Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4630162)

Being a successful and "one of the most educated" communities in the U.S. is not an achievement for you? You have to research this yourself. How about reading on Omid Kordestan, Senior Vice President of Google's Global Sales and Business Development. Or how about this guy?: http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/omi0bio-1
Or how about this gal?: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/m...larehzadeh.xml
Or how about this dude?: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2005-033
Or how about this woman?: http://www.apbspeakers.com/themes/de...oundation.aspx

These are only a few cases that come to mind immediately. You need to research it yourself if you are truly interested in an answer to your question.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4630715)

Those are Americans, are they not?

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4630755)

Not by birth or upbringing.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4630563)

Born there. Moved here after HS. Really I look at it as a lucky situation and a gift from life. I can pick the best values of both cultures; toss the worst and enjoy jokes, literature, music, food, traditions etc. equally from two different countries. Makes for double the enjoyment of life. That's a gift I have always underlined for my son who was born here to Iranian born parents. Whereas I consider myself 50-50 Iranian-American culturally he is perhaps 30-70. His (future) kids will be 100% American, I guess. It's a fascinating process to observe, really. But then I'm easily fascinated.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4630782)

I asked you about Iranians, not Americans of Iranian origin. I'm well aware of what this country offers to those blessed enough to become American.

So, again, what have Iranians living in Iran done for the world over the last 500+ years?

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4630821)

So you are disqualifying Iranians who assert themselves when given a chance. That's not a tribute to their culture? When political climate inhibits their ability to make a difference they are scum of the earth. I get it.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4630793)

I'm doing some math here. Did you help the Shah load his solid gold toilet on the plane?

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 4630991)

You type really good English for being Iranian!

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4630829)

No, I'm saying that Americans of many national origins have contributed much to society.

What have Iranians contributed recently? How far back does your excuse of political climate inhibiting their ability to make a difference go back?

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4631050)

We seem to be in a circle here. Hopefully we'll get a chance to discuss this face to face. Right now I don't exactly know what you want.

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4631072)

It's quite simple: Americans of Iranian birth aren't Iranians.

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4631151)

You and I have disagreed on this notion before. So let's not go there again. All I say is a light doesn't come on in their heads the minute they get their certificate of citizenship here. They don't instantly get smarter or more talented or less lazy.

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 4631254)

Don't waste logic on that dumbass, donger.