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whoman69
07-30-2004, 06:18 PM
This is the official home for the VFL draft, to take place Aug 1 at 1230 pm. See you then.

Rain Man
07-31-2004, 12:09 PM
In areas like DL, OL, and DBs, do we need to make sure that we're drafting (for example) 2 DEs and 2 DTs, or can we just take 4 DTs if we want? It might be a bit of a pain, but it'd be nice if we could keep it more realistic in that regard.

Also, are we running all 4-3s, or can we run a 3-4?

whoman69
07-31-2004, 12:16 PM
The game has no way to differentiate between a tackle or guard, a corner or a safety, a split end or flanker. It is feasible to put together a lineup with 4 DEs but when you put your starters together the game does ask where you wish to put them in the lineup. The formations used will be a product of the gameplan.

keg in kc
07-31-2004, 05:06 PM
Have we established a draft order?

keg in kc
07-31-2004, 07:32 PM
Have we established a draft order?Why yes, we have, Kyle.Got the draft order in place for the Draft which will be next Sunday, Aug 1 at 1230 central time. The draft order will reverse in even rounds so if you draft last in the first round then you will draft first in the next.
1. SNR
2. Rausch
3. Ebola
4. Rain Man
5. Fat Elvis
6. Raiderhader
7. ZachKC
8. Saulbadguy
9. SDChiefsfan
10. Keg in KC
11. StevieRaySorry. Brainfart.

Mr. Kotter
07-31-2004, 10:27 PM
Plans for our vacation have changed; we are leaving tomorrow morning, and I don't have a PROXY list....sorry.

If someone would be so kind as to draft for me, I'd still participate.

The league needs a last place team anyway, don't we? :banghead:

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:23 AM
We are about ready to start, one change the teams should have 1 KR/PR and 1 KR instead of 1 PR.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:27 AM
I just know dinner is going to be ready about the time we get started.....

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:28 AM
I just know dinner is going to be ready about the time we get started.....
You've got a couple minutes to grab a sandwich. So far its you, me and an invisible user.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:31 AM
You've got a couple minutes to grab a sandwich. So far its you, me and an invisible user.


I'm at my parents and I think my mom is fixing a Sunday meal. I draft towards the end, so hopefully it'll work out that I can eat quickly...

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:32 AM
Right now its just you and me.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:33 AM
Right now its just you and me.


Well then I'll take half the players and you take the other half. :D

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:33 AM
I's here.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:36 AM
I's here.
That makes three plus I have 2 proxys. Don't see SNR, Rausch, StevieRay/First Down Elvis, ZachKC online unless they are invisible.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:37 AM
I'm here.

Some idiot broke into our garage last night and stole my mountain bike, so I've spent all morning talking to neighbors. Sorry I'm a bit late.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:38 AM
That makes three plus I have 2 proxys. Don't see SNR, Rausch, StevieRay/First Down Elvis, ZachKC online unless they are invisible.

Hmph. :harumph: I missed you too, whoman.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:39 AM
I'm here.

Some idiot broke into our garage last night and stole my mountain bike, so I've spent all morning talking to neighbors. Sorry I'm a bit late.


We've already drafted for you in the first round, you got Todd Blackledge.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:39 AM
I'm here.

Some idiot broke into our garage last night and stole my mountain bike, so I've spent all morning talking to neighbors. Sorry I'm a bit late.
I've been working on a thread that I think you will like. Its Chiefsplanet members as Electoral college votes. Should have it ready by tomorrow unless this thing doesn't get off the ground. Unless we have a majority of players I can't really go forward.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:41 AM
We've already drafted for you in the first round, you got Todd Blackledge.


That's a bit higher than I would've taken him...

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:42 AM
Well we have 3 players plus 2 proxy's then. I am thinking about picking for SD Chiefsfan since he left at the last moment. So that makes 6 teams represented, should we go forth?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:44 AM
So that makes 6 teams represented, should we go forth?Gopher it. Starting sooner cuts down the number of weeks it'll take to get to my first pick.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:45 AM
I'm glad to draft for one or two extra teams.

Or if people aren't showing up, we could just draft for eight teams or something. I'm thinking this could take a long time.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:45 AM
Let's do it.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:47 AM
I'm glad to draft for one or two extra teams.

