My bad. I was under the impression the guy that takes ball from between the other guys legs was supposed to find the other guys running around even if it isn't the first option and get them the ball.

I also mentioned Daboll. You ignored that part.

Or it means that our coaching staff is a bunch of morons.

Yup...

Sorry Laz, but they have worn me out.

Are you really convinced they will draft a QB #1 overall, or even draft one in the first round?

We all know they should, but the evidence says they won't.

I would bet higher on them trading the pick for a Flacco type and getting another pick to use on an LSU D-lineman, a CB, WR, or LT to replace a FA Albert.

Pioli is far from irrelevant.

He hires the coaches. Therefore the chances of getting QUALITY coaching is slim to none if he is still in charge.

Unless you consider Josh McDaniel or Eric Mangini to be "quality".

What evidence do you have that they WON'T draft a QB #1 overall?

They've never had the #1 pick, so there's no "evidence" that they'll do anything.

However, there's STRONG evidence that the fanbase is bordering on outright revolt and there's INDISPUTABLE evidence that the stadium is half-full.

They really don't have a choice.

I'd place money on this.

Woodchuck must be banned LOL

Pioli is 0-2 in that department. 0-4 on the QBs that have played for him am counting the backups. I doupt Pioli is going to pick the QB with our first pick he will likely trade down as it will be to tempting to take offers. So he is a major factor going forward with this team. He needs gone out of the picture.

That is just common knowledge. :)

I know they have never had the number 1 pick, in fact the #3 overall pick that the current GM used on Tyson ****ing Jackson is the highest pick they have had since the #2 overall picks of Mike Bell, Neil Smith and Art Still.

That is some pretty good evidence, 4 top three picks, all DL.

Nobody can deny, their procedure for putting butts in the seats in previous years was to acquire an experienced mediocre QB that can get some wins.

Do Clark Hunt and his staff think this fan base has the patience to allow a rookie QB to succeed? I don't.

If they did, we would have seen Stanzi already.

All of those players were taken before the advent of modern football. There was no free agency, no rookie salary slotting, none of that.

And nobody can deny that said approach is no longer putting butts in the seats. That stopped around 1999.

The reason we haven't seen Stanzi is because they think Cassel and/or Quinn is BETTER.

Do you HONESTLY think the reason they haven't played Stanzi is because they think it will cost them ticket sales?

If so, you're damaged past to point of no return. Take a couple of years off from this team, dude.

Yep.

Neil Smith left as a free agent, but yeah, things have changed in that regard, no doubt. But it is still the Hunt owned Chiefs doing things the same old way.


But yet, they keep doing the other things the same old way. DaBoll is Hackett/Rae 2.0 and Cassel/Quinn are Grbac/Gannon/Craig/DeBerg .20 recycled QBs.

They have shown me zero reason to believe they have changed anything.


Exactly, and gives the 1-9 team a better chance to get a ****ing win now and take some heat off.
Exactly, win now with a crap recycled QB instead of letting a Chiefs drafted QB play when things are clearly lost for the season. They saw the fan reaction to Brodie Croyle when he didn't show success right away.
Wins, which result in ticket sales.
Oh I am Parker, backing way the hell off. Thanks. As I said the other day, I am becoming more like a gawker in the opposing lane looking at a bad wreck, hoping nobody got hurt.

Or Stanzi may just not be a good NFL QB. If you can't beat out Quinn or Cassel...I'm not saying I wouldn't want to give him a chance, but he should have seen the field with a 1-10 team. If for nothing else, just seeing if something...ANYTHING works.

You're absolutely right, the Chiefs never draft QB's in the 1st. But I think with the recent success of some rookie QB's, combined with the lack of ANY shred of hope at the QB position since Green went down, the fanbase (even the complete idiots) will give a 1st rd draft pick the time they need to acclimate to the NFL. They have tried drafting DL in the 1st and have been met with nothing but failure.

I'm hopeful that the ungodly amount of sucktitude this team has fielded this season, will give reason to fire Pioli/Crennel/Daboll, hire a solid GM/HC/OC that breaks the cycle, drafts the 1st RD QB that we desperately need, and overhaul the team and immediately puts them back on track to where they should be.

If they don't, and we start next season with Pioli, a minion HC, and a re-tread QB, I'll be convinced, once and for all, that Clark doesn't have any desire to field a quality team.