The defense gave up a shit ton of yards. I know they had a lot of takeaways, and tended to stiffen in the red zone, but that's not a model I trust to get the job done, especially in the playoffs going up against the golden boy teams.

Playoffs? Sure, I'll go with that but as we saw in the Pro Bowl, it's Sutton's M.O. But with that said, after 4 years, I find it extremely unlikely the Chiefs, with Alex at QB, advance past the first round.

But that said, this team is freaking loaded, even at backup QB. They finished the season at 12-4 with 2 starting defensive lineman, their best running back and linebacker on IR, along with their best guard, while Houston only performed in one game.

This team is 9-7, at worst, in 2017.

What in the **** are you talking about?

You mean all of about 6 CP posters who dared to defend Alex Smith in anyway only to be shredded by most of the rest of the CP posters. Only to be declared "trolls" because daring to annoy the rest of CP nation by saying that "Alex Smith isn't terrible" is enough to be considered a Troll.

Is that the "Chiefs fans" you are talking about?


Moronic ****s around here are just incredible in their stupidity

So basically the best we can hope for is a first round playoff win followed by a second round loss to Pittsburgh/New England. Yay.

I have to believe that Dorsey is gonna address the ILB position be it in FA or the draft. That alone will do wonders to shore up the D against the run. I don't trust that DJ is going to return and even if he does... that he will be anywhere near as effective as he was.

Yep, i was critic of Green too.

But let's be honest here

Back then being a Trent Green "basher" amounted to calling him TrINT and saying his arm strength wasn't very good. Not even in the same universe as the the total destruction we rain down on the QBs nowadays. Much the the country itself, CPlanet is getting more vicious year-to-year.

I know. It's a Catch-22.

Chiefs.

Hard to argue with that.

Like i said, no QB will be good enough until we win a super bowl.

Doesn't mean a **** whether we draft him or not.

Only an elite QB, who takes us to the super bowl, will keep the hounds at bay.

Criticisms of Green dwindled over the years, as he showed improvement each and every year up until the Bengals headshot. Most got off his ass late in 2002.

As long as a rookie QB was showing improvement every year most would be patient with him.

It sure beats watching a guy over 30 get worse.

I don't care about yards given up, especially on the ground.

It's a passing league, which should be evident to anyone that watches the game and realizes the two best passing offenses in the NFL are squaring off Sunday.

Sutton runs the "Bend, don't break" and held the Steelers to six field goals.

The Patriots gave up two TD's to the same offense.

The Chiefs defense isn't at issue.

Not to mention a trash receiving corps besides an emerging Tyreek and Kelce here andn there not much to work with

Yeah, a trash receiving corps outside two huge playmakers.

I think most QBs would be pretty happy with a receiving corps of Maclin/Hill/Kelce/Conley. Not to mention that Ware is a good receiving back.

The same people who were loudly proclaming we had an undefensible group of skill position players in preseason are now shitting on same group of skill position players.

You can't have it both ways.

I think Conley is emerging and will be a fine #3.

The problem is that once again, Dorsey overpaid a WR. First, it was Bowe, who shit the bed in Year 2 and now Maclin, who shit the bed in Year 2.

$14 million a year should be reserved for the Dez Bryant's and Odell Beckham's of the world.

Not Jeremy Maclin, who's numbers were matched by a second year 3rd rounder.