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Deberg_1990 12-02-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8161994)
I like the guy, I think he's mentally strong, he could have transferred out with all the crap that happened while he was there yet he chose to stay. People look at this year where SC really rebounded and say it's talent around him, but it's very very young talent. Outside of Kalil and the RB tandem that is ok at best every impact player on that offense is a freshman or sophomore.

Barkley is really the glue that kept that team together and moving forward in a pretty difficult time for that university. I alone think that is a reason he'd be a good fit here, I like the talent level but I l like his makeup more. Any guy who as a true sophomore is the glue that keeps his team together says a lot to me.

No matter how he comes off in an interview, Barkley is a very hard worker and puts in the time to be good. This is guy that lost weight in his time with SC to become more mobile in the pocket.

Personally I think Barkley would be a great fit here, all his teammates love him, he's tough played through injuries, he can make all the throws and he's been the unquestioned leader on that team for nearly the entire time he's been there.

So basically hes Mark Sanchez 2.0

Titty Meat 12-02-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8162168)
So basically hes Mark Sanchez 2.0

Goodness the idiocy on this board has to be at an all time high.

Chiefnj2 12-02-2011 06:06 PM

With all of the training and coaching he's received in his life, I wonder how much more of a ceiling Barkley has. I don't know if there is much room for improvement.

Here is a detailed scouting report on him (cbssportsline):

Accuracy: Is generally a very accurate passer who places the ball in position for his receiver to generate yardage after the catch. Adept at the back-shoulder fade and in zipping slants between defenders. Has a tendency to throw slightly behind receivers running crossing routes from his right to his left. Is consistently more accurate to receivers running left to right. Good ball placement on touch passes down the seam. Struggles consistently hitting receivers in stride on the deep ball. Typically overthrows the route, making his receiver the only one capable of catching up to the ball. Doesn't own a howitzer, however, and some of his deep passes can hang too long as a result.

Arm Strength: Has the ability to make every throw, but has only slightly above average arm strength, overall. Zips short and intermediate routes, but relies more on timing and accuracy, rather than arm strength for the deep out. Only an average deep ball passer.

Setup/Release: Among his better attributes. Takes virtually all of his snaps from under center and gains depth efficiently while keeping his eyes downfield. Sets his feet and steps into his throws when he given room. Has a compact, over the top throwing motion with good follow-through. Has shown the ability to drop his release point to evade oncoming pass rushers.

Reading Defenses: Another strength. An intelligent passer who has the freedom and understanding of the offense to call audibles at the line. Good poise in the pocket. Trusts his protection and keep a running clock in his head, looking to secondary targets before vacating the pocket. Rarely throws into the teeth of the defense and when he does so, he shows good accuracy to adjust his throw so that only his receiver should have a play on the ball.

On The Move: Lacks the foot speed and agility to ever be a true threat as a scrambler, but is an alert ball-carrier who will take yardage given to him. Often used on rollouts in this offense, especially moving to his right. Impressive accuracy on the move, even when not allowed to set his feet. Has to learn to run lower and gain strength in his lower body to improve on the quarterback sneak.

Intangibles: The only freshman in team history to start at quarterback in the season-opener and the first for any team ranked in the AP's top five to do so since No. 3 Michigan's Rick Leach did so in 1975. The first true sophomore to ever be named a captain at USC. Legitimate concerns about his size and durability. Has missed at least one game in each of his first two seasons due to injury, including an ankle sprain in 2010 (missed second half of Oregon State, Notre Dame) and a bruised right (throwing) shoulder in 2009 (missed Washington). Also underwent surgery on his right wrist prior to 2010 spring practice.

--Rob Rang

Hammock Parties 12-02-2011 06:10 PM

Reads like a less mobile Cassel.

Titty Meat 12-02-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8162354)
Reads like a less mobile Cassel.

Really? Cassel is accurate and can read defenses?

Hammock Parties 12-02-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8162367)
Really? Cassel is accurate and can read defenses?

Struggles consistently hitting receivers in stride on the deep ball. Typically overthrows the route, making his receiver the only one capable of catching up to the ball. Doesn't own a howitzer, however, and some of his deep passes can hang too long as a result.

whoman69 12-02-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8162367)
Really? Cassel is accurate and can read defenses?

Cassel is accurate out to 4 yards but don't expect him to put the receiver in a position to get YAC. Cassel is a dyslexic QB. Tyler Palko can read defenses better.

Titty Meat 12-02-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8162375)
Struggles consistently hitting receivers in stride on the deep ball. Typically overthrows the route, making his receiver the only one capable of catching up to the ball. Doesn't own a howitzer, however, and some of his deep passes can hang too long as a result.

Arm Strength: Has the ability to make every throw

Hammock Parties 12-02-2011 06:26 PM

And yet his long passes "float."

RGIII > Barkley

mdchiefsfan 12-02-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8162006)
Mayock called Barkley a more polished Andy Dalton...who here would take Andy Dalton right now?

I also want everyone to understand something, outside of Kalil he plays behind a shit oline. The guards are average and young (Hudson/Asomoah), the center is crap (Weigmann) and the RT is an overmatched freshman (Richardson).

he would fit right in here then.

BossChief 12-02-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8162384)
And yet his long passes "float."

RGIII > Barkley

Tell me something about physics.

If a player has just enough arm strength to "float" his deep passes in 70 degree temperature, what happens when he throws that same pass a 10 below?

Titty Meat 12-02-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8162384)
And yet his long passes "float."

RGIII > Barkley

It's doubtful you've watched either play.

BossChief 12-02-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8162132)
Stanzi sucks give it up dude.

In his first year starting, he brought his team back from a 20 point deficit by throwing 4 touchdowns in the fourth quarter alone.

Quarterbacks that suck cant do that.

You guys point to Barkleys statistical improvement as proof of his coachability and leadership, but Stanzi had about the same arc of improvement over his three years starting.

You know when Ill admit he sucks?

When he shows that he does on the field.

Till then, I will believe that he is a good quarterback.

the Talking Can 12-02-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8162459)
Tell me something about physics.

If a player has just enough arm strength to "float" his deep passes in 70 degree temperature, what happens when he throws that same pass a 10 below?

LMAO


you are a ****ing gold mine...

tredadda 12-02-2011 07:57 PM

What blows my mind is those who find faults in Barkley and RGIII while apparently ignoring the flaws on our "future HOF" QBs we have on this roster. I will take the upside of a Barkley or RGIII over the upside of a Cassel or Orton any day of the week.


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