Or if people aren't showing up, we could just draft for eight teams or something. I'm thinking this could take a long time.
I don't think its fair to draft for another person. If they don't pick now then we could have an elimination pick to leave players for other teams. So when you draft, you also choose a player to bump from the list for those not here. In that way the teams here should have stronger teams, but no so much so as to have an unfair advantage.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:48 AM
I wouldn't want to draft for another person anyway. I'd be afraid of screwing it up and having them think I did it on purporse. Or even worse, of picking a team for them that's better than mine. ROFL

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:48 AM
Your call, whoman. You're the warden. Just tell me what to do.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:48 AM
I don't see SNR, EBOLA and Rausch here. If they are here then speak up. Otherwise, Rain Man is up.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:49 AM
Hey Kevin, I'll trade you the underwear I'm wearing for the first pick.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:50 AM
Another option would be that if a person drafts for two people, he draws one of those teams randomly. It eliminates any concerns about deck-stacking or screwing up.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:51 AM
As Kevin's proxy, I select Elvis Grbac as the number one pick of the inaugural ChiefsPlanet Virtual Football League draft.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:51 AM
Your call, whoman. You're the warden. Just tell me what to do.
Since I'm the warden, I wish LVNHACK was here to watch over you guys for me.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:51 AM
Hey Kevin, I'll trade you the underwear I'm wearing for the first pick.

Sorry. I don't wear underwear.

So I get first pick? 3...2...1...in one minute, I'll pick.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:52 AM
Sorry. I don't wear underwearYou could maybe use it for the inevitable flag of surrender that your team will be flying.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:53 AM
With the #1 pick in the 1960-2004 VFL draft, the Juneau Watts select running back Jim Brown of the Cleveland Browns.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:54 AM
Now pick a player to bump for those not here.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:55 AM
whoman, how many teams? 10 or 11?

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 11:55 AM
You could maybe use it for the inevitable flag of surrender that your team will be flying.


Surrender flags are supposed to be white, not white, yellow, brown, and... red..... :spock:

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:56 AM
Does it need to be a bump the same position or from any position, whoman?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:56 AM
Surrender flags are supposed to be white, not white, yellow, brown, and... red..... Hey, that's not my fault. Ho could've given me some warning.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:56 AM
whoman, how many teams? 10 or 11?
There are 11 teams, and a 12th will be picked from the remaining teams. The Oakland Donkos will be that 12th team.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:57 AM
Does it need to be a bump the same position or from any position, whoman?
Any position.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:57 AM
There are 11 teams, and a 12th will be picked from the remaining teams. The Oakland Donkos will be that 12th team.Remaining teams? Say again?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:58 AM
For ethical reasons, I will always bump the player that I would have taken next. The first bump is QB Steve Young.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 11:58 AM
Remaining teams? Say again?
Err, edit team singular.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 11:59 AM
Err, edit team singular.

Edit again - players?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 11:59 AM
So are the rounds going to have 12 picks each? I'm making my draft chart...

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:00 PM
Fat Elvis proxy is Barry Sanders RB, no bump for those not here, that puts Raiderhader on the clock.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:01 PM
And what are the rules involving bumped players? Are they out of the mix now and only accessable to the absentee owners?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:02 PM
So are the rounds going to have 12 picks each? I'm making my draft chart...
As it stands right now we have 6 teams that are picking. Those 4 people here will bump someone so that would be 10. The other people not represented by proxy or live votes will have to draft later.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:03 PM
And what are the rules involving bumped players? Are they out of the mix now and only accessable to the absentee owners?
They will be in play for those not here so that the people here will have some advantage but not too great.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:04 PM
As it stands right now we have 6 teams that are picking. Those 4 people here will bump someone so that would be 10. The other people not represented by proxy or live votes will have to draft later.Ahh, okay. So they're basically getting a suplemental draft later with the bumped and undrafted players. I get it. Sorry for the confusion.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 12:04 PM
Fat Elvis proxy is Barry Sanders RB, no bump for those not here, that puts Raiderhader on the clock.


WhooHoo!

I pick Dan Marino.

I bump Earl Campbell.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:06 PM
Do you mind if I run a flyer out on the main board to see if we can get some substitute owners in here? It'd be nice to have some more people, and if folks aren't showing up they probably shouldn't be upset if they get replaced.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:06 PM
Saulbadguy selects Joe Montana QB, that brings up SDChiefsfan for whom I will pick Deacon Jones DL.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:07 PM
SDChiefsfan bumps Reggie White, that brings Keg up.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:08 PM
Do you mind if I run a flyer out on the main board to see if we can get some substitute owners in here? It'd be nice to have some more people, and if folks aren't showing up they probably shouldn't be upset if they get replaced.
I think they'd be lost as to what we are doing.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:09 PM
Serpentine draft? Two picks to me now, plus two bumps?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:10 PM
Serpentine draft? Two picks to me now, plus two bumps?
Yup

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:10 PM
Serpentine draft? Two picks to me now, plus two bumps?

Selfish. Always thinking about yourself, aren't you?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:15 PM
Selfish. Always thinking about yourself, aren't you?Why think about anybody else? :p

Okay, 6th pick is Anthony Munoz, 7th pick is Merlin Olsen. Bumped players are OJ Simpson and Dick Butkus.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:15 PM
Okay, I apologize. Now, would you go ahead and pick?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:17 PM
These bumped players are killing me, btw. ROFL

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:18 PM
My entire starting defensive line is gone. What's wrong with you people?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:19 PM
SDChiefsfan chooses Warren Moon QB, bumps John Elway QB.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:19 PM
My entire starting defensive line is gone. What's wrong with you people?Selfish. Always thinking about yourself, aren't you?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:20 PM
Saulbadguys chooses Emmitt Smith RB. Raiderhader on the clock.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:23 PM
Selfish. Always thinking about yourself, aren't you?

