I might be a Geno homer but I do my research on them all. haha

Yup same here....

And IDK if I should be ashamed of this or not, but I tried to read Geno's palm based off a google image picture one night.

And I'm not a palm reader..

BUT!!!!

I learned that he has a long "fate" line. :)

That's how far I've gone. And it's only February.

oh boy!!! lol

To say Bray has "decent" arm strength is as ignorant as it gets. Out of all the QBs in this draft, he has the strongest by far.

um nobody said he had decent arm strength. put the gun down

Bray sucks

When I said decent I didn't mean average or anything like that. What I was really meaning to say is that his arm strength is great, but he uses poor mechanics which really hinders his ball placement on the receivers. Arm strength is just not something I put a ton of stock into unless you're in the red zone. He gets it there fast, but that's about it. Like I've said, he worked with the best WR duo in the country. Hunter and Patterson are both freaks, especially Patterson, and yet he could only get Patterson 46 catches on the year, yet Patterson might be the best WR in this class.

I might've. At least I remember saying that to someone at some point.

thats all you really said on him... i went back a couple pages and didn't see anyone say his arm was decent. least not in this thread

Back to Ryan Nassib:

I don't know where secondroundstats got their info, but of the games I charted Nassib only completed 48% of his deep passes, further than 20 yards. And the issues I have is that his passes weren't well placed.

He's a "spot" thrower. In other words a timing passer, and not a great one at that.

He would've benefited from having a good receiver, but Syracuse was pretty weak at WR this year. They had plenty of drops. His game Vs Northwestern was not pretty, and they ranked 84th in the FBS in pass defense.

He threw a ridiculous 45 passes under 10 yards, and really wasn't that accurate at it considering he was throwing lasers from 5 feet away. His halfbacks on the checkdowns were just trying to cover their face to avoid a broken nose.

His pocket awareness is fairly average. At times made good adjustments to step up and make a throw, and he was abused vs Rutgers. I almost couldn't put those sacks on him. His O-line was giving him no time to throw. The best games by far were the ones against Mizzou, and Louisville. He has tools to work with, but it's gonna take a lot of time, and adjusts for him to work out at the next level. Whichever team he goes to can expect plenty of interceptions.

I said it in my head then.

I was thinking it a few days ago, so I'm guilty. But I've clarified.

Finally beginning a little bit on Barkley...

thanks for the info on nassib, kind of what i thought aswell, good toolset but needs alot of work and molding to make right. would fit in good with a WCO and very good coaching to help bring him along. I think he needs to work on his footwork and anticipation or feel of his WR's better.

I just watched barkley against Stanford.. Looking forward to your take on it as opposed to mine.

STFU n00b. Such a dumbass I swear. Don't address me ever again. Seriously. ****ing prick.

As long as you think this, it makes me like him moreso.

And obligatory
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If you like someone of low character, go ahead and draft Bray... I won't stop you.

In reality guys like Barkley, Nassib and even Wilson are going to take a little time to groom and this is where the whole talk of bringing in a FA QB like Alex Smith comes into the picture. Sure we all want the new drafted QB to play right away but in this class it might not happen immediately. Of course this is all based on the fact if we pass on Geno at #1 which could be a possibility.

Yep because every QB in this draft has to be ****ing Andrew Luck or RGIII. JFC all of yall are scared as shit it's pathetic. If they get drafted in the first round, they start. Plain and simple. Especially top 10. And Alex Smith sucks.