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Pioli Zombie 01-10-2011 08:19 PM

Since the Chiefs are obviously set at QB for years and at WR they need to either draft a defensive tackle or draft a left tackle and move Albert to right tackle.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2011 08:22 PM

#1 is QB
#2 is NT
#3 is OLB/WR, they really are interchangeable needs. We don't need a 16 sack guy or a 100 catch WR, we need an 8-10 sack guy or a burner who will catch 55 balls and average about 17 YPC.

Pioli Zombie 01-10-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7344516)
#1 is QB
#2 is NT
#3 is OLB/WR, they really are interchangeable needs. We don't need a 16 sack guy or a 100 catch WR, we need an 8-10 sack guy or a burner who will catch 55 balls and average about 17 YPC.

Yeah who wants 16 sacks when you can have 8 or 100 catches when you can have 55? Wait........WHAT???????

Saul Good 01-10-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 7344592)
Yeah who wants 16 sacks when you can have 8 or 100 catches when you can have 55? Wait........WHAT???????

By your logic, I guess we need a 200 catch guy and a 50 sack guy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 7344592)
Yeah who wants 16 sacks when you can have 8 or 100 catches when you can have 55? Wait........WHAT???????

I'm not saying you'd pass those up, I'm saying those needs aren't as pressing as the need for a QB. Not even close really.

We need a #2 WR with deep speed and a LOLB in the LaMarr Woodley mold.

NT is a bigger need than either one of those, and QB is the biggest by far.

Pioli Zombie 01-10-2011 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7344600)
By your logic, I guess we need a 200 catch guy and a 50 sack guy.

No No No. The Chiefs need a solid guy who can get them a guaranteed 3 sacks and a 30 catch guy who will get 53.5 Yards a catch. And a shiticle qb who you can bet your bottom dollar will get 3,000 yards every ****ing season NO MATTER WHAT!

Pioli Zombie 01-10-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7344615)
I'm not saying you'd pass those up, I'm saying those needs aren't as pressing as the need for a QB. Not even close really.

We need a #2 WR with deep speed and a LOLB in the LaMarr Woodley mold.

NT is a bigger need than either one of those, and QB is the biggest by far.

I actually agree. You have to have a solid NT to even think playing a 3-4. In a perfect world they are Vince Wilfork,Larry Fitzgerald, and a decent QB away from greatness.

Bewbies 01-10-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7344615)
I'm not saying you'd pass those up, I'm saying those needs aren't as pressing as the need for a QB. Not even close really.

We need a #2 WR with deep speed and a LOLB in the LaMarr Woodley mold.

NT is a bigger need than either one of those, and QB is the biggest by far.

:thumb:

el borracho 01-10-2011 09:25 PM

Well, QB would be my draft priority every year until we get an elite one. Unfortunately, I don't believe the Chiefs will a) be in a position to get an elite prospect nor b) be inclined to do so.

Second biggest priority would be a WR to replace Dwayne "No Show" Bowe.

Third priority would be a legit NT.

aturnis 01-11-2011 03:28 AM

First of all, this should have been a public poll. Second, I am VERY surprised there weren't more votes for OLB. One of our top two needs if you ask me.

1. WR
2. OLB
3. C/NT/OT

aturnis 01-11-2011 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7344615)
I'm not saying you'd pass those up, I'm saying those needs aren't as pressing as the need for a QB. Not even close really.

We need a #2 WR with deep speed and a LOLB in the LaMarr Woodley mold.

NT is a bigger need than either one of those, and QB is the biggest by far.

I'm not saying we don't need a QB, b/c even if one were in the Cassel camp, we still obviously need to replace Brodie. Plus, we all know Cassel will get another year. I don't think we take a QB early and I definitely don't think we should, mostly b/c I don't like many of the top guys at all in this draft, and the guys who MIGHT be alright, will not be around.(Gabbert, Newton) I'd really rather take a guy later. WR/OLB are my interchangeable 1 and 2. A guy like Foles won't be there in the 3rd. So I say QB, for me, would be 4th round or later.

Yes, I am an Iowa fan, but I also know we could do A LOT worse(Mallet) than Stanzi. As a backup and a guy to groom, he offers a lot of potential. I'd love to see us take him late if he's sure to get drafted. If not, I pray they get him as a UDFA.

Phobia 01-11-2011 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7343111)
This looks to be one of the deepest WR drafts in years. Why would we look to FA to fill the spot?

I think outside of QB or offensive linemen, WR takes the longest to develop into a dependable starter. While there are exceptions, most the good ones break out in year 3.

salame 01-11-2011 03:55 AM

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Phobia 01-11-2011 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7343570)
KC got lucky San Diego floundered down the stretch.

Lucky? I would submit Clark Hunt got lucky in his wallet and he was the only one. KC got exposed badly.

Wallcrawler 01-11-2011 06:40 AM

Wide receiver has to be addressed. Theres just no way around it. Bowe was completely invisible in the biggest game of the season and there was absolutely nobody else to throw the football to. The offense cant be as one dimensional as it was this season and have success next year. We need a guy, (or two) that can help open up this passing attack and actually get some separation from the defenders.


Defensively, we need a pure nosetackle. A big, badass, pocket collapsing nosetackle that is going to take away that ability for the opposing QB to step up when Hali comes screaming off the edge to destroy him albeit in the clutches of a full on sleeper hold. A guy who commands two blockers in the running game and helps protect for our linebackers. We get that, this defense improves immensely, immediately.


The third for me is a tossup. I selected OLB to get another pass rusher to complement Hali, but just as badly is the need for a Center. Wiegmann had a good run, but its over.


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