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Hammock Parties 12-21-2011 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8225110)
There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-21-2011 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8225110)
There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

I don't see us keeping both Orton and Cassel next year. One will be gone.

Denny 12-21-2011 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8225110)
There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

Cassel is due to make $5.25M in 2012.

Are the Chiefs REALLY going to pay that kind of money for a backup? :hmmm:

FringeNC 12-21-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8225118)
You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Will Cassel even be in the league next year? He's "earned" SO much money from Clark Hunt over the last 3 years, will he bother playing for backup money, because he's certainly done being a starter in this league...

milkman 12-21-2011 08:52 AM

This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-21-2011 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8225118)
You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Good point about the cash, but Cassel needs to realize that being a backup is his place in this league.

FringeNC 12-21-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8225137)
This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

If Orton plays well the next two games, and we let him walk, and go into next year with Cassel, I'd have to imagine there'd be a significant hit to season ticket sales. Left to his own devices, Pioli probably would like to continue with Cassel. Not sure Clark Hunt would allow it to happen.

johnny961 12-21-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8223668)
Could be a killer for him as well if Pioli doesn't like that kind of talk.

Yep. Kinda what I was thinking.

Denny 12-21-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8225137)
This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

That talk is all VERY hypothetical.

IF Orton plays as well over the next 2 games.

IF Crennel is the next HC.

Otherwise, don't get too worked up about it.

However...

Kyle is determined to remain a starting QB. In Denver, Orton made it clear that he had no intentions of re-signing to "mentor" or back-up Tebow. He also made it clear that he would not sign an extension/new contract with any team the Broncos might trade him to unless he was clearly to be the starter. He didn't want to be a band-aid QB while a team prepped a draft-pick to replace him.

So unless Cassel is traded or forced to seriously re-structure his contract, I think he looks to remain the starter in KC. Orton won't sign any contract with the Chiefs while that is the case.

Right now, he's simply auditioning for his next team...

chiefscafan 12-21-2011 11:34 AM

Well then great do we go into next year

1. Cassel
2. Stanzi
3. Palko

Because if thats the case season tickets will be cancelled for sure. I'm also not sure if cassel wouldn't be booed when he took the field.

Sorry I've seen enoughof cassel now to form the opinion he panics, doesn't go through his progressions, and has no pocket awareness. If this were the case how many games does he get to screw up before stanzi gets a chance.


Sorry I dump cassel and sign orton. Keep Stanzi draft a developmental QB with a lot of potential or trade up for RG 3 or Barkley.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-21-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8225653)
Well then great do we go into next year

1. Cassel
2. Stanzi
3. Palko

Because if thats the case season tickets will be cancelled for sure. I'm also not sure if cassel wouldn't be booed when he took the field.

Sorry I've seen enoughof cassel now to form the opinion he panics, doesn't go through his progressions, and has no pocket awareness. If this were the case how many games does he get to screw up before stanzi gets a chance.


Sorry I dump cassel and sign orton. Keep Stanzi draft a developmental QB with a lot of potential or trade up for RG 3 or Barkley.

No.

Palko is in his final year of his contract.

chiefscafan 12-21-2011 11:50 AM

Thank god for that I'm starting to think if orton wins out

Are depth chart looks like this

1. Orton
2. Cassel
3. Stanzi

I hope I'm wrong bout cassel

HC/DC Romeo
OC mcdaniels

Mcdaniels worked with both cassel and orton before

Orton knows he can beat out cassel Stanzi competes with cassel for back up.

Though as I said i'd dump cassel not sure pioli will though. I'd draft a QB and have orton as the starter stanzi as backup and let drafted QB learn and be groomed.

jd1020 12-21-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 8225706)
Thank god for that I'm starting to think if orton wins out

Are depth chart looks like this

1. Orton
2. Cassel
3. Stanzi

I hope I'm wrong bout cassel

HC/DC Romeo
OC mcdaniels

Mcdaniels worked with both cassel and orton before

Orton knows he can beat out cassel Stanzi competes with cassel for back up.

Though as I said i'd dump cassel not sure pioli will though. I'd draft a QB and have orton as the starter stanzi as backup and let drafted QB learn and be groomed.

The Chiefs wont pay Cassel 5/7/9mil a year to be backup. He's going to be cut or he's going to be the Chiefs 2012 opening day starter.

Orton is not going to sign a contract to be a backup. If he plays the rest of the year like he did against the Packers, teams will be knocking on his door to be starter. Teams like the Vikings/Jags who have their QBotF but clearly arent ready to start yet or teams like Cleveland/Seattle who need a starting QB and may miss out on the top 3 QB's in the draft.

2012 is going to be:

1) Cassel/Orton
2) Stanzi/???
3) ???/Stanzi

Dexter Manley 12-21-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8225137)
This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.


You assumed he actually watched...

chiefscafan 12-21-2011 02:11 PM

I can't back cassel and his check downs and passes in the dirt

I can't see how they can bring him back

If orton wins out


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