. Until then prattle on in your benign lack of political depth.

JOhn
03-27-2003, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


No, I wouldn't have you ignore that fact. I would just have you take it somewhere else if it were up to me. Thats just my opinion, and I feel I'm entitled to it. Opinions are what these boards are all about. Some people feel the need to belittle someone if they don't agree with their (opinion). Do you anyone like that?

Please excuse me if I fail to respond to your next reply. I feel that arguing with one another can get quite boring after a while.

Chiefs in 2003.

Listen JD, this is the planet. IF you knew the history you would know your comments are ....how shall I say this....ridiculous?

Oh btw, nice try at flaming me, but just say what you want dumbass.

(there is that clear enough JD PREZ)

Logical
03-27-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


No, I wouldn't have you ignore that fact. I would just have you take it somewhere else if it were up to me. Thats just my opinion, and I feel I'm entitled to it. Opinions are what these boards are all about. Some people feel the need to belittle someone if they don't agree with their (opinion). Do you anyone like that?

Please excuse me if I fail to respond to your next reply. I feel that arguing with one another can get quite boring after a while.

Chiefs in 2003.

Before I put you on iggy under your new name let me just say that it is the opinion of many, many posters on this Bulletin Board that we would all be better off without any of your opinions on football or otherwise. When it comes to you suggesting what others should or should not post about I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself as this is the Planet. Of course that is just my opinion.

JOhn
03-27-2003, 07:09 PM
Oh and one more thing JD, this isn't your board, and it isn't up to you.
Thank God.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 07:10 PM
When your head makes it to the level of my azz

And make your man jealous? In your dreams, sweetlips.

Logical
03-27-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit


And make your man jealous? In your dreams, sweetlips.

Oh gay smaque, amazed a liberal would resort to such a politically incorrect form.

Of course being as you probably cannot even get your hand to agree to pleasure you, I would guess that anything remotely resembling affection would be welcomed by you.

Brock
03-27-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard
I would just have you take it somewhere else if it were up to me.

It's not, nor will it ever be.

You have your very own dictatorship to run, and you're obviously out of your element in a free society.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 07:16 PM
awww touched a nerve. I'm sorry, Logical. I'll try to be more like you, as we all should.

And my hand says hi, and thanks for thinking of it.

Logical
03-27-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
awww touched a nerve. I'm sorry, Logical. I'll try to be more like you, as we all should.

And my hand says hi, and thanks for thinking of it.

Thanks I missed it's gentle touch as it wiped my azz after a good shit. Guess your hand must have been demoted from restrooms to mortuaries, where the rest of you fit in better.

Chief Ramit
03-27-2003, 07:21 PM
oh, gay smaque...\


typical hypocrite.

Enjoy your evening, sir. I have a date with Rosie, evidently.:LOL:

Logical
03-27-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Chief Ramit
oh, gay smaque...\


typical hypocrite.

Enjoy your evening, sir. I have a date with Rosie, evidently.:LOL:

Gay smaque???? I guess in your world everyone does not need to have their azz wiped. Well I guess if you are used to living in sh!t leaving it on your azz is no big deal.

DanT
03-27-2003, 07:57 PM
The St. Petersburg Times published this editorial yesterday:

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/03/26/Opinion/Ignoring_the_generals.shtml

A Times Editorial


Ignoring the generals
Civilian ideologues in the Bush administration made optimistic assumptions about the war in Iraq that may have endangered our troops on the ground.

© St. Petersburg Times
published March 26, 2003


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Richard Perle is the guru of the civilian ideologues who are the architects of the Bush administration's Iraqi war plans. In the months leading up to war, Perle and his allies in the administration pressed for military action by painting a vividly optimistic scenario. Vice President Dick Cheney, a longtime associate of Perle, said American soldiers would be "greeted as liberators" by the people of Iraq. And Perle said most of Saddam Hussein's troops would surrender rather than fight, while Iraqi opponents of Hussein would lead an armed uprising to topple his regime with little or no help from U.S. forces.

Perle, who serves as chairman of the Pentagon's advisory Defense Policy Board, envisioned before the war that U.S. forces would make "a much more modest effort" than in the 1991 Gulf War, needed only to "assist Iraqis in freeing their country." At times, Perle predicted that no U.S. ground forces would be required. At most, he said, only about 40,000 U.S. ground troops would be needed.

