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Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 10:24 AM

Here's my only problem - what variation of the Coryell system used big receivers? It seems like we have the personnel now to switch to the west coast w/power running (ala Seahawks and Packers), but we're stuck with an offensive coordinator that's never run that system and a quarterback who knows Coryell. What now?

KCJohnny 01-08-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Here's my only problem - what variation of the Coryell system used big receivers? It seems like we have the personnel now to switch to the west coast w/power running (ala Seahawks and Packers), but we're stuck with an offensive coordinator that's never run that system and a quarterback who knows Coryell. What now?

Just keep "Remember the Titans" away from Herm. They had 6 plays.

Mr. Laz 01-08-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oz_Chief
They won't include a new coordinator. Edwards said Mike Solari would continue in that job no matter what type of offense the Chiefs use.

But they will simplify by cutting back on the number of plays and their complexities

Dear lord ... i think i just puked in my mouth a little. :Lin:



:banghead:

you don't change offenses WITHOUT changing the offense staff. This is not an attack on Solari ... but you really don't want your Offensive Coordinator learning the system while trying to teach the new system to the players.

that is just a disaster waiting to happen

the same stupid ass thing Vermeil did with the defense




simplify .... cutting back on plays???

holy crap, how much simplier can a gameplan be than what we ran against the colts.


i feel sick ... i really feel sick :sulk:

txhawk 01-08-2007 10:34 AM

As far as Solari goes, I'm not his biggest proponent. But in his defense, how can an OC feel comfortable calling pass plays downfield when the WR's can't get separation. The perfect pass is not a way to base your offense passing. Let Tony G go, use his money to get some WR help. Kennison is a borderline number two. Parker shouldn't see the field, and it's time Dante moves on. Use Bennett as KR/PR.

KCJohnny 01-08-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by txhawk
As far as Solari goes, I'm not his biggest proponent. But in his defense, how can an OC feel comfortable calling pass plays downfield when the WR's can't get separation. The perfect pass is not a way to base your offense passing. Let Tony G go, use his money to get some WR help. Kennison is a borderline number two. Parker shouldn't see the field, and it's time Dante moves on. Use Bennett as KR/PR.

Herm said Solari was "learning the passing game" this year.
:shake:

crazycoffey 01-08-2007 10:38 AM

HEY Herm Haters!!!

I got this to say, you have to at least respect the idea that he is seriously looking at his philosophy and his player's abilities, the success and failures this year and willing to change to become better, and this makes you bit*h at him?

They ran the same offense, but the playcalling was more conservative, exp. when green went down. We've all heard how complex the playbooks are, the motions, the amount of looks, etc. Maybe it is time for that offense to go away, the players aren't the same for it anymore.

My point is; it takes a man to admit he's wrong and make changes, hard as hell for me personally, and to have herm already saying he want's to look at this, means he won't be sitting around doing nothing, he'll be proactive to make improvments, not going to off to make wine.

Archie Bunker 01-08-2007 10:38 AM

No system will work with this bad of an o-line and that is all on Carl.

Shields is done, Wiegman has declined, and I have no hope for any of the flunkies the Chiefs used at either tackle position. Outstide of maybe Waters the Chiefs have giant holes all across the OL. Carl had plenty of time to groom replacements and he didn't get it done.

crazycoffey 01-08-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
Herm said Solari was "learning the passing game" this year.
:shake:


That has to mean, learning how to call pass plays with our WR corp. truely a challenge, I'm sure

Reerun_KC 01-08-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu
:hmmm: Herm and offense did not appear in the same sentence anywhere in that post.


Well damn. But they dont belong anyway....

crap, look like doorknob this morning.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
That has to mean, learning how to call pass plays with our WR corp. truely a challenge, I'm sure


AS didnt have much trouble.... Cant be that challenging?

Unless you are being Lead by Herm, then masturbating with a cheesegrader become challenging to say the least.

blackhawk 01-08-2007 10:45 AM

o just great next year no first downs!

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
No system will work with this bad of an o-line and that is all on Carl.

:clap:

We have to hope that Black can play RG and Terry can play RT. I think replacing two starters on the OL with outside talent is the best we can hope for. Any more than that and it will be a disaster.

htismaqe 01-08-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
you don't change offenses WITHOUT changing the offense staff. This is not an attack on Solari ... but you really don't want your Offensive Coordinator learning the system while trying to teach the new system to the players.

In this case, you DO change the offense and keep the offensive coordinator.

Why?

Because Mike Solari was never allowed to call HIS offense. This was HERM'S offense all along.

Fire Me Boy! 01-08-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC
That is pretty laughable..

Herm and offense in the same sentence...

Herm's gameplan was offensive.

There, I did it and it works 100 percent.

WilliamTheIrish 01-08-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
HEY Herm Haters!!!

I got this to say, you have to at least respect the idea that he is seriously looking at his philosophy and his player's abilities, the success and failures this year and willing to change to become better, and this makes you bit*h at him?

.

I heard this all before. It was called "Getting yardage in chunks" and it was espoused by Marty. It blew chunks. Personally, I don't believe a word from Herm because he's Carl's hand puppet. Much the same way Gunther was.

We are simply moving away from Coryell ball to the straight ahead Martyocre power running/play action game. In effect, going backwards in (football) time.

What we saw in the playoffs is what we'll see in the regular season next year. And there won't be any significant changes in personell. We'll have the same QB, and the same porous OLine.
It'll just be more conservative to protect the aged QB.


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