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Marcellus 12-31-2012 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9257992)
All Clark is doing at this point is showing he's a wishy-washy, gutless owner.

Forget about who is willing to work for Pioli, who is willing to work for Clark?
I am going to say that potential GM and coaching candidates look at things different than fans.

Not just blowing shit up 10 seconds after the season every year would be a desirable situation.

OMG Clark isn't just flipping out and cleaning out Pioli's office already today so no GM wants to come here?

That is silly.

cabletech94 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9258004)
It is entirely possible that clark is looking for a way to keep pioli but add another piece to the personnel puzzle. If the reports are true and Pioli has made clark a ton of money over the last few years, he might be looking for a way to preserve that functionality while simultaneously taking away some of pioli's power.

not ideal, for sure.

OR he could be waiting to see what happens with the head coaching position. IE bill cowher wants to come to KC but wants nothing to do with Pioli. Perhaps then Pioli becomes the business/negotiation point man while Cowher has final say over all drafting/personnel/coaching hires and changes.

Face it, Chiefs fans... we are Chiefs fans. Nothing is ever easy for us.


That.

HolyHat 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
I think Clark gave Pioli that extension, and Clark is trying to convince himself to give Scott that 19 million and let him go.

okcchief 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
I have a feeling even if Pioli stays it will be on the business side. They either give the head coach power over the roster or bring someone in with him. Either way this is better news than he's being retained.

PhillyChiefFan 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9257888)
Yeah, Pioli's toast. To say he's safe is a misnomer.

Here's how I see it. Clark is changing his philosophy. Whereas before he hired the GM first and then the coach, now Clark's going after the big HC who will then decide about the front office.

This means that the Bill Cowher's, Andy Reid's, Jon Gruden's, etc...are now in play.
Hope this is true. However, hiring the a big name HC may be MORE difficult if Pioli is here. Pioli doesn't exactly have the greatest reputation when it comes to his ability to work and play with others.

Wasn't it rumored that Pioli's ego was a big determining factor in Manning choosing not to come to KC?

htismaqe 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9258005)
i want a power hungry HC with full control just so the guy can PURGE/RID US OF THIS PATS TREE BULLSHIT CONNECTION

and I hate full control HCs. But if it takes a full control HC to free us from this awful high brow club that everyone else in the league hates, players and coaches alike, so be it
I will take Cowher even.

mcaj22 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
actually Pioli was awful as BB's sidekick, and I'm pretty sure the last 4 years proved him to be a huge fraud/fools gold

you are talking about the guy that drafted Brandon Meriweather, Larwrence Marony and other awful scrubs while he was there.

then he leaves and BB magically drafts two stud TEs, Mallet, Ridley and tons of young defensive studs in Hightower, Jones, McCourty, Spikes, and trades for Talib. Things Pioli would never, ever, do

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2012 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9258003)
I know it's hard but you need to be patient. Having him gone on Thursday is better than having him retained today.
It has nothing to do with patience, I've been a Chiefs fan for 33 years. I'm plenty patient.

But there is literally NO reason to keep Pioli around to see who is willing to work with him.

Clark is basically showing the NFL how gutless he is by trying to find someone else to fire Pioli.

Just do it, then go about hiring the best staff possible.

suds79 12-31-2012 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 9258010)
At least Clark has made a statement that gives us hope.

Finish it!
Are you serious? If anything this statement should make you panic. We have a HUGE owner problem. He's not sure if Scott Pioli should be fired! Maybe Scott did sign an extension back earlier in the season? Who knows?

Now he's passing the buck on Scott's fate to the next HC??? This is not the type of management that will ever win a SB.

DeezNutz 12-31-2012 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9258002)
I firmly believe Cowher will be the first call.

It doesn't make any sense why he just wouldn't fire him, but I guess this is better than coming out and saying Pioli is staying today.
Yep.

saphojunkie 12-31-2012 10:08 AM
BTW who the **** posted that to Twitter? What kind of asshole leads with "we have to move the franchise..."

Whatever moron assistant transcribed clark's statement to twitter needs to be fired, even before Pioli.

SAUTO 12-31-2012 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9258000)
You go out and hire a Bill Cowher type and Pioli will get canned quickly. Also its an easy out on Hunt saying the new HC doesn't want you. Not in between time you bet they got the law team working on the buyout details.

its been rumored that clark has already talked to cowher.

the HC cant do it all and maybe he thinks pioli can go back to what he was doing in NE and succeed.


FTR i dont think it would work

Hammock Parties 12-31-2012 10:09 AM
Clark is treating Pioli the same way he treated Herm before Pioli fired Herm.

Food for thought.

DeezNutz 12-31-2012 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9258031)
its been rumored that clark has already talked to cowher.

the HC cant do it all and maybe he thinks pioli can go back to what he was doing in NE and succeed.


FTR i dont think it would work
I think that Pioli could be successful in that role (fetching coffee) again. But not now. He's created too toxic of an environment.

Ace Gunner 12-31-2012 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9257979)
I'd like to see Pioli shown the door today, too.

But the statement tells me that Pioli's just a lame duck GM at this point.

The fact that the GM is not running the new search for a HC is very telling. Clark's a systematic thinker. He's changing the philosophy and getting the HC he wants, and then the GM will come from that.

Evidently he's come to believe that it's more important to get the best HC who will then find personnel people.
how is it Pioli is a "lame duck" when he is still GM? How is any HC prospect going to sign with this franchise that is holding a "lame duck" GM?

Nope. Clark is puppeted by Pioli. Which means Pioli is totally in charge.


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