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KCJohnny
09-19-2004, 03:11 PM
I've been away from the NFL. Is it just me, or has Saunders really cut Holmes out of the passing game a lot? He used to really get a lot of touches in the air which kept the other defense honest. Didn't Priest lead the team in receiving one season? He caught 2 for -2 yds against the Donx and had 3 for 16 today.

It sure seems that the chiefs O is getting more one-dimensional. Richardson used to be a big part of the receiving game as well. Dang, Carolina was hitting back up TEs, the FB, the 3rd string WRs, the towel boy, etc...

Teams seem to be betting on keeping Priest as tight as they can, double teaming Tony "I'm as good as a WR" Gonzales and daring the chiefs to use anybody else. It seems to be working.

:(

Valiant
09-19-2004, 03:20 PM
I've been away from the NFL. Is it just me, or has Saunders really cut Holmes out of the passing game a lot? He used to really get a lot of touches in the air which kept the other defense honest. Didn't Priest lead the team in receiving one season? He caught 2 for -2 yds against the Donx and had 3 for 16 today.

It sure seems that the chiefs O is getting more one-dimensional. Richardson used to be a big part of the receiving game as well. Dang, Carolina was hitting back up TEs, the FB, the 3rd string WRs, the towel boy, etc...

Teams seem to be betting on keeping Priest as tight as they can, double teaming Tony "I'm as good as a WR" Gonzales and daring the chiefs to use anybody else. It seems to be working.

:(


He does not want to be part of the recieving game.. He wants to save himself for bigger runs, when the O doesnt hold...

KCJohnny
09-19-2004, 03:25 PM
Its amazing, because the Chiefs 2-minute offense is to run Holmes...

...It just seemed like he was a bigger threat when he was involved in the passing game, a la Faulk. If we don't get some help on the perimeter game, even a Priest Holmes won't be enough.

2bikemike
09-19-2004, 04:10 PM
He does not want to be part of the recieving game.. He wants to save himself for bigger runs, when the O doesnt hold...

Well we need to get back to our winning ways and that means moving the ball around and getting it into Priests hands in several different ways. He definately needs to be more involved he only had like 19 touches today. :mad:

Raiderhader
09-19-2004, 04:13 PM
I'm more concerned about him getting the ball in running the game. AS has this tendency (and has over the past three seasons) to want to prove his high octane passing game is just as good as Holmes. It might be if you have a real threat at WR, and we don't. If we get a running game established with Priest, everything else will start to fall in to place.


BTW Johnny, it's good to see you back safe and sound.

Iowanian
09-19-2004, 04:15 PM
Welcome back to the post game pissing match.

I Think Saunders spilled Gunther's spit cup on the playbook and can no longer read the Swing pass and screens for running backs, page.

go bowe
09-19-2004, 04:17 PM
I'm more concerned about him getting the ball in running the game. AS has this tendency (and has over the past three seasons) to want to prove his high octane passing game is just as good as Holmes. It might be if you have a real threat at WR, and we don't. If we get a running game established with Priest, everything else will start to fall in to place.


BTW Johnny, it's good to see you back safe and sound.same here... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

2bikemike
09-19-2004, 04:18 PM
I'm more concerned about him getting the ball in running the game. AS has this tendency (and has over the past three seasons) to want to prove his high octane passing game is just as good as Holmes. It might be if you have a real threat at WR, and we don't. If we get a running game established with Priest, everything else will start to fall in to place.


BTW Johnny, it's good to see you back safe and sound.

You know I was thinking the same thing. I didn't know when he came back and thought he may have been back a while and I just missed it.

So to you KCJohnny :toast: My most sincere gratitude for your service and welcome back.

go bowe
09-19-2004, 04:20 PM
Welcome back to the post game pissing match.

I Think Saunders spilled Gunther's spit cup on the playbook and can no longer read the Swing pass and screens for running backs, page.it looked like carolina's d was just too fast, both on the d line and lb's...

no use calling plays that won't work...

some of the swing/short passes that were called didn't do much either...

and the perimeter running game just didn't look good, but i think that has more to do with carolina's defense than anything...