Our political and military leaders say the early days of the ground war are going according to plan, but events clearly are not playing out as Perle and his civilian proteges predicted. U.S. forces have met stiff resistance in their advance toward Baghdad, and the civilian reaction to our troops' presence has been mixed at best. Meanwhile, the anticipated anti-Saddam insurgency within Iraq has not yet materialized on a significant scale.

As a result, our ground forces have been left more vulnerable than necessary. Several of the military commanders of the first Gulf War say the current U.S. invasion force of a single heavy division is too small. "In my judgment," said retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who commanded the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division during the 1991 war, "there should have been a minimum of two heavy divisions and an armored cavalry regiment on the ground."

Other veteran Gulf War commanders agree with McCaffrey, and their views are not mere second-guessing. Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, who commanded U.S. forces in the 1991 war, said months ago that he was "somewhat nervous at some of the pronouncements (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld has made." Schwarzkopf said he feared that Rumsfeld and his civilian advisers had "disregard(ed) the Army" in establishing their quick-strike plans.

A cornerstone of American democracy is our tradition of civilian control over our armed forces. President Bush and other members of his administration, with the advice and consent of congressional leaders, are ultimately responsible for determining when and how our military forces will be deployed. That is as it should be.

However, the lives of American soldiers are put at risk if our battlefield plans are based on the political assumptions of civilian ideologues instead of the expertise of our military leaders. Some of those ideologues within and outside the White House painted a scenario of an easy military victory in Iraq because it fit their broader political goals. Our military planning needs to be based on more clear-eyed calculations.

All Americans hope that the war in Iraq can be concluded as quickly and successfully as possible, minimizing casualties among American troops and Iraqi civilians. If some of the assumptions on which our military plans were based have turned out to be flawed, our government should waste no time in changing plans accordingly and bolstering our forces in ways that can hasten military victory and serve our long-term security interests.

mikey23545
03-27-2003, 08:25 PM
Logical, you are just too much for Chief Ramit to cope with....I am laughing my ass off at your fileting of him....

:LOL: :toast:

Never Ever Ever Again
03-27-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Logical


Before I put you on iggy under your new name let me just say that it is the opinion of many, many posters on this Bulletin Board that we would all be better off without any of your opinions on football or otherwise. When it comes to you suggesting what others should or should not post about I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself as this is the Planet. Of course that is just my opinion.

If the admins thought they would be better off not having me here, then I wouldn't be posting to you right now. What I suggest to you is that you put me on iggy as soon as you can.
I'm responding to you after I said I would not to inform you that trying to belittle me is futile. Your little insults and innuendoes show me that you have problem with my strength, and your weakness. You have me licking my chops like a hungry Lion as he eyeballs his prey. Be very thankful that I am bound by restrictions and my own word that I will be taking a passive approach to any negative situations that might arise during my visits to this BB. Thank goodness for the internet for without it, what chance would you have being this disrespectful to my face? I'll answer that. No chance at all. And I think you know that and it disturbs you. But then again, thats just my *opinion*.

Brock
03-27-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard
You have me licking my chops like a hungry Lion as he eyeballs his prey.

Stop staring at his crotch, dude.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-27-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Brock Landers


Stop staring at his crotch, dude.

Most likely that would be more of a snack than a meal, dude.
:LOL:

How things, Brock? Good to see you, man.

:toast:

Logical
03-27-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


If the admins thought they would be better off not having me here, then I wouldn't be posting to you right now. What I suggest to you is that you put me on iggy as soon as you can.
I'm responding to you after I said I would not to inform you that trying to belittle me is futile. Your little insults and innuendoes show me that you have problem with my strength, and your weakness. You have me licking my chops like a hungry Lion as he eyeballs his prey. Be very thankful that I am bound by restrictions and my own word that I will be taking a passive approach to any negative situations that might arise during my visits to this BB. Thank goodness for the internet for without it, what chance would you have being this disrespectful to my face? I'll answer that. No chance at all. And I think you know that and it disturbs you. But then again, thats just my *opinion*.


:rolleyes: Really, I learned when I was 11 that those who talk like you just did in that post usually suffer from severe insecurities and a need to believe themselves something they will never be, unlike others I have no reason to trade barbs or try to belittle you. If you felt slighted by my last post perhaps you need to reflect on what is missing in your psyche that would turn what should be fairly obvious that you are not well perceived into some sort of statement of belittlement. If I were to desire to belittle you then I would not be nearly so subtle or indirect. Frankly I have the financial resources and law enforcement connections to not have to worry about your attempts at creating drama for your personal amusement. However, that sort of thing is not of interest to me and frankly is a waste of time and resources that are better saved and used for creating good for those I know and care about.

