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SAUTO 03-07-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6584340)
I think companies would still ban it's use if there is noway to test it and determine when the person used it~

i had a friend that was driving through a green light, a sixteen year old ran tbe red and my friend hit them and killed his dad. he had pot on his system yet didnt get charged with manslaughter because the pot had already matastisized ?sp? meaning it had already broken it down, so they could tell how long it had been
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beach tribe 03-07-2010 11:33 AM

It is currently, and will always be illegal because it is the cash crop of most urban, and almost all rural legal enforcement agencies. Go to court, 75% of the people there, are there for weed. Nice fines, court costs etc, more than make up for the money they have to pay to actually lock people up for smoking/selling weed.
It will NEVER be legal.

DaFace 03-07-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6584536)
i had a friend that was driving through a green light, a sixteen year old ran tbe red and my friend hit them and killed his dad. he had pot on his system yet didnt get charged with manslaughter because the pot had already matastisized ?sp? meaning it had already broken it down, so they could tell how long it had been
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I think that field sobriety tests still generally work and are admissible in court. Could be wrong though.

Otherwise, yeah, it could be coincidental that he was a pot smoker. He might not have actually smoked for weeks.

DaFace 03-07-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6584547)
It is currently, and will always be illegal because it is the cash crop of most urban, and almost all rural legal enforcement agencies. Go to court, 75% of the people there, are there for weed. Nice fines, court costs etc, more than make up for the money they have to pay to actually lock people up for smoking/selling weed.
It will NEVER be legal.

Do you have a source where you're getting that information? I'm pretty sure the recent California push is based on stats that say the complete opposite of that. Misdemeanor charges might break even, but any time you have to lock somebody up, it costs taxpayers big.

patteeu 03-07-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6584536)
i had a friend that was driving through a green light, a sixteen year old ran tbe red and my friend hit them and killed his dad. he had pot on his system yet didnt get charged with manslaughter because the pot had already matastisized ?sp? meaning it had already broken it down, so they could tell how long it had been
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metabolized is the word you're looking for.

metastasized means that your cancer has spread beyond the confines of it's primary location.

Pants 03-07-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 6583468)
Never ever tried it. If I woke up tomorrow and it was legal, I'd probably get around to trying it eventually.

BL, with your appreciation for films and music, you OWE it to yourself to smoke some good ganj. You've been missing out, good sir! It makes you smarter too (just in a common sense way, ROFL).

KCChiefsMan 03-07-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 6584299)
Just because it's legal doesn't mean employers should change their standards.

Hell, it's legal to be an @$$#ole, but being an @$$#ole will probably also get you fired...

well they don't test for it because of the company's standards. They test you to save on their insurance rates.

patteeu 03-07-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6584849)
It makes you smarter too.

Unfortunately, by the time you sober up, you've forgotten all the earth-shatteringly good ideas you came up with while you were stoned.

chiefzilla1501 03-07-2010 02:33 PM

I don't smoke it, but these are my thoughts:
-Classifying it in one of the most lethal drug classes is ridiculous. It impairs you less than alcohol and is as bad for you as cigarettes and fast food. And equally addicting too.
-Rather than spending a gatrillion dollars fighting a drug war against potheads, how about taxing the hell out of marijuana and collecting money that way? You save money, collect more tax revenue, and you can have DEA focus on the drugs that actually matter
-The only reason it's a gateway drug is because you learn how to buy drugs within the system and you start feeling like a rebel/badass. It's a small leap to test out illegal marijuana. It is an enormous leap to test out illegal cocaine. Guarantee that if marijuana was made legal and accessible, first-time pot users would be much more reluctant to try other drugs.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6584942)
Unfortunately, by the time you sober up, you've forgotten all the earth-shatteringly good ideas you came up with while you were stoned.

Fallacy. You just realize that you were stoned and they weren't that brilliant in the first place. :p

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6584958)
I don't smoke it, but these are my thoughts:
-Classifying it in one of the most lethal drug classes is ridiculous. It impairs you less than alcohol and is as bad for you as cigarettes and fast food. And equally addicting too.
-Rather than spending a gatrillion dollars fighting a drug war against potheads, how about taxing the hell out of marijuana and collecting money that way? You save money, collect more tax revenue, and you can have DEA focus on the drugs that actually matter
-The only reason it's a gateway drug is because you learn how to buy drugs within the system and you start feeling like a rebel/badass. It's a small leap to test out illegal marijuana. It is an enormous leap to test out illegal cocaine. Guarantee that if marijuana was made legal and accessible, first-time pot users would be much more reluctant to try other drugs.

I think a big reason why it's considered a gateway drug is that when kids realize that everyone has been lying to them about pot, they figure they're being lied to about other drugs as well so they have no fear of trying them too.

KCChiefsMan 03-07-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6584958)
I don't smoke it, but these are my thoughts:
-Classifying it in one of the most lethal drug classes is ridiculous. It impairs you less than alcohol and is as bad for you as cigarettes and fast food. And equally addicting too. I disagree. Weed is not addicting whatsoever, you may miss it but you won't have any withdrawals and can quit whenever you wish with ease. It's not nearly as bad for you as cigs if you use a bong. It's not bad for your lungs one tiny bit if you use a vaporizer
-Rather than spending a gatrillion dollars fighting a drug war against potheads, how about taxing the hell out of marijuana and collecting money that way? You save money, collect more tax revenue, and you can have DEA focus on the drugs that actually matter agree
-The only reason it's a gateway drug is because you learn how to buy drugs within the system and you start feeling like a rebel/badass. It's a small leap to test out illegal marijuana. It is an enormous leap to test out illegal cocaine. Guarantee that if marijuana was made legal and accessible, first-time pot users would be much more reluctant to try other drugs. coke complements alcohol, if you are smoking weed you are not going to want cocaine. Most weed smokers know not to mess with other drugs.

I do think it's bad for kids to drink and smoke however

Katipan 03-07-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6584980)
coke complements alcohol, if you are smoking weed you are not going to want cocaine. Most weed smokers know not to mess with other drugs.

While I agree with your last sentence, I've never known someone that did coke that never smoked pot. Ever.

Most coke afficiandos need a downer which is why liquor is so lovely. Plus the whole ingesting a liquid while dripping making your throat numb thing is always fun. But weed works just as well. Better even. It's cheaper.

The amount of liquor I'd have to drink to come down off a teener of coke would be way more expensive than the 20 bag of kine that puts me to sleep.

Neither of which I do anymore. The former because being THAT girl isn't really as much fun as it looks and the latter because I can't afford kine. :P

KCChiefsMan 03-07-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 6584997)
While I agree with your last sentence, I've never known someone that did coke that never smoked pot. Ever.

Most coke afficiandos need a downer which is why liquor is so lovely. Plus the whole ingesting a liquid while dripping making your throat numb thing is always fun. But weed works just as well. Better even. It's cheaper.

The amount of liquor I'd have to drink to come down off a teener of coke would be way more expensive than the 20 bag of kine that puts me to sleep.

Neither of which I do anymore. The former because being THAT girl isn't really as much fun as it looks and the latter because I can't afford kine. :P

ya, if your doing lines of coke you would want weed to come down. But I mean that most "pot heads" stick to pot.

Red Brooklyn 03-07-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG (Post 6584387)
Vaporizer FTW

LMAO

Weed's not my thing. I don't care for the way it makes me feel. But I have no problem with others doing it... of course, other than the smell.

So if you can get everyone to vaporize, I'm totally on board.:thumb:


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