Raiderhader
09-19-2004, 04:22 PM
You know I was thinking the same thing. I didn't know when he came back and thought he may have been back a while and I just missed it.

So to you KCJohnny :toast: My most sincere gratitude for your service and welcome back.


Today is the first day I have seen him posting. Frankly, I was shocked.

Iowanian
09-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Its going to be easy to piss and moan about the offenses production...but.....Both the Donks and the Panthers have very, very stout defenses.

The fact that our defense didn't dominate a rebuilt line again this week, gave up huge numbers on the ground is just preparation. The offense is going to have to piggy back the team again.

I have faith, that the Offense will find its rythem and success again. I have faith that the Defense will improve enough to allow the offense to get in the game.

The defense holding ANY opponent to 24 points should be enough to win....especially at home, and when the defense puts up 7pnts.

go bowe
09-19-2004, 04:29 PM
Its going to be easy to piss and moan about the offenses production...but.....Both the Donks and the Panthers have very, very stout defenses.

The fact that our defense didn't dominate a rebuilt line again this week, gave up huge numbers on the ground is just preparation. The offense is going to have to piggy back the team again.

I have faith, that the Offense will find its rythem and success again. I have faith that the Defense will improve enough to allow the offense to get in the game.

The defense holding ANY opponent to 24 points should be enough to win....especially at home, and when the defense puts up 7pnts.i think that was true last year, when our o routinely put up 30 points or more...

but that was against a much easier schedule...

playing good defenses, like the last two and like many to come, our o is not going to score like it did last year...

the d will have to hold opponents to a lot less than 24 if we want to win more than a handful of games this year...

KCJohnny
09-19-2004, 04:59 PM
I agree that the Panthers D was awesome. That is no shame on KC. The Panthers are the defending NFC champs. The Chiefs have only bagged four Ws in the last 9 tries. I don't like that trend. Just seemed like Holmes was a way to spread the ball around the field in the air. SOMEbody needs to step up on offense, even if its a rookie. I think Hall needs more touches on offense. I mean, what good is it to start him at WR and not use him? Is there any D out there afraid of Johnny "you want me to jump up THERE?" Morton?

htismaqe
09-19-2004, 08:15 PM
Priest in the passing game?

How about just "WHAT HAPPENED TO PRIEST?"

Al Saunders completely took him out of the game. Giving the best RB in the league 16 carries is inexcusable.

Demonpenz
09-19-2004, 08:17 PM
WHAT HAPPENED TO TAKING CAPS LOCK OFF?

tk13
09-19-2004, 08:27 PM
From a KC Star article I posted this morning about having to give teams heavy doses of Priest:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98984

“I'm not really one to complain about carries,” Holmes says. “There was a time when I wasn't getting carries. Anybody would like to be in this position. Once you get into that seat, you try to ride it as long as you can.

“The only thing I've said I want less of is receptions. I'm old school. I feel that's the responsibility of the wide receiver. That's why you pay him. He's the one that should be having 1,000 or 1,200 yards and having the 80 to 90 catches. I don't believe a back should have to do those kinds of things. But the game has changed. You see backs like LaDainian (Tomlinson) with 100 catches. I've had three seasons in a row with more than 60 catches.”

There you go. I do think Priest has say in what we call on offense. I remember last year when they did that "7 days to Monday Night" or whatever it is they do at halftime on MNF, Al specifically asks Priest at one point which draw plays he likes and wants for the coming week....

PastorMikH
09-19-2004, 08:43 PM
Glad to see you back around Johnny!



I agree with Htismaqe, 16 touches is crazy. Priest was the only part of our offense that was working today and we didn't use him. Inexcusable.:shake:

Raiderhader
09-19-2004, 08:48 PM
From a KC Star article I posted this morning about having to give teams heavy doses of Priest:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=98984



There you go. I do think Priest has say in what we call on offense. I remember last year when they did that "7 days to Monday Night" or whatever it is they do at halftime on MNF, Al specifically asks Priest at one point which draw plays he likes and wants for the coming week....


And I have no problem with that, so long as AS actually gives him the plays in a significant quantity.

Of course I cannot decide if this says something bad or good about our OC.....