One thing I noticed in the chat was you were acting too eager. Help with this, compliment that, help with something else...

She's already established you don't have a life if you're available all the time to some stranger. Now, some girls are Ok with that but those are the type that want to run your life and they're the worst kind IMO.

jcroft, with your in depth analysis at it's current pace, one of the Mods is going to change your user name to Dr. Phil. You were warned. :D

ROFL Yeah, you're just waiting for the RIGHT ONE. ROFL

Now I have to tiptoe around the american vernacular? I thought I was supposed to have some balls.

I'm also not much for wine or beer. But, I wouldn't tell them that if you don't have to. Some (stupid) girls will take this to mean you aren't sophisticated (wine) or manly (beer). Find a few cocktails you like that aren't too girly for when you meet in person. As someone who seems to make a habit of being mistaken for gay, I can assure you that people make judgments based on what you are drinking (it's stupid, but they do it).

gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"

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Another hint: she's not a guy, you putz. Most females don't like to be spoken to as if they were one of your guy friends.

I gotta be me.

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That sounds all swell and good but you have to decide what your core beliefs are and be ready to comprimise the rest.

I'm not the same man I was when my wife and I met. I do things differently. I work more, I'm more focused, etc. I would happily space off for a week or more before we got together. However, I wasn't dead set that I would space off, it wasn't a core value. So I comprimised that out of my life.

Also, your nerd-dom isn't a core value. I NEVER speak to my wife about the details of my work. She couldn't care less. It isn't who I am anyway, no more than gmail is who you are.

"I gotta be me"

In that case dude..........you need to just find yourself some Half ton Home Bound (Gilbert Grape's mother) and pretend she's Jabba the Hutt.

Okay here is my advice,

I'm not the best at picking chicks up, kinda of on the shy side, but when I do chicks love me. Be nice, compliant them on everything, be a man that is the most important thing. Tell them the cool stuff about you, not geeky stuff. Also about the money thing, I will admit my family is fairly well off which, we are not wealthy but we live very comfortable, is something I try to avoid at all costs around girls. One I want them to like me cause of who I am and not because what we have.

Also a big thing is the apartment/pad/house this is the big key. If you are a college age guy, the beer posters and playboy pictures are fine for a dorm room but if you live off campus dont put that stuff up. Make your living area look like a man's place and not a kids. Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.

Okay, overall, you're not so bad, Mr. Gochiefs. The most important thing I can say is avoid that nerd talk. Some girls like nerdy guys. But that doesn't mean they want to talk about digital cameras and gmail. It means they think it's cute if you have glasses and are kind of skinny. If a girl really is a geek herself, you'll figure it out and you can talk about gmail to your little heart's content. Until then, just stop it. :)

Also, I'd probably avoid telling drunken stories right away -- although this girl didn't seem to mind it.

The other big thing here is that, while it wasn't really a BAD conversation, you didn't seem that interested in getting to know her. I think you ought to be asking more questions about her. Where's she from? What's her family like? What kind of music does she like (you kind of got into this a little bit)? What does she like to do for fun? Where does she work? Etc. Girls, in general, love to have a guy really talk to her and seem interested in getting to know more about her.

And don't forget to ask if she does anal.

Those things aren't part of my "core values" either. That's all the more reason she shouldn't have a problem with them. If she does.... :shake: