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Sorter 09-12-2012 01:29 PM

Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904611)
Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

And that's where I am setting you up to prove that pff isn't always right. Ask me nicely and I'll take you to school bitch. I am way ahead of you.

TEX 09-12-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8904546)
DJ wasn't drafted by Pioli
and this list isn't very impressive at all for 4 years.

going into year four, the team should be a contender with this many high draft choices.

BINGO! Add Cassel to the list and it looks even less impressive.

Frosty 09-12-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 8904483)
Tampa Bay hosted 7 defensive players including Everette Brown.

I know Brown was a bust but I have hard time believing he wouldn't be better than Studebaker based on raw talent alone.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904611)
Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

You know what's really funny about this? Even if it was right (which it isn't), here's my post that spurred this discussion...


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I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:01 PM

Jesus. This is what the 3-3-5 looks like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._green.svg.png

Notice how that looks nothing like what we put on the field? This is what we put on the field

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dIPo5JT23C...rt+--+dime.PNG

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:06 PM

Quote: I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.



You're literally right about this post minus the fact we don't run a 3-3-5. He likes to have another safety up in the box instead of having 3 down lineman, because of the coverage abilities Safeties typically bring.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:08 PM

Which is why we have 2 down lineman, 3 LBs (because Belcher can't cover) and 6 DBs. 3 safeties, and 3 corners.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:21 PM

You can see us in this package at the :12 and 1:58 mark in this video. No 3-3-5 though

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...efs-highlights

ThaVirus 09-12-2012 02:21 PM

**** it, sit him this week and let him rest for the Saints game.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904191)
How does that make sense to ANYONE?

So, because Reeves was covering Jones...that made it easier for Routt to cover White?

What?

I believe his point was that Routt is going to be thrown at less often with a weaker corner on the other side.

BoneKrusher 09-12-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8904738)
I believe his point was that Routt is going to be thrown at less often with a weaker corner on the other side.

yep
any smart QB should take advantage of that situation.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8904536)
Sorter's a chick? I thought the avatar was just some picture from something internety and pop culturey that I didn't know

If so, it must be that time of the month.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8904742)
yep
any smart QB should take advantage of that situation.

He certainly did, it almost looked easy for Ryan.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904726)
You can see us in this package at the :12 and 1:58 mark in this video. No 3-3-5 though

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...efs-highlights

Check the :43 second mark. Julio gets the pick play TD on a 3-3-5 defense. The Chiefs base nickel pack is a 3-3-5 defense. That's where pff goes wrong. Occassionally KC uses a 4 down linemen nickel formation but not very often.

There's the 3-3-5 nickel which is where you bring in an extra corner. Then, there's the 3-3-5 star where you bring in a third safety. Pff isn't including the 3-3-5 nickel in their 3-3-5 stats on your link.

In the star formation, the "star" player is a LB/S tweener who plays up torwards the line. This role is meant for Berry but McGraw mostly played it in Berry's rookie season. The plan was for Berry to play it last year and now he's playing it this year at times.


Consider that we played in the nickel 50% of the snaps last year. Some people even argue that the 3-3-5 nickel is our base formation.

If you go back and look at the Green bay game from last year, we lined up in the nickel 86% of the snaps in that game. You will see the 3-3-5 quite a bit.

Last, whoever said Dorsey doesn't line up in the nickel is dead wrong. The only DE that comes out is Jackson..... In the past anyway.


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