I have nothing against academics I should have elaborated more of what I was trying to say, I'm a college graduate myself and no I don't want dumb athletes that always get into trouble, however I don't feel that has anything to do with improving the football teams play on the field in the present. mizzou is in a very bad situation right now athletically and academics isn't going to change that, in fact Mizzous high academic standards have hurt the athletic program more than its helped it. Face it most of the best talent are dummies because they only know football. How many of their top recruits have had to go to JUCO because they can't hack it academically due to the high standards ala Sheldon Richardson? He was a moron who couldn't keep his yap shut but guess what? He was the best defensive player on the team.

I don't think Mizzou standards are really much of a roadblock for young recruits. The NCAA sets the admission standard for Div 1 football, not the school. The school can have a higher standard if it wants to, but I'm pretty sure Mizzou doesn't do that.

My dad is an MU alum and was a former football/track player. He told me that a big reason MU's football team hit the pits in the 80's was due to some new female University President that MU had hired at that time. Supposedly she made the academic standards extremely difficult therefore making it hard to recruit good talent because a lot of the best athletes aren't too bright and they couldn't make the grades to get in. Going off what my dad said and what I've seen myself with several of the good MU JUCO recruits the last ten years that would be the case. Heck I remember my college advisor telling me my senior year that Mizzou,Baylor, and Colorado were hands down the most difficult Big 12 schools to get accepted into academically. I could be wrong but that whats its always seemed like to me. I do know they require a 21 score on the ACT as well, they probably make exceptions for scholarship players though.

Or maybe because Woody Widenhofer and Bob Stull were pretty shitty coaches...

That didn't help either. You can also contribute the horrid facilities Mizzou had back then, it was God awful.

You can take it back farther than that.

Missouri's biggest mistake was in hiring Frank Broyles instead of Bob Devaney, who wanted the job.

Devaney went to Nebraska and was dominant as college football started to take off. We know the rest. With no Devaney at Nebraska, there's no Osborne there, either.

My dad hates Babs Uehling, too, though. Her direction of the academic side - and refusal to seek or release investment to the facilities at Mizzou - really crippled not just football but also basically all other sports at Mizzou.

Bingo, told you guys, my dad is an MU alum, I had to believe him. They could have had Devaney? They really focked up, just wow. It could have been vice versa, ugh.

Oh, and to top it off... I think Bill Snyder and Bob Stull were hired in the same year. Snider was a Iowa assistant from Missouri who SURELY would have taken that job over the worst job in college football had it been offered.

I don't think Snider was ever considered, but in hindsight...

I think I have the cherry, wasn't Bud Wilkinson an assistant to Don Faurot who would go on to make Oklahoma a powerhouse?

Yes. But I can top that...

Wilkinson and Jim Tatum both learned the split-T (wishbone) offense that made Oklahoma a powerhouse from - guess who ...

Don Faurot. Who taught it to them while coaching Army teams during WWII. At the time, the split-T was a powerhouse that no one else really knew anything about it, and without video, it was much harder to pick up opposing offenses.

All of these coaching follies can be explained by my signature. There is something inherent in the university that will always cause such futility.

If you're not shooting yourself in the foot, you must be aiming too high.

LMAO Did you make that up or did you hear it somewhere?

I made it up, I think. I was in a bit of an altered state of consciousness a day or two ago, and it popped into my head...first chance I've had to use it.

There are some who believe that the Academic crowd still pretty much controls the actions of the University to it's detriment.