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mcaj22 06-24-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12929898)
Remember this is the organization the allowed a placekicker to dictate a coaches fate and Lamar followed up on it.

it's stupid; Belichick operates that way on a daily basis in New England and gets praised for it.

Dorsey doesn't have the rings to back it up, follows a similar style and gets basically fired cause some position players feelings are hurt because of and x and y reasons.

ptlyon 06-24-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929523)
The whole idea that Lamar would have told Clark, on his death bed or not, to never draft a QB in the fist round is ridiculous. It defies common sense.

I was actually going to make a joke about that on the reaction video because it seems like that's exactly what it looks like

Mav 06-24-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12929813)
So it comes down to a couple of hurt feelings? Maclin should have answered his ****ing phone, he didn't he can go **** himself



Love EB but would rather have Dorsey if it came down to it. I don't blame Dorsey for the insurance fiasco. Seems like Dorsey was trying to do what was best for the franchise, not for individual players



But you do best for the franchise by doing what's best for the players. At the end of the day the players make your franchise.


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BlackOp 06-24-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12929902)
it's stupid; Belichick operates that way on a daily basis in New England and gets praised for it.

Dorsey doesn't have the rings to back it up, follows a similar style and gets basically fired cause some position players feelings are hurt because of and x and y reasons.

Shame on Hunt/Reid for pampering Berry and catering to his hurt "feels". Pull that shit in New England and you get sent to the Browns.

There has to be a chain of command in any structure....and the players know not to **** with Belichick. He's like "you dont like it...fine...bye".

In KC, just pout until you get your way...and the owner is more concerned with bad press and his marketable safety's happiness.

Berry will be gone in a few years...the GM stays for much longer.

Sounds like it really is a family atmosphere at Arrowhead One..a dysfunctional one like everyone else.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929931)
Berry will be gone in a few years...the GM stays for much longer.

Berry has already outlived two GM's and at this rate, it's likely to be three,

BlackHelicopters 06-24-2017 11:22 AM

It's a business. Organized. Connected . Mafia run.

BlackOp 06-24-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929936)
Berry has already outlived two GM's and at this rate, it's likely to be three,

After following this team for 35+ years...it looked like they finally stumbled onto that rare GM/head coach chemistry. Good cop/bad cop. Then the rookie owner mingles and ****s it up...why am I not surprised. He did create the Haley/Cassel/Pioli cluster****.

I'm starting to believe Berry's persona is horseshit...he doesn't seem grateful/humble at all.

T-post Tom 06-24-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12929789)
"Clark, who over the next few weeks will be hiring the fourth Chiefs GM in the last decade."

This is what stands out to me. At some point, you have to realize, it's not everyone else Hunt, it's you.

As others have pointed out, it will be Clark's 3rd GM. Pioli was hands down a great hire at the time he joined the Chiefs. Top GM prospect by almost all accounts. Nobody could have predicted his frenzied megalomania and ultimate failure.Dorsey was also a good hire. He accomplished some good things while he was here. And it's not like he was fired after one bad season. We still don't know the deets. So I disagree with the premise that there's something wrong with Clark as far as team success & relationships with GM's go. At least not with the information we have right now.

prhom 06-24-2017 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929931)
Shame on Hunt/Reid for pampering Berry and catering to his hurt "feels". Pull that shit in New England and you get sent to the Browns.

There has to be a chain of command in any structure....and the players know not to **** with Belichick. He's like "you dont like it...fine...bye".

In KC, just pout until you get your way...and the owner is more concerned with bad press and his marketable safety's happiness.

Berry will be gone in a few years...the GM stays for much longer.

Sounds like it really is a family atmosphere at Arrowhead One..a dysfunctional one like everyone else.

Only one player in NE who is untouchable, Tom Brady. The rest are replaceable. They may not be replaced with a superior or even equal player, but that is less important than the players knowing they are part of a team and aren't going make top dollar when they are there.

mdchiefsfan 06-24-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12929914)
But you do best for the franchise by doing what's best for the players. At the end of the day the players make your franchise.


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I wonder how many of the people bitching about Clark doing right by the players bitch about their employers not doing right by them.

cwhocares 06-24-2017 07:56 PM

Doesn't seem awkward. Hunt was right there when the deal was made. I would think he approved.

DaneMcCloud 06-24-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929956)
After following this team for 35+ years...it looked like they finally stumbled onto that rare GM/head coach chemistry. Good cop/bad cop. Then the rookie owner mingles and ****s it up...why am I not surprised. He did create the Haley/Cassel/Pioli cluster****.

I'm starting to believe Berry's persona is horseshit...he doesn't seem grateful/humble at all.

You moved the goalposts and veered off topic.


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