Curses. Caught in my own trap.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:23 PM
Thought I'd correct a spelling error.Raiderhader on the cock.There, that's more like it.

o:-)

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 12:24 PM
I'll take Larry Csonka with my second pick.

I'll bump WR Herman Moore.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:25 PM
Curses. Caught in my own trap.
That's what happens when you turn to a life of evil. The caped crusaders are always watching.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:25 PM
Now you did it. Raiderhader left.


Seriously, he left. Where is he?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:25 PM
Please disregard my last post.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:26 PM
Fat Elvis chooses Johnny Unitas, Rain Man is up

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:27 PM
I'm the other end of the Serpentine, correct? Two picks, two bumps?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:28 PM
I'm the other end of the Serpentine, correct? Two picks, two bumps?
Oui

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:31 PM
Merci.

The Juneau Watts will select Jack Lambert and Bambi (Lance Alworth),

and the bumpees will be Paul Warfield and Lee Roy Jordan.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:31 PM
OuiWhat a great magazine.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:35 PM
We're quickly running out of players whose names I actually recognize. Soon all the Loserville Benchwarmer picks will have initials rather than surnames. ROFL

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 12:35 PM
Now you did it. Raiderhader left.


Seriously, he left. Where is he?


In another forum doing my damndest to antagonize Denise.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:36 PM
Fat Elvis takes a vastly overrated pick Deion Sanders DB. Raiderhader is on the clock.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:37 PM
Fat Elvis takes a vastly overrated pick Deion Sanders DB. Raiderhader is on the clock.Hey now, he shuts down half the field. Half the continent. Half the goddamn solar system. He dat good.

Just ask him.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:38 PM
The stats in this game certainly indicate that someone dislikes Prime Time.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:39 PM
In another forum doing my damndest to antagonize Denise.
Stop picking on cripples.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:39 PM
The stats in this game certainly indicate that someone dislikes Prime Time.
Do you ever remember seeing him make a tackle?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:40 PM
How long, I wonder, before one of us tries drafting a player who's already been drafted or bumped?

I say "not long" and my prediction would be...me.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:42 PM
How long, I wonder, before one of us tries drafting a player who's already been drafted or bumped?

I say "not long" and my prediction would be...me.


Yeah, and my prediction would be...you. :)


Seriously, I intended to do more prep this morning, but then that thief broke into my garage, so I'm working off of some pretty messy sheets. I may run into trouble keeping track down the road.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:43 PM
Seriously, I intended to do more prep this morning, but then that thief broke into my garage, so I'm working off of some pretty messy sheets. I may run into trouble keeping track down the road.My printer ran out of ink, so I'm working in Word, rather than on paper. Which is just asking for trouble...

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 12:43 PM
For my third pick I choose Jerry Rice.

I'll bump Boomer Easison.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:43 PM
Do you ever remember seeing him make a tackle?

Yeah, but ranking him anywhere but the top in pass defense and interceptions is kind of bogus.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:45 PM
Yeah, but ranking him anywhere but the top in pass defense and interceptions is kind of bogus.
The interceptions are historical. That is the average of his top three seasons. The game does have some predjudices. They seem to rank a player by how well his team did in addition to how well he played.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 12:46 PM
My printer ran out of ink, so I'm working in Word, rather than on paper. Which is just asking for trouble...


I'm working strictly from memory. I am going to have all kinds of trouble.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:47 PM
Saul picks Ronnie Lott DB. SDChiefsfan picks Lawrence Taylor LB, bumps Mel Blount DB.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:48 PM
Dammit, Lott was going to be my next pick. Bastard! :cuss:

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:50 PM
You guys are taking all of the best players. Stop it.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 12:53 PM
Picks are Paul Krause, DB and Art Powell, WR.

Bumped: Sterling Sharpe, WR and Gayle Sayers, RB.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:56 PM
SDChiefsfan selects Sweetness Walter Payton RB, bump LeRoy Kelly RB.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 12:56 PM
Who did Powell play for? He was a bit before my time. I've heard the name, but was somewhat surprised at how high the game stats rated him.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Saulbadguy goes too early in the draft for Derrick Thomas LB, Raiderhader on the board.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 12:59 PM
Who did Powell play for? He was a bit before my time. I've heard the name, but was somewhat surprised at how high the game stats rated him.
Raiders and the Jets.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Saulbadguy goes too early in the draft for Derrick Thomas LB, Raiderhader on the board.


I agree it was too early because that was my next pick.

