Since Herm arrived?

“I’m tired of it and don’t want to play this style of football,” Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez said. “It’s not what I’m into. I don’t think Herm (Edwards) wants to. We want to win. Let’s get it over with.

Maybe I'm not seeeing how he called Herm out. He said,"It's not what I'm into. I don't think Herm wants to." :hmmm:

Let's hope not. Our Defense BLOWS against the run. It's been that way all year. Nap Harris is no better than Mitchell was. This defense folds late in games the same way DV's did. Now, that might be becaise the offense is the worst in football and the defense is on the field for so long, but still, though improved, this defeense is nothing to hang your hat on.

and to think Herm will stay employed. Gunther was gone after 2 seasons. His record was .500. Herm's......TBD.

While he didnt come right out & say "I'm sick to death of Herms style", he might as well have.

He took a direct swipe at Herms stated philosophy, which is to keep it close until the second half & hang on tight for the win.

But to be fair to Herm & Solari, i totally agree with those who've said that we DID try to open it up today...spread, tricks, 4th&whatever, 1st down passing etc.

But the line & Huard werent up to the task, to me THAT is the story behind this loss.

I agree. However, Herm KNEW what we had in the OL and QB BEFORE the season. He was Okay with it. He instructed us to "dummy-down the offense". You can't just turn it on when you want if you've been running things a certain way for so long. We CHOSE this path. Herm's been here long enough to be held accountable for part of the mess. It's not all DV's fault. Why some give him a free pass is beyond me. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

[QUOTE=scott free]While he didnt come right out & say "I'm sick to death of Herms style", he might as well have.

But to be fair to Herm & Solari, i totally agree with those who've said that we DID try to open it up today...spread, tricks, 4th&whatever, 1st
down passing etc.
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Horrid locked on to TG did not look at another player ,so I will not give Solari or Herm any credit other then being bad game mangers

Tony regrets resigning every day....he career will end playing Herm ball.

The whole philosophy of "playing to maybe get lucky in the 4th quarter" is outmoded...it is stupid and cowardly. It is also the essence of Herm Edwards.

You can't play to "stay close." You have to play to win...from the very first snap.

But Tony knows, we never have a chance because our coach gives up before the game even starts. He's a coward and a loser.

The War is already won before the battle is ever fought with Herm Edwards... /Bill Belichek

Wait so the board sucks now because people don't like Herm or how the organization is doing things?

Yep, unless we follow Herm blindly and drink Carls Red Koo-Aid, we are not fans.

Maybe they should move over to WPI and post....

See shit like that pisses me off. If you weren't a fan you wouldn't care at all....honestly part of being a fan is to show your displeasure when the organization does stupid things.

If everyone just sat back and swallowed it..well you get things like Carl for 19 years and that makes you an enabler..so how's that make them "better fans"?

I'm sick of Tony's post game whining. When the season ended last year he made a comment about how tiring it was to continually lose and he wasn't sure where he would end up playing. Then Carl offers to make him the highest paid TE in the game (again) and he's happy to sign on the dotted line. At the time he signed his extension he knew damn well the direction the team was headed and the philosophy of the head coach. He could have tried to insist on some changes, etc., but he was happy with the cash.

That's where I'm sitting. There was a lot of rebuilding to be done after last year and it seems we started defense first. I think the FO really underestimated the rate of decline on our line. We were respectable last year and it seems the conventional wisdom was that if we could get respectable play out of Shields' replacement we'd be respectable.

No.

Huard had a better line last year and looked better. So did LJ for that matter.

We have more playmakers this year (Bowe, Gonzo, Smith, LJ) than last year but we can't string together long drives because we can't get consistent play out of the line.

It'll get worse before it gets better...cdcox perfectly explained why.