Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 8180855)

Did a Cardinals player Sandusky you in your formative years? Your irrational hatred of the Cardinals is astounding.

Originally Posted by Jim Jones (Post 8180864)

I don't get the sour grapes here. This isn't a LeBron situation - the guy brought you two World Series championships. He's done what he was supposed to do and he deserves to be able to chase the money.

All this sour grapes over the contract is ridiculous. If he brings the Angels a championship or two it's all worth it. And if he's approaching the HR record in a few years, the TV ratings/attendance/merchandise sales, etc. will be so far through the roof that it will make $250 mil look like a bargain.

Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 8180855)

Did a Cardinals player Sandusky you in your formative years? Your irrational hatred of the Cardinals is astounding.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8180876)

He's a butthurt lowlife dumb**** loser. A fan of a big market team that hasn't won dick since the 80s. Envious of anything successful. I'll bet the only thing he hates worse than St. Louis is the guy who gets to drive the garbage truck while he gets stuck loading the trash cans.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8180885)

90% of cardinal fans probably dont even live in shit louis and other than maybe busch stadium wouldn't even think about going there, so in a way they are the midwestern version of a bandwagon pussy fan.

not to mention, ironically, they think for some reason that they are the small town underdogs that always overcome the odds to win even though their payrolls are usually in the top 5 to 10 every year consistently. and they bitch and whine about everything. case in point the player who delivered 2 WS titles and 10 years of great baseball being attacked and criticized they way lebron was

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8180668)

The only bad thing I can see happening for the angels is if they find out pujols had been roiding all these years, like Manny.

Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 8180186)

This will make the Angels scary for a few years, but wow, they better hope he can sustain some level of productivity. They already have Vernon Wells making 26 mil, not sure when that contract ends, but that's 40 percent of their team salary in two guys... And I think Torri Hunter is around 20 mil as well...

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8180897)

Angels fan here....

First, Torii is off the books next year, Vernon sucks but will be gone in 2? The best we can hope for is he does better than last year, and how could you suck more?

But this is beyond contracts and yearly payroll. This is about OWNING the LA market. The Angels are predicting about $100 mil more a year just in TV revenues. The Marketing campaign is going to HUGE in media market #2. Fernando Mania revisited. Angels had to do this to cement themselves in Big Boy Baseball.

Im glad they did obviously. o:-)

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8180890)

this post is a perfect example of a bitch cardinal fan. lives somewhere else and thinks the cardinals are a "small market" team

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8180782)

Unless you peg his baseline at 37, which is what he hit last year.

Based on the history of baseball as well as Pujols performance over the last 4 years, there's an excellent chance that he peaked 3 seasons ago and the 'average' of 44.5 is long gone.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...r-hitters-age/

Worse, most guys will tell you that players will decline about 5% in overall production from years 31-34. Starting at about age 35, players start a precipitous decline; generally about 15-20% less than their previous year's performance.

For the last 3 years, Albert's followed a pretty standard curve. If he continues to follow it over the next 10, he won't get that record. He'd hit 35,33,32,27,22,20,17,14,11,10 for a total of 221. The decline models account for injuries, so I don't believe Albert will ever hit 10 HRs over a 600 AB season, but by the time the man is 39 years old, he's not going to be coming back from injuries like he used to. He's not going to have those 600 AB seasons anymore.

Hell, even assuming a 'young' decline curve of 5% annually over every year of that 10 year contract (even though he's declined by 10% annually over the last 3), he'll hit 35,33,32,30,29,27,26,25,23 and 22; or 282 total. He'd still come up short.

I think he'll get it, personally. I think he'll have a couple of years in there where his pride takes over and he explodes (maybe even next season). So I'm not sure the standard curve is fair to apply to him at all. Aaron had the best season of his career at 37; Musial had one of his best at 36. Proud men are wired differently.

That said, his health issues are well known. He has heavy legs that are constantly nagging at him. His heel is an issue on and off every year. Nobody really knows what kind of shape his elbow is in. While I think he's a very different breed of cat, there are also signs that suggest he could be slowing down just as many players before him have.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8180905)

Tell me, genious, what's the population of the Los Angeles metropolitan area compared to the population of the St. Louis metropolitan area? Even if you cut it in half and don't count the illegals, I think we're talking a fairly wide gap there.

And it seems like I live a lot closer to St. Louis than you do to Kansas City, you window-licking reerun. Got anything else?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8180820)

"Kings and their Castles"?

Burn that bitch...Mac's a disgrace and Albert's a ghost. Get yourself some powder blues and get ready for Spring.

No LaRussa, no Albert; it's a whole new era. Nothing says it has to be a disaster so lets get ready for it.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8180911)

your making my point for me. even though the "size" of your city is smaller the amount the cardinals spend on payroll is even higher which makes your argument even stupider. goddamn man how ****ing dumb are you?