I'll take Mike Singletary.

Bump Donnie Edwards.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:04 PM
I agree it was too early because that was my next pick.

I'll take Mike Singletary.

Bump Donnie Edwards.
Is that Glen Edwards the DB?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:05 PM
I think he means Dave Edwards, the former Cowboys OLB.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 01:06 PM
Is that Glen Edwards the DB?


Donnie Edwards the LB.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 01:07 PM
I think he means Dave Edwards, the former Cowboys OLB.


Could be. I just saw D. Edwards and automaticaly thought "Donnie".

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:08 PM
Want to double-check, are these the bumped players, so far:

Steve Young, QB; E. Campbell, RB; Re. White, DL; O. Simpson, RB; D. Butkus, LB; J. Elway, QB;
H. Moore, WR; LR Jordan, LB; P. Warfield, WR; B. Esiason, QB; M. Blount, DB; St. Sharpe; WR; G. Sayers, RB; L. Kelly, RB; D. Edwards, LB;

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:08 PM
I don't think Fat Elvis read the draft chart because he has Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis on his board. He selects Alan Page DL.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:09 PM
ROFL

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:09 PM
That list looks good, keg. I'm tracking a different way so I can't put a list together quickly, but I think I can track enough to step in if a bumped player gets accidentally taken.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:10 PM
Want to double-check, are these the bumped players, so far:

Steve Young, QB; E. Campbell, RB; Re. White, DL; O. Simpson, RB; D. Butkus, LB; J. Elway, QB;
H. Moore, WR; LR Jordan, LB; P. Warfield, WR; B. Esiason, QB; M. Blount, DB; St. Sharpe; WR; G. Sayers, RB; L. Kelly, RB; D. Edwards, LB;
That's what I have as well.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:10 PM
Okay, thanks.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:12 PM
The Juneau Watts select the pass rushing fool DE Mark Gastineau, and DT Mean Joe Greene.

We'll bump DT Randy White and RB Jim Taylor

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:15 PM
Fat Elvis picks Shannon Sharpe TE. Hader on board.

Raiderhader
08-01-2004, 01:15 PM
Due to circumstances beyond my control I am forced to leave now. Either pick for me (I have no qualms with this) or I'll jump in later on the supplimental draft.

Sorry about this.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:17 PM
Cool, we can screw hader over. :thumb:

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:18 PM
Yeah, he'll be getting the #1 pick next year.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:18 PM
Due to circumstances beyond my control I am forced to leave now. Either pick for me (I have no qualms with this) or I'll jump in later on the supplimental draft.

Sorry about this.
We'll put you in the supplemental. I am already doing picks for a team plus two proxies. If you can come back let us know and we'll work you in.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:18 PM
What scares me is that we've been so...honest...selecting the bumped players that some of those suckers will probably draft a better squad than me. ROFL

Time to start selecting guys from the "crap" list. :evil:

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:19 PM
Unless you guys want to alternate picks for Hader.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:19 PM
Not I. I'm having enough trouble making my mind up on my own picks.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:19 PM
What scares me is that we've been so...honest...selecting the bumped players that some of those suckers will probably draft a better squad than me. ROFL

Time to start selecting guys from the "crap" list. :evil:
I am thinking of scrapping the bump list in a few rounds.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:20 PM
Eh, he'll want to pick. Let's just add another bump (or maybe two) each round.

We probably should add two since we're bumping four people each round for six (now seven) teams.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:20 PM
Not I. I'm having enough trouble making my mind up on my own picks.
Ok, we'll put Hader in the supplemental. If he can come back later we will work in his picks.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:21 PM
I am thinking of scrapping the bump list in a few rounds.That wouldn't bother me. I think doing the list in the first place was pretty generous.

Plus, frankly, it would speed things up. We'll be here until judgement day at this rate, with 39 rounds.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:21 PM
Nah, we should keep the bump list. While I'm a bit annoyed that people didn't show up, I think it would create a huge advantage if three of us get to cherrypick off the best players.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:22 PM
I guess I can be outvoted, though.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:23 PM
Saul chooses Lyle Alzado DL.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:23 PM
Another easy option would be to stop for a minute, do a random draw of NFL teams, and just kick out half of the teams as "bump" teams.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:24 PM
Eh, he'll want to pick. Let's just add another bump (or maybe two) each round.

We probably should add two since we're bumping four people each round for six (now seven) teams.

Here late... :banghead:

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:24 PM
Nah, we should keep the bump list. While I'm a bit annoyed that people didn't show up, I think it would create a huge advantage if three of us get to cherrypick off the best players.I disagree, because the strength of the (overall pre-draft) rosters lies in the middle. We've done the right thing by saving them high-round type players, but those will all be gone in the next several rounds. After that, it's mostly just even.