Have a nice life JD and hopefully in the future you will find some way to find the missing ingredient in your life that leaves you inclined towards being vindicative and meglomaniacal. May peace of mind some day find you and may that make your life better.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 12:55 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Logical
[B]


:rolleyes: Really, I learned when I was 11 that those who talk like you just did in that post usually suffer from severe insecurities and a need to believe themselves something they will never be, unlike others I have no reason to trade barbs or try to belittle you. If you felt slighted by my last post perhaps you need to reflect on what is missing in your psyche that would turn what should be fairly obvious that you are not well perceived into some sort of statement of belittlement. If I were to desire to belittle you then I would not be nearly so subtle or indirect. Frankly I have the financial resources and law enforcement connections to not have to worry about your attempts at creating drama for your personal amusement. However, that sort of thing is not of interest to me and frankly is a waste of time and resources that are better saved and used for creating good for those I know and care about.

"The missing ingredient in my life"? Do you all copy eachother's material? If I had a dollar for every time I heard that one, I would have quite a bulge in my pocket right now. As far as law enforvcement goes, I know the letter of the law quite well. Do you honestly think I would waste my time finding & calling someone over a minor spat over the internet? Note the word "minor". It would have to be something done much much worse than this. Obviously what you've heard about what was done to me by others has been downplayed to the point where people believe I'll go off at the sound of a pin dropping. But if I did choose to do anything, you wouldn't be able to do a darned thing about it & I think you know that.

So why don't you tell me about your financial resources? It's funny, but I happen to have a few schillings myself. But I like to better call it the great motivator. There's no end to the lengths you can go when you have financial independence. Just remember, if you need to become aggressive, feel free. Everything you said about something missing in my psyche is exactly what I said to you in my last post. You need to take shots at me in order to cloak your weakness & build up your own weak self esteem. Like you said, it's not really worth it. I'm up against "Logical". I should know better. Let's not forget, this is just my opinion.

Logical
03-28-2003, 01:50 AM
Spaniard,

"The missing ingredient in my life"? Do you all copy eachother's material? If I had a dollar for every time I heard that one, I would have quite a bulge in my pocket right now.

I guess if you weren't either an impotent man or a man of small stature you could have a large bulge in your pants without the money! This will be the only barb I offer you unless you beg for more like the whiney little masochistic man biatch I suspect you really are.

Have a nice night.

Rausch
03-28-2003, 01:58 AM
Dude, don't be a tard.

Posting under multiple handles is lame and unnecessary. Have the nads to use a handle and stick with it. Be the Pres, for better or worse.

I'm not even going to bother with your post. This time....

Logical
03-28-2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by BRAD_CAUDLE
Dude, don't be a tard.

Posting under multiple handles is lame and unnecessary. Have the nads to use a handle and stick with it. Be the Pres, for better or worse.

I'm not even going to bother with your post. This time....

Brad, why do you suppose he hangs around here when it is clear that pretty much everyone either detests him or suffers his presence with impatience like the little freaking chihuahua nipping at their heels. He seems to want to be kicked or something.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-28-2003, 02:04 AM
I think the reason he's posting under a different name (correct me if I'm wrong) is because he got banned under his original name a couple of days ago. I was skimming the BB and I think I came across that, although I'm not totally sure. Just throwin' stuff out.

Logical
03-28-2003, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Suzy
I think the reason he's posting under a different name (correct me if I'm wrong) is because he got banned under his original name a couple of days ago. I was skimming the BB and I think I came across that, although I'm not totally sure. Just throwin' stuff out.

You are probably correct, he does not seem to have the intellect to realize he is unwanted. Matter of fact it appears he has very little intellect at all.

Redcoats58
03-28-2003, 02:06 AM
The dude has a power trip,and tries to throw his control issues around here.He can't face the fact that this board blows his site out of the water.I think in some ways he thinks he can be the moderator here also,problem is none of us fall for that petty sh*t.

Rausch
03-28-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Logical


Brad, why do you suppose he hangs around here when it is clear that pretty much everyone either detests him or suffers his presence with impatience like the little freaking chihuahua nipping at their heels.

For some reason I'm reminded of the Kaiser's painters in france....

Logical
03-28-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by Redcoats58
The dude has a power trip,and tries to throw his control issues around here.He can't face the fact that this board blows his site out of the water.I think in some ways he thinks he can be the moderator here also,problem is none of us fall for that petty sh*t.

