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Sorter 10-09-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones (Post 8996838)
... because of the contract he couldn't admit to the mistake. As long as he thought there was a chance Cassel could work out, he was going to stick with it.

Eh. There are plenty who would have realized their mistake and ate the cap hit.

Honestly, it wasn't even as bad a hit as T-jack has been IIRC.

Sorter 10-09-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996840)
And? Luck is 5 games into his.


WTF does Luck have anything to do with this convo?

suds79 10-09-2012 06:30 PM

"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.

Hammock Parties 10-09-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996840)
And? Luck is 5 games into his.

Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.

A game mananger who:

Leads the NFL in completions over 40 yards.

Is 12th in passing yards.

Is third in yards per attempt.

Is 7th in TD percentage.



You're a tard.

jd1020 10-09-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8996843)
WTF does Luck have anything to do with this convo?

He's a rookie that's already putting his team onto his shoulders?

Sorter 10-09-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996847)
He's a rookie that's already putting his team onto his shoulders?

Kinda like Dalton did last year with a team as equally bad (worse IMO as Cincy still doesn't have anyone who rushes the passer as well as Freeney/Mathis and I'm a huge Carlos Dunlap enthusiast)

BigMeatballDave 10-09-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996840)

Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.

You are an idiot if you truly believe that.

Sorter 10-09-2012 06:34 PM

Additionally, Dalton played/plays in a much tougher division than Luck will ever play in during his lifetime, IMO.

whoman69 10-09-2012 06:34 PM

Pioli had plenty of options going into the season and let each one pass by. First off he said that there would be competition brought in and it was Brady Quinn, he of the career 3-9 record and 53% completions. He had the option to go after Manning and made a money offer before trying to sell him on the personnel here. He had the option to sign Flynn and never really considered that. Not sure it was a real option given that Flynn is probably a system QB. He had the option to keep Orton as competition and let that slide. He had options in the draft that he let pass by to get a project T/G tweener. I don't fault him for not going after RG3 as the price was much too high. Don't really fault him for not going after an unproved Tannehill.

The Bad Guy 10-09-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8996529)
I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.

They didn't swing for Cassel. Pioli bunted and then instead of evaluating for the franchise year, he decided to extend a guy who had little to no track record.

That's ****ing blind bullshit. That's not swinging.

jd1020 10-09-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8996849)
Kinda like Dalton did last year with a team as equally bad (worse IMO as Cincy still doesn't have anyone who rushes the passer as well as Freeney/Mathis and I'm a huge Carlos Dunlap enthusiast)

ROFL

Cincinnati was bad? They had one of the best D's in the league, idiot. Their D made those games against Pitt, Baltimore, and Texans close.

Sorter 10-09-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996857)
ROFL

Cincinnati was bad? They had one of the best D's in the league, idiot. Their D made those games against Pitt, Baltimore, and Texans close.

So it was their D that put up 17, 24, 19, and 16 points against 3 playoff teams that have elite Ds?

Additionally, the first part of your statement is way off base. I'm a Mike Zimmer supporter. You'd know that if you read any of the HC threads for next year.

jd1020 10-09-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8996870)
So it was their D that put up 17, 24, 19, and 16 points against 3 playoff teams that have elite Ds?

Additionally, the first part of your statement is way off base. I'm a Mike Zimmer supporter. You'd know that if you read any of the HC threads for next year.

No, moron. It was their D that kept the other team from scoring 50 points. If you actually watched any Bengals games last year you would have seen how Dalton was doing everything possible to make it a blowout for the other team.

el borracho 10-09-2012 06:47 PM

Chiefs should have drafted Ryan Mallet.

Sorter 10-09-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8996882)
No, moron. It was their D that kept the other team from scoring 50 points. If you actually watched any Bengals games last year you would have seen how Dalton was doing everything possible to make it a blowout for the other team.

http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/07/jlaw-okay.gif

You're right.

Cincy's D carried that team like the Ravens did with Dilfer, that is how bad a rookie who wet to the playoffs in a division featuring the Ravens and Steelers was.


JFC. You realize Matt Cassel would be lucky to win a single division game playing for the Bengals.

You know that right?


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