We can also keep an eye on our draft boards, and if we think we're not leaving them with enough, we can always start bumping again. But, honestly, maybe you're not having this problem, but it's been really difficult for me to come up with four picks every time my name comes up.

I'll do it, though, if that's what we (or whoman) decide.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:24 PM
Hey Brad, welcome to the asylum.

Hmm, whoman, how do we handle him? Can't just let him pick from the bump list by himself, because he'd be getting all first round calibre guys?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:24 PM
Saulbadguy selects Emmitt Thomas DB, bump Larry Little OL.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:26 PM
Didn't Saul just pick Lyle Alzado? Are those SDChiefs' picks and bumps?

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:26 PM
Hey Brad, welcome to the asylum.

Hmm, whoman, how do we handle him? Can't just let him pick from the bump list by himself, because he'd be getting all first round calibre guys?How many rounds did I miss?

Let me pick for half of them?... :shrug:

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:27 PM
Hey Brad, welcome to the asylum.

Hmm, whoman, how do we handle him? Can't just let him pick from the bump list by himself, because he'd be getting all first round calibre guys?
Brad get caught up on who is taken and then we will let you make consecutive selections when its your turn again. Keg you are on the board.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:27 PM
We're in the fifth now, Brad.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:30 PM
Brad get caught up on who is taken and then we will let you make consecutive selections when its your turn again. Keg you are on the board.

If you give me an e-mail, I can send you my spreadsheet of drafted players so far, but then you'll have to figure out the "bumped" players on your own since I'm not entering that. (Bumped players are being set aside for the teams that didn't show up.)

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:32 PM
Fat Elvis is here, are you going to be able to stay. I was using your proxy.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:34 PM
Keg, you're up.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:34 PM
Picks: R. Perry, DB and J. Slater, OL

Bumped: D. Manley, DL and K. Houston, DB

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:34 PM
Cool. It's nice to have two more people.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:38 PM
This is what I have, so far:

1.1: J. Brown, RB (Rain Man)
1.2: B. Sanders, RB (Fat Elvis)
1.3: D. Marino, QB (raiderhader)
1.4: J. Montana, QB (Saulbadguy)
1.5: D. Jones, DL (SDChiefsfan)
1.6: A. Munoz, OL (me)
2.1: M. Olsen, DL (me)
2.2: W. Moon, QB (SDChiefsfan)
2.3: E. Smith, RB (Saulbadguy)
2.4: L. Csonka, RB (raiderhader)
2.5: J. Unitas, QB (Fat Elvis)
2.6: J. Lambert, LB (Rain Man)
3.1: L. Alworth, WR (Rain Man)
3.2: D. Sanders, DB (Fat Elvis)
3.3: J. Rice, WR (raiderhader)
3.4: R. Lott, DB (Saulbadguy)
3.5: L. Taylor, LB (SDChiefsfan)
3.6: P. Krause, DB (me)
4.1: A. Powell, WR (me)
4.2: W. Payton, RB (SDChiefsfan)
4.3: D. Thomas, LB (Saulbadguy)
4.4: M. Singletary, LB (raiderhader)
4.5: A. Page, DL (Fat Elvis)
4.6: M. Gastineau, DL (Rain Man)
5.1: Jo. Greene, DL (Rain Man)
5.2: S. Sharpe, TE (Fat Elvis)
5.3: L. Alzado, DL (Saulbadguy)
5.4: E. Thomas, DB (SDChiefsfan)
5.5: R. Perry, DB (me)
6.1: J. Slater, OL (me)

Bumped: Steve Young, QB; E. Campbell, RB; Re. White, DL; O. Simpson, RB; D. Butkus, LB; J. Elway, QB;
H. Moore, WR; LR Jordan, LB; P. Warfield, WR; B. Esiason, QB; M. Blount, DB; St. Sharpe; WR; G. Sayers, RB; L. Kelly, RB; D. Edwards, LB; Ra. White, DL; J. Taylor, RB; L. Little OL; D. Manley, DL; K. Houston, DB.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:38 PM
SDChiefsfan picks Guy McIntyre, bump Max Montoya

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:39 PM
Saul picks Dan Dierdorf, OL other selections for SDChiefsfan were also OL

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:40 PM
We're in the fifth now, Brad.

Reverse order now, correct?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:41 PM
Fat Elvis is up, you gonna pick?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:43 PM
Reverse order now, correct?
Yes, when you pick you will be able to select 3 players from the bump pile and four available players.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:43 PM
Reverse order now, correct?

Yeah. Even rounds are last to first, odd rounds are first to last.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:44 PM
Fat Elvis is up, you gonna pick?
Well, are you?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:46 PM
Yes, when you pick you will be able to select 3 players from the bump pile and four available players.


Is he only allowed to pick one player bumped each round (i.e., one of the first four bumped players, one of the 5th-8th bumped players, one of the 9th-12th bumped players)? Otherwise, he can get three 1st round players.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:48 PM
Yes, when you pick you will be able to select 3 players from the bump pile and four available players.

