ChiefsPlanet
Page 10 of 13 « First 6789 10 111213
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Make Our Second Round Picks (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=299609)

BossChief 04-29-2016 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12204014)
The trade back last night puts us in perfect decision to do just that.

We wouldn't even have to give up one of our 10 projected picks next year to do so.
**** that.

Why would we trade out of pick 28 (when you get 5 years for a first rounder) to move to 37 and then trade back up to 32?

Doesn't make sense.

DaneMcCloud 04-29-2016 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12204045)
**** that.

Why would we trade out of pick 28 (when you get 5 years for a first rounder) to move to 37 and then trade back up to 32?

Doesn't make sense.
It makes sense to me, especially if their guy won't be there at #37.

They have plenty of ammo to make that move, if they want it.

But who knows? Maybe Dorsey's got several DT/DE's, CB's and guards ranked evenly.

ping2000 04-29-2016 02:30 PM
1. Injured guy with upside.
2. Track guy who never played football with upside.
3. Guy from small school with upside.
4. Fatty.

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

pugsnotdrugs19 04-29-2016 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12204045)
**** that.

Why would we trade out of pick 28 (when you get 5 years for a first rounder) to move to 37 and then trade back up to 32?

Doesn't make sense.
If you feel like Myles Jack is going to be okay or you start to get the sense that who you want at 37 may not be there, it makes plenty of sense.

jd1020 04-29-2016 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12204060)
If you feel like Myles Jack is going to be okay or you start to get the sense that who you want at 37 may not be there, it makes plenty of sense.
Makes more sense to hold out and then trade back when that player is gone.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-29-2016 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12204065)
Makes more sense to hold out and then trade back when that player is gone.
Would normally agree but that's what we did in the first round.

Now it's our turn to use our resources and get our guy.

O.city 04-29-2016 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12204053)
It makes sense to me, especially if their guy won't be there at #37.

They have plenty of ammo to make that move, if they want it.

But who knows? Maybe Dorsey's got several DT/DE's, CB's and guards ranked evenly.
If they're afraid who they want won't be there at 37, they should have taken him at 28.

I get the feeling there's a number of guys they like and know one of them will be at 37, hence the trade down

ct 04-29-2016 02:37 PM
37 - LB Myles Jack or CB Xavian Howard ( i expect somebody takes a chance on jack very soon!) else OG Cody Whitehair


59 - WR Sterling Shepard or CB/S TJ Green, OLB Emmanuel Ogbah

BigChiefFan 04-29-2016 02:38 PM
If he can pull off DE Kevin Dodd and CB Mackenzie Alexander, I'll be thrilled.

BossChief 04-29-2016 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12204053)
It makes sense to me, especially if their guy won't be there at #37.

They have plenty of ammo to make that move, if they want it.

But who knows? Maybe Dorsey's got several DT/DE's, CB's and guards ranked evenly.
The draft value chart that matches most trades the closest shows the difference between 32 and 37 is about 60 points and that's almost exactly what our original 4th is worth.

So, basically if we trade up....we passed on that 5th year option to move up in the 4th round and to move from the 7th to the 6th.

That's terrible value.

BossChief 04-29-2016 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12204060)
If you feel like Myles Jack is going to be okay or you start to get the sense that who you want at 37 may not be there, it makes plenty of sense.
Then they should have stayed at 28 and had their first pick for 5 years of very cheap deals.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-29-2016 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12204086)
Then they should have stayed at 28 and had their first pick for 5 years of very cheap deals.
The news about Jack not needing microfracture surgery didn't come until a couple hours ago, so if that's who they want, its not their fault.

And if you wanted a guy who you knew was going to be there at 37, that extra 4th which is almost a late 3rd may be worth more than we realize in this type of draft.

Mr. Laz 04-29-2016 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12203957)
You also saw Eric Berry as an outside linebacker....so.....

But anyway, joking aside, I don't think you're looking at this correctly. Had Artie Burns or WJIII actually fallen to us, or any of the WR's they're interested in, Dorsey likely would've made the pick. But most of the talent we figured the Chiefs would be interested in were swept off the board right before our pick.

The Chiefs were left with the next tier of talent. We could make a reach, or trade back, get some picks, and still be picking from that same pool of talent.

Dorsey made the right choice.
Then Dorsey needed to move up and get one instead of sitting there and hoping one to fall. Corner is the one position we really need to fill.

It's just my opinion, if you disagree then fine. Doesn't mean i'm an idiot and don't know football.

I mean i'm probably an idiot about a lot of things in life but football isn't one of them.

BossChief 04-29-2016 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12204094)
The news about Jack not needing microfracture surgery didn't come until a couple hours ago, so if that's who they want, its not their fault.

And if you wanted a guy who you knew was going to be there at 37, that extra 4th which is almost a late 3rd may be worth more than we realize in this type of draft.
That was in December. Medicals change with time.

Teams got to take a good, long look at that knee at the combine and nobody wanted the risk in the first round.

I'd be excited if we take him, but prefer to do so at 37 and keep the 4th

Beef Supreme 04-29-2016 02:57 PM
Is it too early to already hate our pick?


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:23 PM.
Page 10 of 13 « First 6789 10 111213
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.