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FringeNC
09-08-2004, 06:51 PM
according to Gallup..

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/2004-09-08-poll.htm

Donger
09-08-2004, 06:52 PM
Nah. USA Today is on my skeptical list.

Bummer.

Michael Michigan
09-08-2004, 07:49 PM
AZ as well...

Bush 54%
Kerry 38%

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/09-08-2004/0002246425&EDATE=

RINGLEADER
09-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Bush was up only 3 in AZ in the same poll. Now he leads by 16 (13 point bounce). He trailed Kerry by 6 in the OH poll. Now he leads by 9 (15 point bounce). He was tied with Kerry in MO last month in this poll. Now he leads by 14.

Just imagine how far he'd be ahead if the swift boat vet ads and that Zell Miller speech hadn't backfired so badly.

ROFL

RINGLEADER
09-08-2004, 08:25 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/2004-09-08-battleground-poll_x.htm

WASHINGTON President Bush holds clear leads over Sen. John Kerry in the battlegrounds of Missouri and Ohio states the president probably needs to hold to win re-election according to USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup polls. (Related link: Poll results)

Kerry is ahead in Washington state and tied with Bush in Pennsylvania, swing states that are similarly important to Democratic chances for victory.

The quartet of statewide polls reflects a race that remains competitive but is moving in Bush's direction. Ads attacking Kerry's service in Vietnam and a GOP convention that focused on the terrorist threat seem to have succeeded in shifting a race that has been stubbornly close for months.

Bush's margins in Missouri and Ohio are the first statistically significant leads either candidate has held in 12 surveys USA TODAY has taken in battleground states.

His 14-point edge in Missouri raises questions about whether the traditional bellwether is still competitive. The Kerry campaign hasn't purchased air time for ads in the Show Me State this month.

"More and more states that are Bush states (from 2000) are getting taken off the table," says Bush strategist Matthew Dowd. "The battleground states are becoming much more predominantly Gore states, which is good news for us."

<B>Kerry pollster Mark Mellman says the surveys, taken Friday through Tuesday, were in the field too soon after the Republican convention to be reliable. "There's no poll that's worth looking at for another week or so," he says. "You expect these states to move back to their more natural equilibrium."</B>

A USA TODAY post-convention poll showed Bush with a 7-point lead nationwide.

In the state-by-state polls:

Missouri, which was tied in a USA TODAY poll taken just before the Democratic National Convention in July, puts Bush ahead of Kerry by 55%-41% among likely voters. Bush carried the state in 2000 by 3 percentage points.

Ohio, where Bush lagged by 6 points in July, now favors him by 9 points. Among registered voters, Bush's lead was 1 point. He carried the state by 4 points in 2000.

The other states showed no meaningful difference between the registered-voter and likely-voter samples.

Pennsylvania was even two weeks ago and remains essentially tied (RL: Actually Bush is ahead by 1). Al Gore carried the state by 4 points in 2000.

Washington state is a bright spot for Kerry. He leads Bush by 8 points. Gore carried the state by 5 points in 2000.

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Interesting how the polls immediately after the Dems convention were fine by the DNC. But these polls can't be trusted. :rolleyes:

I also love how the Dems are constantly moving the bar for the Bush defeat. It was Richard Clark. It was the 9/11 hearings. It was Condi Rice's testimony. It was the Bob Woodward book. It was the Joe Wilson allegations. It was the "introduction" of John Kerry to America. It was the Democratic convention. It was the Republican convention. It was Bush is AWOL. Now it's the polls next week. Next it will be the debates...or the Bush is a drunk talk...or the Bush is a cokehead talk.

Logical
09-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Bush was up only 3 in AZ in the same poll. Now he leads by 16 (13 point bounce). He trailed Kerry by 6 in the OH poll. Now he leads by 9 (15 point bounce). He was tied with Kerry in MO last month in this poll. Now he leads by 14.

Just imagine how far he'd be ahead if the swift boat vet ads and that Zell Miller speech hadn't backfired so badly.

ROFL:clap:ROFL

FringeNC
09-08-2004, 09:52 PM
John Kerry would poll better if he just left the country until the election was over. The more he is on tv, the worse he does. That's not good when you are down in the polls. Kerry's only hope is that media smear jobs on Bush work, which is very questionable considering most of the smears are old news.

RINGLEADER
09-08-2004, 10:00 PM
John Kerry would poll better if he just left the country until the election was over. The more he is on tv, the worse he does. That's not good when you are down in the polls. Kerry's only hope is that media smear jobs on Bush work, which is very questionable considering most of the smears are old news.


The dude on CNN was almost laughing at the AWOL ad tonight...It's looks ridiculous and just reinforces the Kerry campaign's most recent stereotype of being a bunch of whiners...

FringeNC
09-08-2004, 10:07 PM
The dude on CNN was almost laughing at the AWOL ad tonight...It's looks ridiculous and just reinforces the Kerry campaign's most recent stereotype of being a bunch of whiners...

Who produced the ad? Is it on the 'net anywhere?