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htismaqe
09-17-2004, 08:24 AM
He brought up an interesting stat.

Remember the Green Bay game in 1996? Or the San Fran game in 1997?

The Chiefs have lost at home to an NFC team TWICE in the last TEN years.

There's good reason to believe the Chiefs will win this weekend.

On to the real news...

1) Vonnie Holliday was, and I quote "horrible, horrible...and I mean HORRIBLE" against Denver.

2) Allen had a VERY bad game, and Dalton got stood up and pushed back quite a bit.

2) Gunther and the staff deserves some blame. He and Len both were yelling "WTF are you thinking?!?!" when, with the game tied at 17-17, Gunther rotated ALL FOUR defensive linemen at the same time. Griffin immediately took the ball right up the gut 47 yards for a TD.

ChiTown
09-17-2004, 08:31 AM
2) Gunther and the staff deserves some blame. He and Len both were yelling "WTF are you thinking?!?!" when, with the game tied at 17-17, Gunther rotated ALL FOUR defensive linemen at the same time. Griffin immediately took the ball right up the gut 47 yards for a TD.

Yeah, I came unglued on that one. Sometimes, coaches really try and outsmart themselves. Just play the phuggin game, and stop all the stupid rotating. I took my remote and threw it against a wall. It shattered. Gunther is getting the bill.

donkhater
09-17-2004, 08:33 AM
Yeah, I came unglued on that one. Sometimes, coaches really try and outsmart themselves. Just play the phuggin game, and stop all the stupid rotating. I took my remote and threw it against a wall. It shattered. Gunther is getting the bill.


I can't believe they did that either. That entire drive was 3 plays long. How tired are the D-lineman gonna be?

ptlyon
09-17-2004, 08:38 AM
Yeah, I came unglued on that one. Sometimes, coaches really try and outsmart themselves. Just play the phuggin game, and stop all the stupid rotating. I took my remote and threw it against a wall. It shattered. Gunther is getting the bill.

Gotsta rep dat

Lzen
09-17-2004, 08:38 AM
1) Vonnie Holliday was, and I quote "horrible, horrible...and I mean HORRIBLE" against Denver.

Yup. I was saying that the other day. :banghead: See my post about nutclamps for Vonnie. :evil:


2) Gunther and the staff deserves some blame. He and Len both were yelling "WTF are you thinking?!?!" when, with the game tied at 17-17, Gunther rotated ALL FOUR defensive linemen at the same time. Griffin immediately took the ball right up the gut 47 yards for a TD.

I also noted this. Well, I just noticed that Dalton and Allen were in there. I, too, did not understand the logic in rotating more than one starter out at a time. Stupid if you ask me.

morphius
09-17-2004, 08:43 AM
I also noted this. Well, I just noticed that Dalton and Allen were in there. I, too, did not understand the logic in rotating more than one starter out at a time. Stupid if you ask me.

That was always one of my biggest complaints about GR, we saw what happened to our backup DL in preseason, that should have been proof enough that it should never happen in regular season.

KCTitus
09-17-2004, 08:44 AM
I took my remote and threw it against a wall. It shattered. Gunther is getting the bill.

Sounds like someone needs a 'bad call' brick for Christmas

ChiTown
09-17-2004, 08:52 AM
Sounds like someone needs a 'bad call' brick for Christmas

Years ago, late 80's, I bought TV Rocks. I had them forever, until I had kids. They promptly played with and subsequently lost them. I generally use a nerf football to launch during the game, but I didn't have it with me at the time. Ya know what they say, any port in the storm.......

KC Jones
09-17-2004, 08:52 AM
Why is it nearly every other position can play every snap but D-linmen need so much rest?

tomahawk kid
09-17-2004, 08:55 AM
Is everyone really THAT worried that the Chiefs are going to drop this game on Sunday?

I'm fairly confidant. Do I stand alone?

JimNasium
09-17-2004, 08:57 AM
Why is it that a starting defensive line always needs to be rotated to be fresh yet a starting offensive line never does? I just don't grasp the philosophy behind regular rotation.

shakesthecat
09-17-2004, 09:00 AM
Is everyone really THAT worried that the Chiefs are going to drop this game on Sunday?

I'm fairly confidant. Do I stand alone?

I'm with ya.
KC will NOT lose this week.

ChiTown
09-17-2004, 09:00 AM
Why is it that a starting defensive line always needs to be rotated to be fresh yet a starting offensive line never does? I just don't grasp the philosophy behind regular rotation.

Well, there is some logic to it. Defensive lineman generally do a lot more running than OL, especially chasing the play. That said, wholesale changes along the line during a series is fuggin baffling.

JimNasium
09-17-2004, 09:05 AM
Well, there is some logic to it. Defensive lineman generally do a lot more running than OL, especially chasing the play. That said, wholesale changes along the line during a series is fuggin baffling.With the way our O-line pulls and gets downfield I think they work just as hard as their defensive counterparts. There is something to be said for continuity.

Iowanian
09-17-2004, 09:05 AM
The Chiefs are going to beat Carolina this weekend like a 14 yr old's noodle, whose parents are gone and the scrambled pron channel is coming in pretty well.



Given the results of the wholesale Dline changes.........Every team will be preparing plays to call at the line to run.

Swanman
09-17-2004, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I came unglued on that one. Sometimes, coaches really try and outsmart themselves. Just play the phuggin game, and stop all the stupid rotating. I took my remote and threw it against a wall. It shattered. Gunther is getting the bill.

I've launched my Directv remote about 2,000 times and it's yet to break. The remote flies into about 5 pieces but it's real easy to put back together and it always works after being put back together. Directv should work that into their Sunday Ticket marketing somehow.

On your point about the D-Line rotation, I was wondering what the hell Gun was thinking as well. I think the coaches convinced themselves in TC that they actually had "depth" on the D-Line. If depth means having warm fat bodies to put in, then they have depth, but my definition includes warm fat bodies that can make plays and not give up 50-yard running plays right up the middle.

ChiTown
09-17-2004, 09:09 AM
The Chiefs are going to beat Carolina this weekend like a 14 yr old's noodle, whose parents are gone and the scrambled pron channel is coming in pretty well.



Gawd, I remember those days..........What was that series on Cinemax called................EMMANUELA! Does anyone remember that? Late night porn on Skinamax. We didn't have the pay channels, but if you fiddled with the cable enough, you could get a decent view of what was going on.

Iowanian
09-17-2004, 09:11 AM
we just had country cable(2-3 channels of network).........

I was just kidding........I don't know what that meant, I just heard other kids say it.

Baby Lee
09-17-2004, 09:47 AM
Why is it nearly every other position can play every snap but D-linmen need so much rest?
Why can people run a marathon, but weightlifters get tired after 20 or so reps?

D-Linemen are pushing heavy people around. Everyone else is avoiding contact, except the O-Lineman. But O-Lineman are fending off as opposed to pushing.

Demonpenz
09-17-2004, 10:10 AM
i bet the chiefs loose this weekend, causing me to run to my computer to see the imploding threads

King_Chief_Fan
09-17-2004, 10:14 AM
Why can people run a marathon, but weightlifters get tired after 20 or so reps?

D-Linemen are pushing heavy people around. Everyone else is avoiding contact, except the O-Lineman. But O-Lineman are fending off as opposed to pushing.

If they do their job.......they can take a blow after they hold the other team's offense to 3 and out.

King_Chief_Fan
09-17-2004, 10:15 AM
With the way our O-line pulls and gets downfield I think they work just as hard as their defensive counterparts. There is something to be said for continuity.

The o line is not on the field as long as those d line guys!