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RealSNR 04-27-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7595401)
A back that avg's 6.4 YPC should be able to handle 4th and 1. It's an O-line failure.

A back that averages 6.4 YPC should also be getting way more touches than he did this season...

patteeu 04-27-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7595401)
A back that avg's 6.4 YPC should be able to handle 4th and 1. It's an O-line failure.

Maybe so, but JC can't carry the ball every time the Chiefs call a running play and personally, I'd rather use his carries in situations where he's more likely to see some open field and break off a long one rather than in situations where he needs to focus primarily on getting one yard to move the chains.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7595397)
I agree. You may not HAVE to have a power back, but it sure would be nice. Of course, the OL is a factor in that short yardage game too, but you've got to have a short yardage capability of some kind that hopefully doesn't involve throwing the ball.

The OL isn't nearly the factor people are making it out to be. Christ, they paved the way for JC to almost break the YPC record.

IMO, we fail in short yardage because we're ****ing predictable.

I'd like to see video on that play, because IIRC, the middle of the line held up fine - it was the POA blocking that failed, and the Ravens didn't fall for Cassel's half-assed fake to Castille.

ChiTown 04-27-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7595405)
And if that's your position, fine. But don't sit around and say this is some knee-jerk reaction by alarmists. This isn't; it's vindication of the concerns they had all along.

Congrats on maybe being right?

I'm not sitting around doing or saying anything at this point. I'm simply stating that I'd like to see how they, in fact, use him this year. I'm also stating that we have his ass already, so how should he be used?

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7595410)
Were there two? I only remember the one against Denver.

I'll see if I can find the Rams play.

No, there was just the one, at least that I recall.

I edited my post after I had thought about it a bit more.

ToxSocks 04-27-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7595429)
A back that averages 6.4 YPC should also be getting way more touches than he did this season...

I disagree.

I think Haley used him right last year. I don't wanna see him have 300+ carries. I did, but I don't feel that way anymore.

I think we need to find another back with Charles' skill set to sub in. If they feel that McCluster is that back, then so be it.

Though I'd rather they take a Daniel Thomas in the 2nd or a Taiwan Jones in the 3rd or later.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7595429)
A back that averages 6.4 YPC should also be getting way more touches than he did this season...

Not really. Wasn't he coming off of surgery?

patteeu 04-27-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7595444)
I disagree.

I think Haley used him right last year. I don't wanna see him have 300+ carries. I did, but I don't feel that way anymore.

I think we need to find another back with Charles' skill set to sub in. If they feel that McCluster is that back, then so be it.

Though I'd rather they take a Daniel Thomas in the 2nd or a Taiwan Jones in the 3rd or later.

I agree with this. I like the idea of using JC about like they did last year and trying get some extra JC-like work out of Dexter.

DJ's left nut 04-27-2011 11:00 AM

I still really hope we take a long look at Clay out of Wisconsin. I know he had an off season, but Wisconsin was throwing the hell out of the ball and Clay went for 1,500 as a sophomore before slumping this season.

He's not a complete back, but he's a nice change of pace alternative to Charles in that he's a power runner with the ability to hit the hole hard. That's a guy I'd have loved to have on the roster for that 4th down play if for no other reason than the possibility that the Ravens might have actually bitten on the inside run if he was the possible target.

Clay could probably be had in the 6th round; I'm certain he'd be there in the 5th.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7595444)
I disagree.

I think Haley used him right last year. I don't wanna see him have 300+ carries. I did, but I don't feel that way anymore.

I think we need to find another back with Charles' skill set to sub in. If they feel that McCluster is that back, then so be it.

Though I'd rather they take a Daniel Thomas in the 2nd or a Taiwan Jones in the 3rd or later.

Check the post you quoted.

He said "touches."

No one wants JC to get 300 carries. But IMO, he should be getting many more touches as a receiver. 230 carries and 65-70 receptions would be a good load, IMO.

40 receptions isn't enough.

ChiTown 04-27-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7595467)
Check the post you quoted.

40 receptions isn't enough.

Absolutely agree, especially when you consider the crap that we had at WR last year

The Bad Guy 04-27-2011 11:11 AM

Yes, very questionable pick now. But standing on my head screaming isn't going to change it.

He's a playmaker, and I hope they find ways to use him effectively.

I also don't get why people are now nit-picking the MNF play. He made a cut, did his job and scored on a huge play to start the year. I don't care the conditions, variables or anything else. He made the play.

I'm hoping he can make more.

DBOSHO 04-27-2011 11:12 AM

HE WAS A ****ING ROOKIE

JESUS CHRIST, LET IT GO.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7595493)
Yes, very questionable pick now. But standing on my head screaming isn't going to change it.

He's a playmaker, and I hope they find ways to use him effectively.

I also don't get why people are now nit-picking the MNF play. He made a cut, did his job and scored on a huge play to start the year. I don't care the conditions, variables or anything else. He made the play.

I'm hoping he can make more.

Not nit-picking, just laying out the facts.

People are trying to claim he's this elusive guy who makes guys lose their jocks, and that hasn't been the case. At least not yet.

I hope he makes more plays as well, otherwise we've wasted yet another high R2 pick.

The Bad Guy 04-27-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7595505)
Not nit-picking, just laying out the facts.

People are trying to claim he's this elusive guy who makes guys lose their jocks, and that hasn't been the case. At least not yet.

I hope he makes more plays as well, otherwise we've wasted yet another high R2 pick.

It's nit-picking. The guy made a play, regardless of circumstance, he made a huge play. Credit is where credit's due.

He didn't make enough of them, but I'm not closing the book on his ability to help this team entering year 2.


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