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KCTitus
09-08-2000, 10:11 AM
Gaz raised an interesting question in his thread.

On nearly every play, Manning was changing the play at the line of scrimmage, and the Colts were killing our defense in the opening plays of the game. We are just lucky they forgot to score when they were down close.

We know the plays we ran were called from the skybox. If Grbac can see the play needs changed, then why does he not override the skybox? Could it be that Grbac doesn't know if the play will work either? We know fron the Bronco's playoff loss, when the headsets failed, Grbac didn't know how to take controll.

I didn't tape the game, but I am almost sure Manning audibled nearly everyone of his first 6 plays. I wonder (for those of you who taped the game), how many of our first 6 plays were audibles?

Snapper
09-08-2000, 10:15 AM
I agree, I wanted to talk about this after the game. Mannign always was changing the play, he was in total control. I think if Elvis should be able to do this, if not he should be gone.

Hoover

Devin Vierth
09-08-2000, 10:16 AM
I thought last year, Grbac wasn't allowed to really audible because of the leash?? I would find it hard to believe the leash wouldn't be on to a degree this year either




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htismaqe
09-08-2000, 10:24 AM
Coogs,

I seem to remember Gun saying that those first six runs were JR's calls.

You bring up a good question. What I want to know is how much audibling is included in this offensive scheme?

Luz
i have trouble believing that grbac is not capable of it...

KCTitus
09-08-2000, 10:25 AM
Hoover,

I agree that Grbac should be able to do this. If so, then he could change, or call, nearly everyplay from the line of scrimmage, a la Manning. This would allow our team to clear one of its biggest hurdles, the offensive stooge upstairs.

Devin Vierth
09-08-2000, 10:27 AM
Isn't the purpose of audiblizing to create mis-matches with receivers, run a play into the hole created by the blitz or to exploit a weakness that is seen by the QB?

Remember, personnel on the field might limit what can be done at the LOS.



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KCTitus
09-08-2000, 10:27 AM
Lazup,

I'm wondering the same thing. You would like to think the QB has the green light to override everyplay if he can see it is the wrong play called. Then we might actually have 3 timeouts at the end of the half - no wait a minute, that is Dan Williams fault.

KCTitus
09-08-2000, 10:31 AM
bkkcoh,

That is one of my complaints of the RBbC. However, these are suppose to be professional players, and all of them ought to be able to carry out any play.

Snapper
09-08-2000, 10:42 AM
Elvis steps up to the line, looks over the field Tony Gonzales is going to be double covered, audible! T-rich up the gut for 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Next play
Elvis steps up to the line, looks over the field Tony Gonzales is going to be double covered, audible! T-rich up the gut for 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Next play
Elvis steps up to the line, looks over the field Tony Gonzales is going to be double covered, audible! T-rich up the gut for 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

Punt team!

Maybe I don't want Elvis to audible

Hoover
My first attempt at Elvis Bashing <BR>

Devin Vierth
09-08-2000, 10:44 AM
Hoover,

You didn't spend much time on that attempt, did you. http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/tongue.gif



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Snapper
09-08-2000, 10:45 AM
Nope,

Hey I'm Working here


Hoover
Working Hard for Freedom

redbrian
09-08-2000, 10:50 AM
I've been saying for 2 years that one of Grbac's biggest weaknesses is his inability to improvise. For example, throwing the ball where the receiver is supposed to be, instead of where he actually is. Calling an audible, especially in a loud, unfriendly stadium is the ultimate in QB improvisation, IMO.

I personally wouldn't want Elvis calling audibles, even if they were part of the offense.

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htismaqe
09-08-2000, 11:26 AM
Bob Dole read somewhere that the Colts leave the huddle with 3 potential plays, then Manning decides at the LOS which will work best against the defense he sees.

Such a system allows for some flexibility, proper personnel, and still limits the QB's ability to do something stupid.

Bob Dole doesn't know why Elvis couldn't handle a similar system. Perhaps because Martha Raye can't come up with one workable play most times...much less three.

redbrian
09-08-2000, 11:34 AM
IMO, it's because his brain doesn't work fast enough. I think our delay of game penalties would skyrocket if KC used an Indy-like system of audibles.

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redbrian
09-08-2000, 11:34 AM
IMO, it's because his brain doesn't work fast enough. I think our delay of game penalties would skyrocket if KC used an Indy-like system of audibles.

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Brock
09-08-2000, 11:56 AM
Mr. Dole Sir,
I remember reading the same thing. Every set includes 3 options and Manning make the final call at the line.

Personally I don't think that Grbac is the reason that we don't audible. Both Raye and Gun think that Raye knows how to call plays and anyone who believes that would never be creative enough to come up with a system that has the QB audible.

Dev
~with RayGun Grbac will never get the chance to prove me wrong...

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