Is it just me or does he remind others of the brown toothed redneck in deliverance who tries to hide the insecurity in his own masculinity by trying to find someone weak (Ned Beatty type) praying he can make them squeal like a pig. If he would ever satisfy that woman of his he might grow out of this sad pathetic existence. Obviously he does not know how to curl her toes.;) :LOL: ROFL

Logical
03-28-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by BRAD_CAUDLE


For some reason I'm reminded of the Kaiser's painters in france....

:thumb:;)

Redcoats58
03-28-2003, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Logical

Obviously he does not know how to curl her toes.;) :LOL: ROFL The only way he could make his womans toes curl is by banging her with her panty hose still on(if you catch my drift).:)

Logical
03-28-2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Redcoats58
The only way he could make his womans toes curl is by banging her with her panty hose still on(if you catch my drift).:)

Would 1 inch even make a dent let alone a tug?;)

Redcoats58
03-28-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Logical


Would 1 inch even make a dent let alone a tug?;) :LOL:

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by BRAD_CAUDLE
Dude, don't be a tard.

Posting under multiple handles is lame and unnecessary. Have the nads to use a handle and stick with it. Be the Pres, for better or worse.

I'm not even going to bother with your post. This time....

As far as having nads goes, I think you know better than that.

;)

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by Logical


Is it just me or does he remind others of the brown toothed redneck in deliverance who tries to hide the insecurity in his own masculinity by trying to find someone weak (Ned Beatty type) praying he can make them squeal like a pig. If he would ever satisfy that woman of his he might grow out of this sad pathetic existence. Obviously he does not know how to curl her toes.;) :LOL: ROFL

My I seemed to have had no trouble getting to your inner sanctum, Logical. I think it's quite precious how you need to insult ones family members when things don't go your way, or someone disagrees with you. I also enjoy the fact that you need your friends to hold your little hand.

Please continue your dance for me, Logical.

:toast: :LOL: :thumb: Taco Callahan :fire: Stooges

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Redcoats58
The dude has a power trip,and tries to throw his control issues around here.He can't face the fact that this board blows his site out of the water.I think in some ways he thinks he can be the moderator here also,problem is none of us fall for that petty sh*t.


Ahhhh, your such a sweet little fellow!!


:D

Ebolapox
03-28-2003, 06:29 AM
ROFL :LOL:

jd hasn't changed one bit...

you talk about us having no new material??? how many times have I seen 'dance for me, puppet' spoken by you??? or when was the last time I heard the phrase "needs your friends to hold your hand"... oh, that's right, last time you engaged me in 'battle', bro... yeah, about half a week ago, thereabouts...

seriously, the smack you throw is majorly weak... we know you're rich beyond your wildest dreams, we know that your wife is happy, we know that your dog is very VERY happy too, and that you're a beloved man by everyone who knows you... but whoever brought out the fact that you're a megelomaniac, that probably isn't too far off

wait, I'm just about ready to dance... yep, I'm dancing... dancing in the flames... (TIC)

-EBOLA-

Ebolapox
03-28-2003, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Spaniard



Ahhhh, your such a sweet little fellow!!


:D

ahhh... the beloved prezisms that we all love... 'your'... that should be you're (you are such sounds much better)

haven't seen you use bro yet... man, you used to use 'bro' as much as a convention of black panthers...

your mighty generals haven't led you into war... oh shit, that's right... your mighty generals are too busy leaving your board because of 'YOUR' bungling ways (note: correct use of your)

oh, your (another correct use of 'your') mighty arsenal, my friend... where's that mighty arsenal??? oh, I remember... it's firmly entrenched up your ass

shall I go on??? how about your tax lawyer??? wait, didn't we all have a huge surprise coming last summer??? oh yeah... that never materialized... and what of all the retribution for everything anyone has ever done to you???

hmmm... so far the only 'punishment' we're getting is having to deal with your lame ass

-EBOLA-...welcome to iggy

NewChief
03-28-2003, 09:16 AM
I wonder if statements like these contributed to Pearle's resignation?

Richard Perle, recently resigned chairman of the Defense Policy Board, in a PBS interview July 11, 2002:

"Saddam is much weaker than we think he is. He's weaker militarily. We know he's got about a third of what he had in 1991."

"But it's a house of cards. He rules by fear because he knows there is no underlying support. Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse at the first whiff of gunpowder. "

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard



Ahhhh, your such a sweet little fellow!!


