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Halfcan 12-28-2007 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I think the Chiefs care far more about making money than they do about winning Superbowls.

I think they care more where they rate in Forbes in value of NFL franchises than they do in Superbowl championships.

This post is money right there-no pun intended.

Even Clark knows its all the fair weather, pussy Chiefs fans fault that the season and team sucks. We need to man up and take the blame.

Halfcan 12-28-2007 10:20 PM

I opened up a chiefs shirt for Christmas and threw up a little in the back of my mouth.

greg63 12-28-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan
This post is money right there-no pun intended.

Even Clark knows its all the fair weather, pussy Chiefs fans fault that the season and team sucks. We need to man up and take the blame.

What's up dude?

Messier 12-28-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE


If you want to go ahead and picket Arrowhead with signs calling for Carl and Herm to be fired, go ahead. And if it works and Hunt fires Herm and Carl directly because of this grassroots effort I will admit all the hatred worked .

On a side note Goatse, I still remember you as a Herm supporter, I know you've changed your mind, but really? This far? From Herm's not bad, to Herm must go, let's protest. All in one season, well, really more like half a season.

Halfcan 12-28-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by greg63
What's up dude?

In between looking at the Girlie thread-I am writing a snotty letter to Carl- I am beggining to not like his attitude- :)

Iowanian 12-28-2007 11:25 PM

I have no doubt that the Hunt family loves the team that Lamar built. I have zero doubt about that. I can't imagine that Clark and Co don't want this team to be successful, for both their financial gain, but to honor his father's memory and hard work.

I will however have to SEE action.

He HAS to know this isn't about 1 year. Its not about the last 10 years of suck.....Its about the 20something years of suck since the past superbowl appearance, interupted only by a decade of hope and gutwrenching disappointment in the 90s.

This Loyal fanbase deserves better.

Logical 12-29-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
What other GM has total control of being president and CEO?

Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder to name two, course they also own their teams.

greg63 12-29-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan
In between looking at the Girlie thread-I am writing a snotty letter to Carl- I am beggining to not like his attitude- :)

Ooooo! can I sign it too?

kc1977 12-29-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Would he care if he were aware? I'm wondering if we need to tattle on the idiots over at Arrowhead.

I haven't the time, but maybe if someone were to print all the kcchiefs.com columns in which Chiefs fans are insulted and degraded and highlight the specific lines that seem over-the-top. Send it to Clark in Dallas or where ever he's residing these days. Perhaps that would impact his offseason decisions.

Insulting the fan-base is so chicken-shit it's embarrassing. I wonder what would happen if I started insulting my customers two or three times a week. These homeowners are so stupid they don't deserve to even own homes. Wow.

Is this a dumb idea?

I think the behavior coming out of One Arrowhead is just pathetic. I've followed the Chiefs and NFL in general for as long as I've had access to a television. But I'm very quickly being driven to watch Saturday football and it has little to do with how badly my Chiefs are performing.

This is just a case of the fans thinking they actually have any power. Get real. I live in St. Loser, and to my delight, the Cardinals do this to their fans, too. But guess what, THEY KEEP COMING, just like Chiefs fans. And they aren't going anywhere, just like Chiefs fans.

Sure, their stadiums may get marginally emptier, but those tickets are still sold. Pro sports is all about status these days, and being at the big event is more a social status thing than wanting to go see the big event. So, if teams are losing, people will just not go. But give up their right to go if it suddenly becomes a big event again? No.

Pro Sports has changed. They've priced out the fans that actually care about sports. I won't go to more than 1 game per year, as that's all I can take of continually having people go on their beer runs right in front of me as a play is going on.

Dipshits care more about refilling their beer than watching the play on the field. They want to get drunk at their social event.

That's pro sports for you.

And that's why this thread is silly.

siberian khatru 12-29-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kc1977
This is just a case of the fans thinking they actually have any power. Get real. I live in St. Loser, and to my delight, the Cardinals do this to their fans, too. But guess what, THEY KEEP COMING, just like Chiefs fans. And they aren't going anywhere, just like Chiefs fans.

At least the Cardinals won a championship a couple of years ago.

I'd put up with a lot of Carl's BS if he could deliver on his arrogance. Bill Belichick is a bigger dickbag than Carl, but he has every right to be. If I were a Patriots fan, and BB told me to my face to **** off, I'd still kiss his ass for giving me a shitload of Super Bowls.

ChiefsCountry 12-29-2007 12:23 PM

I think Clark and the family are aware of the problems. Heck its Clark's little brother moved to KC to run the stadium renovation project, to be the overseer. So Peterson isnt the one in charge of that. I think Peterson might be on the hot seat more than Herm.

Mecca 12-29-2007 12:26 PM

If you fire a GM and hire a new one, the coach basically can't be retained. He's going to want his guys, if you make him retain people then he's a lame duck or he isn't gonna take the job..

Sounds familiar with this organization.

ChiefsCountry 12-29-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
If you fire a GM and hire a new one, the coach basically can't be retained. He's going to want his guys, if you make him retain people then he's a lame duck or he isn't gonna take the job..

Sounds familiar with this organization.

Not neccessarilly. I think you can give a new GM a year to see if he wants to keep the coach or not.

Mecca 12-29-2007 12:37 PM

That's just something that never happens, especially after you just won 4 or 5 games...

It's like Carl making people be retained, it makes guys lame ducks and real coaches wouldn't take the job with those guidelines.

FringeNC 12-29-2007 01:13 PM

I was thinking....

Even if Carl is not on the hot seat with Clark, is he not on the hot seat around KC? Imagine what it must be like for him. He is a hated public figure. And I doubt his ego can handle that very well.

So...if you are Carl, and you want to placate the fans for awhile, and shift focus away from your own failures, what can you do? Throw Herm under the bus. My guess is that Carl realizes he has to shake things up a little, and the question is whether firing Solari will be enough to buy Carl some time. Herm probably won't be shit-canned, but I think the chances are higher than a lot of people think -- It's not that much of a long-shot. Gun only got two years, and we were never at these depths under Gun.


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