Anyone else bumped besides these guys?

Steve Young, QB; E. Campbell, RB; Re. White, DL; O. Simpson, RB; D. Butkus, LB; J. Elway, QB;
H. Moore, WR; LR Jordan, LB; P. Warfield, WR; B. Esiason, QB; M. Blount, DB; St. Sharpe; WR; G. Sayers, RB; L. Kelly, RB; D. Edwards, LB; :banghead:

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:48 PM
Is he only allowed to pick one player bumped each round (i.e., one of the first four bumped players, one of the 5th-8th bumped players, one of the 9th-12th bumped players)? Otherwise, he can get three 1st round players.Valid point. Although a pain in the ass.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:49 PM
Last call for Fat Elvis.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:49 PM
Hey, Kevin, I'm surprised you didn't try an all-kicker team.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:50 PM
I don't like my team. Can I start over? Call it a mulligan.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:50 PM
Bumped: Steve Young, QB; E. Campbell, RB; Re. White, DL; O. Simpson, RB; D. Butkus, LB; J. Elway, QB;
H. Moore, WR; LR Jordan, LB; P. Warfield, WR; B. Esiason, QB; M. Blount, DB; St. Sharpe; WR; G. Sayers, RB; L. Kelly, RB; D. Edwards, LB; Ra. White, DL; J. Taylor, RB; L. Little OL; D. Manley, DL; K. Houston, DB; Max Montoya, G

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:52 PM
Fat Elvis selects Lynn Swan WR. Rain Man is up.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:54 PM
I don't like my team. Can I start over? Call it a mulligan.

I don't like your team, either. Who's on it again?


Seriously, one thought that has occurred to me with the no-shows is the possibility of just pitching this draft and starting over by just making it a regular post on the main board. People draft whenever they feel like it, and then pm the next guy on the list. If you don't draft in 24 hours, you can pick whenever you get on, but the draft moves forward without you. That'd take a long while, but it would also eliminate a lot of headaches.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Valid point. Although a pain in the ass.

Judges?...

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:55 PM
I don't like your team, either. Who's on it again?


Seriously, one thought that has occurred to me with the no-shows is the possibility of just pitching this draft and starting over by just making it a regular post on the main board. People draft whenever they feel like it, and then pm the next guy on the list. If you don't draft in 24 hours, you can pick whenever you get on, but the draft moves forward without you. That'd take a long while, but it would also eliminate a lot of headaches.
That would take forever.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:55 PM
I was kidding, Kevin. No way I want to pitch this and start over. :p

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:56 PM
I don't like your team, either. Who's on it again?


Seriously, one thought that has occurred to me with the no-shows is the possibility of just pitching this draft and starting over by just making it a regular post on the main board. People draft whenever they feel like it, and then pm the next guy on the list. If you don't draft in 24 hours, you can pick whenever you get on, but the draft moves forward without you. That'd take a long while, but it would also eliminate a lot of headaches.

How many are we missing?
Could we do it now in the chat room?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 01:56 PM
We will select Bart Starr, QB, and we'll bump Fran Tarkenton, QB.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:57 PM
Judges?...
We'll do it as Rain Man suggests for your picks. You will pick from each group of four on the bump list.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 01:57 PM
Judges?...Well, we've got 21 bumped players and five complete rounds. We have the bumps in order, so why don't we have you just pick one out of the first four, then one out of the second four, and so on. That would basically be round-by-round.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 01:58 PM
How many are we missing?
Could we do it now in the chat room?
What and miss out on all this post padding? You are up you may select amongst each group of 4 bumps.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 01:59 PM
We will select Bart Starr, QB, and we'll bump Fran Tarkenton, QB. :cuss:

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:00 PM
Yeah, it's not like Steve Young is available to you, or anything. Or Elway.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:01 PM
So by my count, Rausch gets to pick three bumpees according to the rounds of bumping

Plus

2 new players (he's the end of the Serpentine)

Plus

Bumps 2 new players


Everyone else agree? Disagree?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:01 PM
Rausch you're up, ready for your bump picks?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:01 PM
Disagree?Yes, but just on general principle.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:03 PM
Yes, but just on general principle.

I can't argue with that.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:04 PM
What and miss out on all this post padding? You are up you may select amongst each group of 4 bumps.

5 PLAYERS total, correct?...

White, Reggie DL

D. Butkus, LB

M. Blount, DB

G. Sayers, RB

That's four, but Tarkenton makes the 5th round of bumps. Can I pick him?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:04 PM
What and miss out on all this post padding? You are up you may select amongst each group of 4 bumps.Sweet Jesus, I have 45 posts on here and we're only in the 7th round.

Question: Rausch is now the top pick, based on the established order?

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:04 PM
:cuss:

Heh-heh. I did that on purpose.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:06 PM
5 PLAYERS total, correct?...