:D


The only reason you bring it here is because you have someone to hold your hand. If you got this mornings email then I can see why your a bit upset. Why don't we end our post with welcome to iggy! hahahahahahahaha!! You couldn't ignore me if your pathetic life depended on it!

As far as any retribution that I had mentioned, I think you maybe mistaken when you say that it never came to pass.

very mistaken! :spank: :fire:

Ebolapox
03-28-2003, 12:20 PM
hey beanie segal... I can't see your responses... 'have a nice day'

:)

-EBOLA-...all in all, you're just another brick in the wall

Logical
03-28-2003, 12:20 PM
Did the Spaniard just threaten himself, it sure appears that he did. I wonder if the moderators would ban someone for threatening themselves?:LOL: ROFL

Originally posted by Spaniard
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Originally posted by Spaniard

Ahhhh, your such a sweet little fellow!!

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The only reason you bring it here is because you have someone to hold your hand. If you got this mornings email then I can see why your a bit upset. Why don't we end our post with welcome to iggy! hahahahahahahaha!! You couldn't ignore me if your pathetic life depended on it!

As far as any retribution that I had mentioned, I think you maybe mistaken when you say that it never came to pass.

very mistaken! :spank: :fire:

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by EBOLA
hey beanie segal... I can't see your responses... 'have a nice day'

:)

-EBOLA-...all in all, you're just another brick in the wall

You know how that goes, dude.

:LOL:

Pennywise
03-28-2003, 12:34 PM
Damn this is entertaining!

Ebolapox
03-28-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Logical
Did the Spaniard just threaten himself, it sure appears that he did. I wonder if the moderators would ban someone for threatening themselves?:LOL: ROFL



ROFL :LOL:

hey spick, err, umm, spaniard... is THIS the email you sent???

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?IN_GOOD_FAITH?= From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?destinychild1978@libero.it </ym/Compose?To=destinychild1978@libero.it&YY=77070&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>?=" <destinychild1978@libero.it </ym/Compose?To=destinychild1978@libero.it&YY=77070&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>> Date: Tue, March 18, 2003 6:35 am To: CONFIDENCIAL HELLO . I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOU BEEN MY MATCH I AM VERY HAPPY TO MEET YOU AND INTERACT WITH YOU HOPE THAT AT THE END SUCCESS WILL TAKES HIS PLACE BETWEEN US. MY FULL NAME IS ST.MARIA JOSEPH ADAMA WITH MY BROTHER CALVIN WE ARE FROM SOUTH AFRICA AND OUR FATHER BASED IN IVORY COAST AND HE IS A SUCCESFULL BUSINESSMAN BUT WE LOST OUR MOTHER TWO YEARS AGO. I COULD HAVE CONTACTED YOU SINCE BUT IS DUE TO SOME SITUATION THAT IS BEYONG MY CAPACITY THAT I WANT TO SETTLE HERE IN ABIDJAN THE CAPITAL CITY OF IVORY COAST. UP TILL NOW I HAVEN'T GOT ANY SOLUTION, BUT MY MIND TELLS ME THAT WHY CAN'T I TELL YOU MAYBE YOU CAN RESQUE NOR ASSIST ME BUT CAN YOU BELIEVE MY STORY BECAUSE EVIL PEOPLE HAVE SPOIL THE FACE OF THE GOOD MAN. MY FATHER WITH HIS FOREIGN BUSINESS PARTNER AND SOME ORGANIZATION PLAN TO OPEN A GOLD AND DIAMOND REFINARY CLOSED TO THE BORDER BETWEEN IVORY COAST AND LIBERIA. WHEN THEY ESTIMATE THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS 35.000.000 US DOLLAR WHICH MY FATHER BROUGHT AND LODGED IN A BANK HERE IN IVORY COAST AND SAVED IT IN AN SUSPENSE ACCOUNT. AFTER THREE MONTH WHEN MY FATHER AND HIS FOREIGN ASSOCIATE IS COMING BACK FROM THE SITE TO THE CITY THEY GOT AND ACCIDENT THAT TOOK THE WHOLE LIFE OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THAT CAR INCLUDING MY FATHER. NOW I AND MY BROTHER CAN DOWN HERE IN IVORY COAST TO LOCATE THE BANK AND COMFIRM THE EXISTANCE OF THE MONEY WHICH WE FIND OUT IT ALL REAL BUT UNFURTUNATELY THE BANK DID NOT ALLOW US TO WITHDREW THE FUND BECAUSE IT WAS DEPOSITED IN A SUSPENSE ACCOUNT AND ONLY THE BENEFICIARY CAN COME FOR THE WITHDRAWER, WHY BECAUSE FOREIGN PARTNER IS REGISTERED IN THE LODGEMENT RECEIPT AS THE BENEFICIARY.WHEN I GOT THIS IMFORMATION I DON'T KNOWWHAT TO DO AGAIN AND CONFUSED ABOUT WHO IS THE FOREIGN PARTNER THAT CAN ASSIST ME TO TRANSFER THIS FUND OUT INTO ANOTHER DIFFERENT ACCOUNT INORDER TO HAVE A EASY ACCESS TO WITHDRAW THEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS MAY SOUND TO YOU. ME AND MY BROTHER DO NG BUT IF YOU CAN ASSIST ME I WILL BE SO MUCH GLAD AND HAPPY.I WANT YOU TO STAND AS MY LATE FATHER FOREIGN BUSINESS PARTNER AND THE BENEFICIARY TO THE FUND, PROVIDED AN ACCOUNT TO TRANSFER THIS FUND,LOOK FOR A PROFITABLE VENTURE TO INVEST THE MONEY WHEN WE COME OVER TO YOUR COUNTRY AND I WANT YOU TO PROMISE ME THAT YOU WILL NOT SIT ON THE MONEY WHEN FINALLY TRANSFERED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT. I HAVE MADE UP ME MIND WITH MY BROTHER TO GIVE TO YOU 25% OF THE TOTAL FUND FOR YOUR ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT AND ANOTHER 5% FOR ANY ESPENSES THAT MAY OCCUR DURING AND AFTER THE TRANSACTION. THAT IS ALL MY PROBLEM. YOU CAN CONTACT MY WITH MY EMAIL OR CALL calvin_adama@yahoo.com </ym/Compose?To=calvin_adama@yahoo.com&YY=77070&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b> or 0022507730368 AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVED THIS MAIL. BEST REGARDS ST.MARIA AND CALVIN


