Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7213768)

Oh ok. Youre right....I just asked everyone who knew and they told me you were correct and Cassel sucks, Pioli is a moron etc...

I will never question you again.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7213758)

But the standard has to be clear. We have to get on Cassel's case for the right reasons.

Because an unfair standard is to expect him to continually carry a bad defense and special teams unit and expect him to consistently win games. I ripped on Cassel for his performance against Denver--thought he didn't make plays when he needed to. On the other hand, I think a LOT of people were very unfairly critical of Cassel's performance in Oakland even though the Chiefs got crushed in the running game, on defense, on special teams, and with stupid penalty mistakes. So I don't agree that it's fair to say that we go as Cassel goes. Cassel needs to be sharp in the remaining games, but if he's sharp and the defense gives up 30+ points, there's only so far you can take the blame.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7213763)

sure you do.. you keep repeating it...and you expect him to overcome subpar play from the rest of the squad. in year two of a rebuild...:rolleyes:

excel, despite like the defense played against Houston?

hey matt, the defense just gave up four consecutive TD's in the forth qtr....it's your fault if we lose.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7213742)

Denver is a floundering team right now, in large part because of a lot of internal problems, and we should absolutely piss pound them at Arrowhead.

Cassel will need to play well in SD. Not doing so should be grounds for legitimate criticism because this will, essentially, be a playoff game for this team. All players, especially our most important ones, will need to elevate their game.

I expect to see the best from the likes of Bowe, Charles, Cassel, etc.

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7213743)

Is he the big spoon or the little spoon?

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7213780)

OK, you win. I'm not supposed to defend my position. Got it.:thumb:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7213505)

Wins over NFC West teams do not prove that the Chiefs are not frauds.

They remain frauds until they make the playoffs and prove they belong in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7213770)

I agree that San Diego is a huge test for Cassel but I also believe that if he fails, that doesn't mean that he won't get "it" later this year or before next season.

Like I mentioned earlier, the guy was on the roster at USC and with the Patriots but he hasn't been put in that type of a situation before. He's getting better each week but it won't shock me if he falters because he's really never been in "playoff" type atmosphere in college or the NFL. He may not be prepared for that type of pressure.

If he doesn't perform at a higher level in San Diego but comes back to play at a high level against the final three opponents, I'll have more faith in him the next time he's put in that situation. He's still got a lot to learn but he's most certainly heading in the right direction.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213775)

I'm looking for a post in which anyone said Cassel sucks, or that Pioli is a moron.

I'd ask for a refund from the Meat Dragon School of Trolling, if I were you.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 7213780)

OK, you win. I'm not supposed to defend my position. Got it.:thumb:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7213789)

assuming the worst is a position?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213797)

No, you're just supposed to pass the blame to anyone but Cassel.

I mean, the guy that touches the ball on every offensive play has zero bearing on the game, right?

I don't give a flying **** if the defense gives up 60 points.

That means that Cassel's job is to lead the offense to 61.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7213795)

Oh thats right you always knew he was going to be a solid QB...

ROFL

This is fantastic.....was "school" a hospital for amnesia?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213772)

No offense, Steve, but that's ridiculous, and you know it.

Peyton Manning answered all the questions we have about Cassel in his rookie year, and is nothing less than a Top 5 QB in the history of the NFL.

Sorry, but he gets the benefit of the doubt for having a bad game or two every three years.

Maybe if Cassel shows, just once, that he can do any of the things Manning has been doing consistently for over a decade, you can make that comment again, and I'll only snicker instead of laughing so hard it hurts.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213797)

I don't give a flying **** if the defense gives up 60 points.

That means that Cassel's job is to lead the offense to 61.