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Jameis Winston (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289592)

Oh I think he'll be better than Cam Newton in the NFL.

I just also think he's a huge piece of shit scumbag that I don't want to be a Chief.

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84 (Post 11231811)

Oh I think he'll be better than Cam Newton in the NFL.

I just also think he's a huge piece of shit scumbag that I don't want to be a Chief.

Zip it...

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84 (Post 11231658)

I plan on addressing some of your other points in this post, but don't have time. Tho' I have read you NY Times link which is about other football players for a general charge of the claim football players are protected—as if it's not true elsewhere. It does nothing to address what I said about Jameis Winston per se.

Also, just because the national media says things, doesn't make it completely true. They can omit information that paints something in a false light. I have issues with the major media and have long before this. They can ruin reputations. Scandal sells. Plus the NYT's claims they write "all the news that's fit to print." Or some version of that. Says enough.

You did not provide links in the post of yours that I originally quoted. I believe that was Post #76. I have had to go back through to see who said what as I addressed two posters on this and can get them confused as I am not familiar with the screen names. I see the other one was rabblerouser after checking. So I need to go back, read your entire above post and put points in sequence. Just don't have time right now. Need to run errands for the holiday before it's too late here. I have copy and pasted the above into a word doc with some previous posts for now.

But again, I am only addressing the exaggerations and hyperbole. You have every right to not want Winston for your team and for the reasons you state. I just wanted to correct certain exaggerations.

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11231629)

One incident.

Oh the humanity! Please provide a link on this.

Oh multiple incidents now? Do you have inside information?

Such as?

False. He was suspended for the crab legs and did community service for time.

He was suspended for the student union incident which was BS. None of the students thought that mattered, because well others do it too. He was simply copying a meme. It only got blown out of proportion because of social media. Maturity issue for someone who has media attention on him? Sure.

People who resort to broad sweeping generalities are engaging in hyperbole to suit their own personal antagonisms. Ever hear an angry man tell the truth? They usually don't. Their anger gets in the way. Sociopaths resort to over generalizations when combined with some false reports.

"Always"getting star treatment? That's why he was punished for the crab legs and suspended? That's why he was suspended for the student union incident?
The reported facts do NOT support your claims. You must be a UF fan. Thye had Hernandez who had his record concealed regarding a gun incident where someone was shot, because he was still a youth. Now he's in legal trouble for double murder.

Totally different matter than what's been said about Winston's guilt. True about many others and not true for many others as well.

More non facts and innuendo. FSU hired an independent judge for the hearing on Winston.

How longstanding has it been? Was he like this back at home in Alabama too? Please establish a factual timeline on this "longstanding" pattern.

I can see thinking he's immature and even irresponsible. But I've also learned from people who personally know him that he's known as a goofball. He jokes a lot. But he is well liked actually. Even the coach has said his enthusiasm drives the team and has had a good effect on it. So he possesses some leadership qualities at least.

Yet, some will. Afterall, 20% of those in the NFL have been ghetto thugs. But it gives them a chance to get out of that. I don't know if that is the background of Jameis as he grew up outside Birmingham Alabama. Doesn't seem like it.

In the meantime, Jameis said the rape charge hurt his reputation. His legal team is also considering further legal action.

All I asked for in this thread, is for a certain poster to back a claim of multiple thefts and upset businessmen over such an allegation. I've not heard that. I prefer facts—not innuendo. I have no issue with Jameis needing to mature and grow up, as he is a celebrity figure and needs to act differently.

JFC, why aren't you on universal ignore? you literally add nothing to any conversation on this site, just inane drivel. the sad thing is that you aren't even an effective troll because you believe the shit you post. shit, one of your daughter's profs could tell you that he's the metatron and 800 years old (complete with no birth certificate because the cosmic bajeebus doesn't do birth certificates) and you'd likely believe him as long as it fit your narrow narrative.

just a sad human being. when I read your posts it kinda makes me sad that we breathe the same oxygen and that you're the same species as I am.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11231727)

One guy responded to this to bust my balls? You dumb****s want him even though he got worse his second year and is coming out?

Speaks to his work ethic/professionalism. He knew he was coming out this year, he wouldn't be there except for the requirement that he play one more season. Didn't work hard and improve himself this season. He's bought in to his own hype.

Our next QB could be Lucifer himself, but I won't give a shit as long as we win.

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 11231882)

Wow! You really are running on empty today with no valid arguments. Happy New Year just don't have a heart attack over opinions you can't tolerate.

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11231961)

Our next QB could be Lucifer himself, but I won't give a shit as long as we win.

Not many people would. Trouble is, Winston won't win at the NFL level.

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11231983)

Not many people would. Trouble is, Winston won't win at the NFL level.

No one really knows.

Just look at the history of this board.

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11230891)

is this guy going to be the new sanchez/geno?

yep

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11231986)

No one really knows.

Just look at the history of this board.

I always get a kick out of predictions of a player or a team for that matter. No one really knows despite all the analysis. Brady wasn't even a high draft pic and scouts were hard on him. Look how that turned out.

The draft is not a science but a gamble.

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11231986)

No one really knows.

Just look at the history of this board.

No, no one really knows, but his behavior fits a pattern that does not equal success. You can't find anyone quarterbacking in the NFL who is that kind of person.

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11232015)

No, no one really knows, but his behavior fits a pattern that does not equal success. You can't find anyone quarterbacking in the NFL who is that kind of person.

Don't get me wrong, I agree. QB needs to have good judgement, and Winston is severely deficient in this department off the field.

Winston, if he succeeds, will be the QB that throws 3 picks in the first half, only to come back and win the game on the final drive in the 4th.

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 11232015)

No, no one really knows, but his behavior fits a pattern that does not equal success. You can't find anyone quarterbacking in the NFL who is that kind of person.

This..You can even go the other way ..For example Tebow... Anyone with a brain could see that was going to be a train wreck when the dumbass wouldn't switch positions.

Jameis makes Cam Newton look like a guy with lots more IQ points.