White, Reggie DL

D. Butkus, LB

M. Blount, DB

G. Sayers, RB

That's four, but Tarkenton makes the 5th round of bumps. Can I pick him?


Only three bumps, and then two players who haven't been drafted or bumped. whoman's walking you through it.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:06 PM
5 PLAYERS total, correct?...

White, Reggie DL

D. Butkus, LB

M. Blount, DB

G. Sayers, RB

That's four, but Tarkenton makes the 5th round of bumps. Can I pick him?
Yes and then you have two picks of players not yet selected and two more bumps.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:08 PM
Only three bumps, and then two players who haven't been drafted or bumped. whoman's walking you through it.
He's ok, we are going by what you selected. He should have 5 picks from the bump pile in each group of 4 bumps and then his selection for this round and the next and his two bumps.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:09 PM
Only three bumps, and then two players who haven't been drafted or bumped. whoman's walking you through it.

My bad....

If Rod Woodson is not taken or bumped I'd like him, and Marcus Allen...

And I'll bump...

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:10 PM
Disregard my comment, Rausch. Whoman's running the show.

Fat Elvis
08-01-2004, 02:11 PM
Fat Elvis is here, are you going to be able to stay. I was using your proxy.


I have the in-laws over. I was just sneaking a peek, pretending to go to the bathroom...

Fat Elvis
08-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Keep proxying me, please...

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:12 PM
My bad....No, you were right, plus you can select one more bump.

And you owe me, pal:Bumped players are OJ Simpson and Dick Butkus.

Bumped: Sterling Sharpe, WR and Gayle Sayers, RB.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Then I bump G. Saurer, WR; and L. McCutcheon, RB....

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:12 PM
We just need 2 bumps, I assume you are taking Tarkenton? And then its back to Kevin.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:13 PM
No, you were right, plus you can select one more bump.

And you owe me, pal:

Yes I do... :)

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:14 PM
We just need 2 bumps, I assume you are taking Tarkenton? And then its back to Kevin.

No, I was drafting Tarkenton....

I was bumping G. Saurer, WR; and L. McCutcheon, RB....

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:14 PM
OK so I have for Rausch's roster White, Butkus, Blount, Sayers, Tarkenton, and M. Allen.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:15 PM
OK so I have for Rausch's roster White, Butkus, Blount, Sayers, Tarkenton, and M. Allen.

Correct... :thumb:

Was Rod Woodson already taken?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:15 PM
I was bumping G. Saurer, WR; and L. McCutcheon, RB....G. Saurer, WR; and L. McCutcheon, RB....Thank you, Coach Vermeil. Coach Vermeil.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:16 PM
Correct... :thumb:

Was Rod Woodson already taken?No.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:16 PM
Correct... :thumb:

Was Rod Woodson already taken?
No, I left him off, he is yours too, its Rain Man's pick.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:17 PM
No.

Well, I'd wanted him before M. Allen...

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:17 PM
No, I left him off, he is yours too, its Rain Man's pick. :thumb:

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:18 PM
We'll select Bob Lilly, DT.

Do I still bump someone?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:18 PM
:thumb:You're set, you got them both.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:19 PM
We'll select Bob Lilly, DT.

Do I still bump someone?
Yes, we are still bumping at least for the next few rounds.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:20 PM
We'll bump the big man, Buck Buchanan, DT.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:21 PM
Fat Elvis selects Bobby Bell, LB.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:21 PM
We'll bump the big man, Buck Buchanan, DT. :cuss:

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:22 PM
We'll bump the big man, Buck Buchanan, DT.
You are on my sh!t list, buddy.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:22 PM
Saul Picks Ozzie Newsome TE.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:23 PM
It caused me pain too, but I figured it would hurt you guys more. I'm funny that way.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:24 PM
SDChiefsfan selects Stan Brock OL, bumps Richard Dent DL.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:25 PM
I swear to god this is the most complicated draft I've ever been a part of. Not that I don't like it, but I'm going to have a headache later.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:26 PM
I swear to god this is the most complicated draft I've ever been a part of. Not that I don't like it, but I'm going to have a headache later.
Take some aspirin, cause you're up.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:30 PM
Picks: Alex Karras, DL and Kellen Winslow, TE.

Bumps: Randly Cross, OL and Steve McMichael, DL.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:30 PM
Picks: Alex Karras, DL and Kellen Winslow, TE.
:cuss:

:banghead:

:cuss:

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:33 PM
SDChiefsfan takes LC Greenwood, DL, bump Too Tall Jones DL.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:34 PM
I meant to ask this before the draft. Damn hangover.

How are the starting lineups set? Do we have a uniform established formation on each side of the ball?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:35 PM
Saul takes Gene Upshaw OL. Fat Elvis takes John Stallworth WR.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:35 PM
I meant to ask this before the draft. Damn hangover.

