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Rausch 10-04-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977777)
there is like 5 good players on the whole team

every other player is based on hype, potential, being a training camp warrior, buying into the pioli propaganda that the player is automatically this great player without even generating any legit NFL production in a real ****ing game.
Name the 5...

FAX 10-04-2012 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8977745)
Was it not? Other than a few players (who are still here)... this team was shit. We had one of the worst rosters in the league in 2008.
Hmmm ... not necessarily. What we had were some bad players and some good players and some excellent players ... all of whom were soft and out-of-shape.

FAX

2bikemike 10-04-2012 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8976804)
http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6063673


All you can do is laugh at this point. "The chiefs don't make the moves necessary to improve the team, chiefs wont spend the $ to get great players"
Didn't read through any responses and it might have already been said, but if it has I will repeat it.

This is why I think shit canning Pioli or RAC wouldn't solve anything. There is one common denominator of this team that hasn't really changed in all the years of coaching changes and management changes. And that is the Hunt family.

When you leave the kind of dough on the table that the Chiefs have over the past years its pretty clear they aren't interested in becoming championship caliber.

Of course that doesn't explain away the horrible choices management has made in the money they have spent.

DeezNutz 10-04-2012 08:13 PM
All of the foundational pieces on the team were in place before Pioli took the job. How many times does this fact need to be reiterated?

-King- 10-04-2012 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8977788)
Hmmm ... not necessarily. What we had were some bad players and some good players and some excellent players ... all of whom were soft and out-of-shape.

FAX
See that roster I posted. Which player on that roster would you like to have that's not here anymore?

That's just an embarrassing roster. There's at least 10 players on there that aren't even in the league anymore.

BigMeatballDave 10-04-2012 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977785)
i see some of you are still drinking the Pioli kool aid that there is talent on this team besides the 2008 draft class and a couple other guys

in due time when most of these guys dont pan out to be anything more than average, you will wake up
I see you're still a ****ing moron.

It has nothing to do with your stupid Pioli Kool-aid shit.

With a good QB, this is a very different team.

FAX 10-04-2012 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977777)
there is like 5 good players on the whole team

every other player is based on hype, potential, being a training camp warrior, buying into the pioli propaganda that the player is automatically this great player without even generating any legit NFL production in a real ****ing game.
Hmmm ... I think you may be getting a little carried away there, Mr. mcaj22.

In many respects, this is a very different team than the one Pioli inherited. We have some damn fine players that any franchise in the league would move into their starting line-up.

What we have is a very poorly coached team at this point.

FAX

FAX 10-04-2012 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8977796)
See that roster I posted. Which player on that roster would you like to have that's not here anymore?

That's just an embarrassing roster. There's at least 10 players on there that aren't even in the league anymore.
It appears that you're confusing my posts with somebody else's.

FAX

DeezNutz 10-04-2012 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8977801)
What we have is a very poorly coached team at this point.

FAX
We have a shallow roster, led by an individual, Cassel, who inspires no respect from his teammates and thus cannot lead.

Additionally, the HC was put in a position to fail by being allowed to assume DC responsibilities, too.

In short, Pioli couldn't be a worse GM.

BigMeatballDave 10-04-2012 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8977801)
Hmmm ... I think you may be getting a little carried away there, Mr. mcaj22.

In many respects, this is a very different team than the one Pioli inherited. We have some damn fine players that any franchise in the league would move into their starting line-up.

What we have is a very poorly coached team at this point.

FAX
I concur.

-King- 10-04-2012 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8977801)
What we have is a very poorly coached team at this point.

FAX
Yep. VERY poorly coached team. I wish we had gotten one of the Harbaugh brothers. We'd be contenders right now. Instead we got a meth head and a doofus.

mcaj22 10-04-2012 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8977801)
Hmmm ... I think you may be getting a little carried away there, Mr. mcaj22.

In many respects, this is a very different team than the one Pioli inherited. We have some damn fine players that any franchise in the league would move into their starting line-up.

What we have is a very poorly coached team at this point.

FAX
but like someone just said, all the foundational pieces were here before Pioli took the job. And those pieces are in the PRIME of their careers and all Pioli is doing is wasting that talent away.

-King- 10-04-2012 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8977785)
i see some of you are still drinking the Pioli kool aid that there is talent on this team besides the 2008 draft class and a couple other guys

in due time when most of these guys dont pan out to be anything more than average, you will wake up
Which of our starters wouldn't be starting for other teams?

mcaj22 10-04-2012 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8977799)
I see you're still a ****ing moron.

It has nothing to do with your stupid Pioli Kool-aid shit.

With a good QB, this is a very different team.
the roster is shallow and weak. Dave you can call me any mean name in the book you want but I shall agree to disagree with you and still love you at the end of the day sir.

mcaj22 10-04-2012 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8977819)
Which of our starters wouldn't be starting for other teams?
define "other teams"

playoff teams? not many of players would be upgrades to most playoff teams. maybe 7 or 8 guys at most pending the team

every team would take Bowe. Some would take Hali, Charles, DJ. Most would take Flowers. Some would take Berry. And some would take Albert.


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