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Pasta Little Brioni 11-11-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105443)
I guess I don't get how an 8 team playoff where no team has more than one loss would water down the regular season. If anything, it might encourage some better early season games. Right now, for contending teams, the only goal is to schedule teams you know can't beat you. Trying to increase strength of schedule and test yourself in the non-con isn't worth the risk of potentially losing a game and ending your season in week 1.

The season is watered down under the current setup because a full third of the season (4 out of 12 games) are glorified scrimmages. 68 basketball teams making the postseason waters down the regular season as well. Football would be well served to meet in the middle, and an 8 team playoff would be nuts.

Can you imagine something along the lines of:

Week 1: KSU vs. Clemson, Notre Dame vs. Florida State, Oregon vs. Florida, Ohio State vs. Alabama.

Week 2: KSU vs. Alabama, Notre Dame vs. Oregon

Week 3: KSU vs. Oregon

Bama beat KSU 7 out of 10 dice rolls. Their Level 10 defense with SEC speed bonus was too much even when Optimus Klein was put into play. Why play the game, when it's already been decided!!!

Saul Good 11-11-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 9105446)
Once college football goes from being a judged sport, like batoon twirling and skateboarding, to having a real playoff system in place we'll see how great the SEC is. The chiefs have been drafting their douchey players for years and nearly all have been historic busts.

I'm pretty sure we've seen how great the SEC is for a decade now.

In the past 10 seasons, the SEC has won 7 of 9 national titles. In one of the two years they didn't win it, Auburn was undefeated but didn't get to play in the title game.

The final rankings in the last 10 seasons (including current rankings for this year because it's all we've got), the SEC has had 4, 4, 5, 4, 5, 4, 2, 5, 4, and 6 teams ranked in the top 15. For those of you who hated seeing two SEC teams in the title game last year, you probably don't want an 8 team playoff.

Saul Good 11-11-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105452)
Why would it push teams to strengthen their schedule? An undefeated shit schedule in a major conference will get you in the top 8 (See Big East and Possibly the old Big 12). There would be zero incentive to schedule any tough games.

Boise State would immediately want to go back to their old conference, too.

Because there are several teams who would be competing for a spot in the playoff. Right now, if you're picking a top 8, the following teams would be fighting for one of the last spots:

aTm
Stanford
Clemson
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Louisville
LSU
Georgia
Florida State

notorious 11-11-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105459)
For those of you who hated seeing two SEC teams in the title game last year, you probably don't want an 8 team playoff.

No, we don't want to see weaker teams get a shot at upsetting a team that played better during the season.

notorious 11-11-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105462)
Because there are several teams who would be competing for a spot in the playoff. Right now, if you're picking a top 8, the following teams would be fighting for one of the last spots:

aTm
Stanford
Clemson
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Louisville
LSU
Georgia
Florida State

Why do any of those teams deserve a chance at playing for a title?

Saul Good 11-11-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105465)
Why do any of those teams deserve a chance at playing for a title?

Georgia, for one, has played a monster schedule and lost only one game. They would easily be undefeated if they had played Oregon's schedule. One off week versus a bunch of great wins over top teams isn't worse than beating up a bunch of rummies.

notorious 11-11-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105473)
Georgia, for one, has played a monster schedule and lost only one game. They would easily be undefeated if they had played Oregon's schedule. One off week versus a bunch of great wins over top teams isn't worse than beating up a bunch of rummies.

This post is going to be great when Georgia moves into the top 4. LMAO

Saul Good 11-11-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105475)
This post is going to be great when Georgia moves into the top 4. LMAO

They won't. SEC will be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, though.

Also, here's a little something from Sagarin:

B12 total games vs. Top 10 oppenents: 14
SEC total games vs. Top 10 oppenents: 44

Reerun_KC 11-11-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105416)
Next year Bama's loss is irrelavent.


An 8 team tourney would dilute the season. Be careful what you wish for.

spending too much time on the oxygen mask lately?

stevenidol 11-11-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105465)
Why do any of those teams deserve a chance at playing for a title?

Because they play in different conferences with completely different schedules. Until the top tier teams actually play each other, you are deciding who is better based on speculation and then handing out a trophy. This is why college football championships are, and always will be, a farce.

notorious 11-11-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105483)
They won't. SEC will be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, though.

Also, here's a little something from Sagarin:

B12 total games vs. Top 10 oppenents: 14
SEC total games vs. Top 10 oppenents: 44

Where oh where did I compare Big 12 to the SEC?

notorious 11-11-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too (Post 9105483)
They won't. SEC will be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, though.

2-3 weeks left. Georgia can beat Bama and get into the top 3-4, or even higher.

Saul Good 11-11-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105521)
Where oh where did I compare Big 12 to the SEC?

You didn't.

notorious 11-11-2012 09:42 AM

I just don't want games like Bama yesterday, KSUvs. AM back in 98', etc. to become irrelevant. The entire season is almost like a gigantic playoff in which every game counts.


4 team playoff allow the cream of the top conferences to make it in.

Saul Good 11-11-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9105539)
I just don't want games like Bama yesterday, KSUvs. AM back in 98', etc. to become irrelevant. The entire season is almost like a gigantic playoff in which every game counts.


4 team playoff allow the cream of the top conferences to make it in.

It wouldn't be irrelevant. It would have launched aTm back into the race. What you seem to want is a sport where half of the teams have nothing to play for after the first week, and 98% have nothing to play for by week 10.

By your logic, the season should have ended last year after Oklahoma State lost and left LSU as the last undefeated team.


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