How are the starting lineups set? Do we have a uniform established formation on each side of the ball?

Here are the players needed and its very important to follow or your team will be short in some area.

2 QB
4 RB
4 WR
2 TE
7 OL
6 DL
4 LB
6 DB
1 P
1 K
1 KR/PR
1 PR

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:37 PM
I meant to ask this before the draft. Damn hangover.

How are the starting lineups set? Do we have a uniform established formation on each side of the ball?
You can pick your formations that you use up to a certain extent. You will need to pick a line up for each type formation. You think the draft is a headache, wait until I post the game plans.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:38 PM
Rain man on the board then Rausch.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:38 PM
Juneau selects Mel Renfro, CB.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:39 PM
Oh, and we'll bump Pat Swilling, LB.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:40 PM
You can pick your formations that you use up to a certain extent. You will need to pick a line up for each type formation. You think the draft is a headache, wait until I post the game plans.Okay, thanks, that was what I was looking for.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:41 PM
I'll take O. Newsome, or Bavarro....depending on who's left.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:42 PM
I'll take O. Newsome, or Bavarro....depending on who's left.
Bavaro is available, need another pick and two bumps.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:42 PM
I'll take O. Newsome, or Bavarro....depending on who's left.

And bump G. Saurer, WR, if he hasn't been...

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:42 PM
You've got Bavaro. Newsome's gone.

You also get another pick (new round), and two bumps.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:43 PM
And bump G. Saurer, WR, if he hasn't been...He has. By you, I think, as a matter of fact.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:43 PM
And bump G. Saurer, WR, if he hasn't been...
Saurer has been bumped already.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:43 PM
Rausch must really hate George Saurer. He's rebumping him.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:44 PM
Rausch must really hate George Saurer. He's rebumping him.Or maybe he really likes the idea of...bumping...him.

:hump:

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:44 PM
Bavaro is available, need another pick and two bumps.

L. Oneil, DL, is my 2nd pick...and BUMP A. Reed....

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:46 PM
Lets move on then Rain Man is up.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:46 PM
My bad, bump T. Metcalf (Returner...)

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:48 PM
You know, we probably shouldn't bump return men.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 02:49 PM
You know, we probably shouldn't bump return men.

You don't think the "drone" team will need one? :)

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:50 PM
You don't think the "drone" team will need one? :)No, I mean because there are only a few of them. No real reason to, and nobody will take more than one. Nothing to protect there, really.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:50 PM
We will draft Jack Ham, LB, and we will bump Thurman Thomas, RB.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 02:52 PM
We will draft Jack Ham, LB,.I will keeeeel you.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:52 PM
Fat Elvis takes Ray Nitschke LB, Saul takes Charlie Waters DB.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:54 PM
SDChiefsfan takes Andre Tippett, LB, bump Wilbur Marshall LB.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:54 PM
Interestingly, seven of the glory Steelers have been drafted so far, not even counting bumps.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 02:56 PM
Heck, Tippett was going to be my next pick.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:58 PM
Heck, Tippett was going to be my next pick.
Personal favorite, he was at Iowa while I was a student there. I even got to wash laundry with him one day.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 02:59 PM
Waiting on keg.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 03:00 PM
Personal favorite, he was at Iowa while I was a student there. I even got to wash laundry with him one day.

Great player, never got the credit he deserved.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 03:01 PM
Did Keg's headache lead to a stroke?

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 03:03 PM
Picks: C. Howley, LB and A. Haynes, RB.

Bumped: W. Montgomery, RB and T. Christensen, TE.

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 03:03 PM
He must be mourning the loss of Tippett. Keg, pull yourself together, man!

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 03:04 PM
Please disregard my last post.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 03:04 PM
Did Keg's headache lead to a stroke?keg's trying to keep up with a ton of shit... :p

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 03:05 PM
Y'know, here's something I've always wanted to try.

If we collude and do nothing but draft and bump quarterbacks until keg's next pick comes up, we can leave him with someone like Ken O'Brien as his starting quarterback. Wouldn't that be fun?

whoman69
08-01-2004, 03:05 PM
SDChiefsfan takes Charley Hennigan WR, bump Otis Sistrunk DL.

whoman69
08-01-2004, 03:06 PM
Saul takes Otis Taylor WR, Fat Elvis takes Eric Dickerson RB.
Rain Man is up.

keg in kc
08-01-2004, 03:07 PM
Y'know, here's something I've always wanted to try.

If we collude and do nothing but draft and bump quarterbacks until keg's next pick comes up, we can leave him with someone like Ken O'Brien as his starting quarterback. Wouldn't that be fun?Hey, thanks for reminding me.

Rausch
08-01-2004, 03:08 PM
Yer up Kebin....

Rain Man
08-01-2004, 03:09 PM
Rain Man selects Bruce Smith, DE, and bumps Howie Long, DE.