I think the "what's a catch" is legit. When you controlled a ball when you stepped out of bounds (the instant the clock would stop because the play is over), it's easy to question.

That being said, I'll ask again, if a player catches a ball on a slant route, on the home team's logo, runs to the sideline and has the ball knocked out of his hands after he steps out, is that an incomplete pass? If not, why not (based on the ruling the other day)?

And that's a serious question. I'm not even asking about an edge pass to a WR in the corner of the end zone, I'm talking about somebody near the 50 yard line that's taken steps in bounds?

This view of what has happened is completely bizarre.

Football has been marketed to non-football fans for so long that they've alienated their core audience. The fascination with both yearly and daily fantasy has contributed to making a completely imbalanced game wherein the only thing the league wants to promote is offense in order to bring in new viewers who watch because of fantasy implications.

Couple that with their duplicitous stances on domestic violence and head trauma, and their obsessive desire to remove any element of personality from the game and it's clear that the NFL is a bloated, corrupt, incompetent institution.

As long as it is run this way I hope it continues to wither. Hopefully the bursting of the live TV bubble will force them to work on a better product instead of marketing football to people who don't like sports.

two of the most boring things i have to listen people talk about
1. describing a dream they had to me
2. talking about their fantasy football team / matchup

Dude...last week I had this dream about winning my fantasy football league...

LMAO

...tell me MOAR

There was nothing atrocious about NBA behavior on-and-off the court compared to other sports leagues, and the NBA still has the biggest issue with disparity of any sport. You know when the average season begins that there are three teams, max, who are going to compete for a championship. This year it's two. The officiating is still poor.

The NBA evolved because it embraced a more international style of play thanks to the Seven Seconds or Less era in Phoenix. There were some changes in the hand check rules, but the rules have changed little. More than anything, the NBA benefited from the emergence of another once-in-a-lifetime player like LeBron James and a number of other incredibly gifted athletes. They've also allowed their players to humanize themselves both on the court and through social media platforms.

LMAO

I just sick of the games getting in the way of my commercials....

Goddell is screwed either way. If he doesn't make enough rules, the new age of soft whiny people will complain the players are not protected and the league doesn't care about their players. That it is a blood sport etc.

If Goddell makes too many rules, it pisses off the people who enjoy the hits and that sort of savagery.

I used to be addicted to Call of Duty. I played every single day and absolutely loved it. Then I went through a phase where I began to realize I was still playing all the time, but I wasn't enjoying it anymore. I was more annoyed / frustrated the whole the time than I was having fun. Eventually I just didn't turn it on one day, and it hasn't been on again since then. I'm 6 years clean now. :)

I'm at that stage with football right now, and even the Chiefs. I used to be addicted to football. Die hard Chiefs fan and football fan in general. Glued to my couch every Sunday from noon - midnight. The highs were extremely high and the lows were extremely low.

Over the last 5 years or so, I've found myself becoming more and more annoyed and frustrated while watching than I am enjoying it. I'm still watching, but I'm getting close to just turning it off and never turning it back on again.

Defenders can't play defense anymore. It's just ridiculous watching offenses march up and down the field without any worry of a defender actually trying to keep them from catching the ball. If they do try it's just a flag and a fine, so you can literally see them "letting up" to let the guy catch the ball.

It used to be that a play would happen, you would have a reaction (good or bad) and then you might go, oh, there's a flag.

Now, every single play is "is there a flag? No? Ok now I can react." That alone takes the immediate emotion out of whatever happened.

Even when calls go the Chiefs way I find myself annoyed because it was a ridiculous call on many occasions, and I find myself griping even when we gained a bunch of yards because of it. In the back of my mind I know a similar play is going to go against us, and it's all a matter of timing with such plays that make it a really big deal or not.

Nobody knows what a catch is anymore. "Rules specialists" get it wrong every time they try. Or is it the guys on the field getting it wrong? Nobody knows.

I feel like it's not about the players anymore. It's about rules and refs and how any particular ref/umpire/crew is going to see a subjective thing. A game, heck, a season can come down to things that have nothing to do with the players, and it seems to be happening more and more.

My highs and lows have settled into a "Meh" for pretty much everything. Chiefs have been taking the ball away a lot lately. In the past I'd be screaming and jumping and high fiving and ecstatic any time that would happen. Now I just kinda smile and think, oh, good job. I never jump off the couch anymore, though, for any reason good or bad.

Same when things go against us. I just kinda roll my eyes and think oh well. My emotion is gone because the game I fell in love with is completely different now. It's simply not the same game.

The experience at the stadium is a big part of that, too. I used to think nothing was better on earth than being at Arrowhead with thousands of fans. They've completely destroyed the stadium experience, though, which is why I killed my tickets at a time when we've won, what, 9 home games in a row..?? It's just not worth it anymore even when they're winning.

As others have mentioned, the commercials are just insane, too. For example, "Welcome back from the break. Let's watch this kickoff sail out of the back of the endzone, and now we'll take another commercial break."

Because of that I never watch any games live anymore. I record them so I can fast forward, and that's honestly a part of why I don't watch other games I think. I'm watching the Chiefs game recorded while the other games are on, and I don't care enough about the others to record them and watch later, so my viewership went from noon - midnight to just whenever I want to watch that one game.

So yeah, I'm still watching the Chiefs games, but I don't watch hardly any other games anymore, and I feel like I'm getting closer and closer to just quitting altogether. Same stages that my video game addiction went through. In a way it's kind of sad, like I've lost a long-time friend.

You're a ****ing moron

Goodell isn't running anything

He does what he told, the most you can get pissed at him about is the inconsistency of the handling of the rules. Even that is influenced by outside forces.

You have the NFLPA ****ing with everything they can and you have the owners who are looking at everything from a money perspective.

fyi they have paid out on players safety SEVERAL times and the NFLPA wants to triple,quadruple dip. They will never stop asking for more even as they try to block safety rules and implementation.

I can't remember how long ago it was..but Jimmy Raye said in 20 years, the NFL would be dead.

I don't watch as much as I nearly did. It's blatantly obvious they favor certain teams. OPI and DPI happen on every play, blatant holding happens every play....Hali used to get held on a consistant basis. It's the fallback to determine games, or take away big plays.

Money , IMO, has corrupted the game.

And it bums me out..I've loved football since I played as a kid.

....with each passing year it just all seems scripted and contrived.

:shake: :(

Yea wait till the "eye test" ****s Kansas City. SAME people are gonna want replay back