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BIG_DADDY 08-17-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8826488)
We don't know if they had any non-lethal means available, except I suppose their night sticks. They probably didn't want their dog to be injured.

Anyway, he'd be alive right now if he'd just followed the lawful order to drop his weapon.

HE was a reerun dude.

LMAO at the dog comment. I'll bet that is totally true. They hold them way above the value of human life.

vailpass 08-17-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8826502)
HE was a reerun dude.

LMAO at the dog comment. I'll bet that is totally true. They hold them way above the value of human life.

Are they authorized to send the K9 unit at an armed man, knowing the dog is going to get shot or stabbed? I honestly don't know.

crazycoffey 08-17-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8826510)
Are they authorized to send the K9 unit at an armed man, knowing the dog is going to get shot or stabbed? I honestly don't know.

It should be, dogs have an amazing immunization to knives. This whole mess could have been avoided if the crazy man's mom would have loved on him more....

vailpass 08-17-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8826516)
It should be, dogs have an amazing immunization to knives. This whole mess could have been avoided if the crazy man's mom would have loved on him more....

Really?

Brock 08-17-2012 05:00 PM

I wouldn't have sent the dog either. 2 or 3 cops with sticks would have made short work of this guy and sent him to the nuthouse more or less unharmed. This was just pure laziness combined with stupidity.

vailpass 08-17-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8826521)
I wouldn't have sent the dog either. 2 or 3 cops with sticks would have made short work of this guy and sent him to the nuthouse more or less unharmed. This was just pure laziness combined with stupidity.

I don't blame the officers for not engaging an knife wielding mad man in hand to hand combat. Knife to a gunfight and all of that.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8826493)
five seconds of shooting seems still in a reasonable window of time, but I'm not there, don't know.

I would guess if one of the officers ran up on the man and did a MW3 T-bag move three or four times before shooting the dead man 15 more times in the face and nuts I would be more than inclined to agree with you.

BTW, do you even realize how many rounds can be fired in 5 seconds? I can empty my 15 round clip in 5 seconds. Now multiply that by 6.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:03 PM

I wouldn't have released the dog but tazers were definitely called for.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:04 PM

Can someone tell if the cops had him surrounded? If not then it seems pretty clear when he took his steps he did not step towards the officers. In fact it looks like he was stepping on the other direction. I am trying to see if he started to turn his back to them.

crazycoffey 08-17-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8826519)
Really?

It's true, in the breeding process the skin gets extra leathery and combine that with the long hair of the German Shepard, they are extremely knife resistant.

Brock 08-17-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8826523)
I don't blame the officers for not engaging an knife wielding mad man in hand to hand combat. Knife to a gunfight and all of that.

There is a reason these type of fatal events are rare. Usually the cops know how to handle it properly. these guys clearly didn't, and they don't deserve to wear a badge.

Kidd Lex 08-17-2012 05:07 PM

Sooooo many better ways to handle this....hell run him over with a car ffs...jesus h. christ. 30 shots. Im a big PD supporter, my pops provide a great quality of life being a cop for 40 years, but these guys ****ed up.

Also its tricky with the k9 unit, if these k9 officers get sooo close to their dogs that they won't use them in situations as intended, then wtf is the point.

vailpass 08-17-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8826543)
There is a reason these type of fatal events are rare. Usually the cops know how to handle it properly. these guys clearly didn't, and they don't deserve to wear a badge.

OK but you don't expect police officers to engage in hand to hand combat with a knife wielding mad man do you?

vailpass 08-17-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 8826536)
It's true, in the breeding process the skin gets extra leathery and combine that with the long hair of the German Shepard, they are extremely knife resistant.

I'll be damned, did not know that. Still seems shitty to send them to a certain stabbing but I guess they are service dogs.

petegz28 08-17-2012 05:08 PM

The more I watch this the more I can say every single officer who participated in this should be charged with murder or manslaughter or whatever. the guy was clearly down on the ground. He had a knife, not a gun so he couldn't potentially shoot them while down which would have justified the contiued shooting.


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