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KC_Connection 10-16-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10092611)
Until he throws the inevitable back breaking INT

Hard to have too many back breaking INTs if you're blowing teams out due to the combination of a great offense and an elite defense.

Deberg_1990 10-16-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10092661)
I'm not a fan of Romo either. I wouldn't have signed him were he available. But that wasn't the question.

ok, well yes.....there have been a couple of games where Alex came through in the clutch. hit a key pass or TD in crunch time.

Romo has had a 13 win season and an 11 win season. So he is capable of heading a playoff team. Other than that, hes been pretty mediocre as far as win/losses.

KC_Connection 10-16-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10092624)
But in the end, as he's proven so many times, it doesn't matter how many yards and TD's, he inevitably costs Dallas the big win.

51 points.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-16-2013 09:00 PM

Jesus, KCCBarry is a full ****ing reerun.

KC_Connection 10-16-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10092647)
You're not going to win many games when you give up 51. He's sort of the one legged-man that lost the ass-kicking contest.

Here's an interesting question to ponder: what would the Chiefs record be with Tony Romo? Would he have cost them games to this point because of his predilection towards head-scratching picks? Or is the defense good enough that it wouldn't matter? Would the offense be scoring more? And have we won games because of key plays by Alex Smith that could only be made by Alex Smith? Has he been a difference maker in the 6-0 start beyond "he doesn't turn it over"?

Considering they'd actually have an offense that can move the ball and put points on the board rather than whatever it is they employ for an offense right now, it's pretty safe to assume they'd be 6-0 with a top 10 QB (whether it be Romo or anybody else in that range).

But maybe I'm just ignoring Alex Smith's incredible leadership qualities that allow him to exude confidence and provide the rest of the team with a winning mindset.

KC_Connection 10-16-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10092664)
Romo has has a 13 win season and an 11 win season. So he is capable of heading a playoff team. Other than that, hes been pretty mediocre as far as win/losses.

You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.

Deberg_1990 10-16-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10092692)
You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.

Yea, i agree. Team sport, no doubt. Romo carries them most of the time. But he does have a tendency to choke at the wrong times. He would have been better off in a stronger organization. Dallas has been thoroughly mediocre for 17 years because the GM refuses to fire himself. Not that i care. : )

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10092692)
You mean Dallas has been. Teams win football games, not players.

Bullshit.

Romo has been directly responsive for their losses.

You're talking out of your ass.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-16-2013 09:15 PM

Romo is the most talented choke-artist in the league.

No wonder Hootie loves him.

KcMizzou 10-16-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10092651)
Ive been very disappointed in the O-line. It feels like almost every pass play Smith is under pressure or rushed.

The game started with a sack. And he looked scared in the pocket after that.

I thought he settled down a little in the 2nd half. Much better. Maybe it was the O-line getting their shit together, but it was better.

And of course the D just got nuts.

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10092647)
You're not going to win many games when you give up 51. He's sort of the one legged-man that lost the ass-kicking contest.

Here's an interesting question to ponder: what would the Chiefs record be with Tony Romo? Would he have cost them games to this point because of his predilection towards head-scratching picks? Or is the defense good enough that it wouldn't matter? Would the offense be scoring more? And have we won games because of key plays by Alex Smith that could only be made by Alex Smith? Has he been a difference maker in the 6-0 start beyond "he doesn't turn it over"?

Romo has had Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Bill Callahan and Jason Garrett in his ear for the past decade. That's a pretty goddamned good list of coaches, all of whom have been a part of Super Bowl teams and offenses.

Romo is who he is: A QB that shines without pressure but breaks in mid-air when pressure is applied.

Everyone has seen it again and again and again and again.

KC_Connection 10-16-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10092707)
Bullshit.

Romo has been directly responsive for their losses.

You're talking out of your ass.

Laughable stuff from you as usual. Dallas is a flawed team and has been for as long as Romo has been there. That's an irrefutable fact. There's nothing he could have done to make them a SB contender, nor was he at fault for his team allowing 51 ****ing points a week and a half ago against the Denver Broncos.

Romo has some flaws himself (which is why he's not considered to be in the true upper echelon despite his elite stats/skills), but he's on a completely different level as a QB than a guy like Alex Smith.

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10092689)
Considering they'd actually have an offense that can move the ball and put points on the board rather than whatever it is they employ for an offense right now, it's pretty safe to assume they'd be 6-0 with a top 10 QB (whether it be Romo or anybody else in that range).

But maybe I'm just ignoring Alex Smith's incredible leadership qualities that allow him to exude confidence and provide the rest of the team with a winning mindset.

You're definitely ignoring the fact that Romo shits himself at every turn.

Did you happen to miss their 13-3 season in which they got there on the back of Wade Phillips defense, only to shit the bed in the playoffs?

mattschiefs 10-16-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10092651)
Ive been very disappointed in the O-line. It feels like almost every pass play Smith is under pressure or rushed.


It has seemed that way

I think the O line and their struggles is part of why Alex struggled against Oakland. He let it get in his head and he was rushing at times when he didn't need to rush so he was missing throws. That's not an excuse for Alex it's his fault he let that get in his head not the O lines.

Alex hasn't been as bad as some make it sound. The haters are jumping on his horrible game against Oakland but go look at the game logs. He has put up a lot of yards. What the haters have neglected to bring up is his running the ball. If you count that he has been over 300 yards of offense twice and over 250 yards twice more. He hasn't been great by any means and there are for sure things he has to get better at. But he hasn't been as bad as people are making it out to be.

KC_Connection 10-16-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10092723)
Romo has had Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Bill Callahan and Jason Garrett in his ear for the past decade. That's a pretty goddamned good list of coaches, all of whom have been a part of Super Bowl teams and offenses.

Romo is who he is: A QB that shines without pressure but breaks in mid-air when pressure is applied.

Everyone has seen it again and again and again and again.

If it weren't for one SB win, clowns like you probably would be saying the same thing about Peyton Manning.


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