-EBOLA-

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Logical
Did the Spaniard just threaten himself, it sure appears that he did. I wonder if the moderators would ban someone for threatening themselves?:LOL: ROFL



yuk! yuk! har! har! har!

Whatever.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by EBOLA


ROFL :LOL:

hey spick, err, umm, spaniard... is THIS the email you sent???




-EBOLA-

I thought you had me on iggy?

Like I said, not if your life depended on it, little fella.

:toast:

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by PennyWise
Damn this is entertaining!

:D

Pennywise
03-28-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


:D


{{{LMAO}}}

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by PennyWise



{{{LMAO}}}

What happened to the killer clown in that Steven King classic? Ahhh, you know the one!!



;)

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by EBOLA


ROFL :LOL:

hey spick, err, umm, spaniard... is THIS the email you sent???




-EBOLA-

Now you're reffering to me as a spic!!! really>> LMAO!

:LOL:

stevieray
03-28-2003, 02:17 PM
Is the Spaniard really JD...?

If so, looks like my pegging him as a drama queen is dead on.

Pennywise
03-28-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


What happened to the killer clown in that Steven King classic? Ahhh, you know the one!!

;)

Yeah I know It.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by stevieray
Is the Spaniard really JD...?

If so, looks like my pegging him as a drama queen is dead on.

I replied to a post from Logical about talking more football and less politics, and I got CREAMED.

Never Ever Ever Again
03-28-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by PennyWise


Yeah I know It.

Good!

Logical
03-28-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Spaniard


I replied to a post from Logical about talking more football and less politics, and I got CREAMED.

Actually little dodo you responded to ChiefRamit not me, you really need to take a memory course.

Originally posted by Spaniard


Originally posted by Chief Ramit
wait, if I'm a pinko, then how could I be a commie, really? I'd be a RED! Unless you washed me with whites, then I'd be pinko, of course, but I haven't done anything that unpatriotic in YEARS.

For god's sake, man!!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL BOARD!
And don't say I'm trying to stir the pot here. I'm sure there are many planeteers who feel the same way, but won't come out and say it. I realize non-football topics are what gives this fine board it's appeal, but after reading this thread I really think some people are going overboard with the politics.

No matter how much politics is discussed, this is still a board for Chiefs chat. Again, THIS IS A FOOTBALL BB. Howabout some more football? :banghead:

LVNHACK
03-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Jim..........Quit playing on the little kids board.............:p