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The Franchise 09-01-2017 10:04 AM

Erving has shown that he absolutely CAN'T play center. And Fulton is too valuable to this team right now.

DJ's left nut 09-01-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13050399)
Erving has shown that he absolutely CAN'T play center. And Fulton is too valuable to this team right now.

And he's on a 6th round rookie's contract. There's no cap savings and they're not going to roll with 6 OL. 8 is a bare minimum and Fulton knows the scheme, costs nothing and can play anywhere on the interior. I guess if they decided on 8 only Devey could take his job, but Fulton is younger, more experienced in the system and just appears to my eyes to be better.

Frankly, I'd need a reason to cut Fulton and I can't find a single one.

Direckshun 09-01-2017 10:16 AM

QB: Smith, Mahomes, Bray
RB: Hunt, Spiller, West
FB: Sherman

WR: Hill, Conley, Wilson, Thomas, Chesson, Kemp
TE: Kelce, Harris, Escobar

LT: Fisher, Schwartz
LG: Witzmann, Ehinger
C: Morse, Fulton
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Fulton
RT: Schwartz, Erving

DE: Jones, Nunez-Roches, Kpassagnon
NT: Logan, Nunez-Roches
DE: Bailey, Jenkins, King

OLB: Ford, Hali, Kpassagnon
ILB: Wilson, Pierre-Louis, Ragland
ILB: Johnson, Eligwe
OLB: Houston, Zombo

CB: Peters, Mitchell, Nelson, Gaines, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorensen, Murray

K: Santos
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

That's 53. Hated having to cut Miller at NT and Ross Travis at TE.

O.city 09-01-2017 10:17 AM

I don't think Jenkins and king make it. Miller will make it over one of them I'd imagine

Direckshun 09-01-2017 10:17 AM

Just watched Week 4.

Man, they've been playing Kpass at OLB the entire preseason.

I think they really are about to cut Tamba Hali.

Wow.

O.city 09-01-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13050433)
Just watched Week 4.

Man, they've been playing Kpass at OLB the entire preseason.

I think they really are about to cut Tamba Hali.

Wow.

They can't

That eats up almost all their cap space

Direckshun 09-01-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13050434)
They can't

That eats up almost all their cap space

They don't need it the cap space this year, do they? They've got like $10 million in space at this time.

O.city 09-01-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13050446)
They don't need it the cap space this year, do they? They've got like $10 million in space at this time.

With being able to roll it over to next year, I'd rather they keep it.

That 10 or 11 mil plus the cap they gain from letting smith and tamba go next year could be huge in restocking some spots and or extn suins

Bowser 09-01-2017 10:38 AM

They won't cut Hali this year, but I can see stowing him and his shit awful contract away on IR and cutting him next year.

Dorsey did a number of things right, but man oh man did he ever **** up the Tamba Hali contract situation.

DaneMcCloud 09-01-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13050446)
They don't need it the cap space this year, do they? They've got like $10 million in space at this time.

They need at least $5 million in reserve to cover injuries.

Cutting Hali would result in a $7.35 million dollar Dead Money charge and with approximately $10 million left, they'd have less than $3 million.

DaneMcCloud 09-01-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Modser (Post 13050477)
Dorsey did a number of things right, but man oh man did he ever **** up the Tamba Hali contract situation.

He ****ed up nearly every contract extension and free agent signing

Direckshun 09-01-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Modser (Post 13050477)
They won't cut Hali this year, but I can see stowing him and his shit awful contract away on IR and cutting him next year.

Dorsey did a number of things right, but man oh man did he ever **** up the Tamba Hali contract situation.

The contract situation would have been fine if Sutton didn't **** it up by effectively benching a legendary passrusher in the divisional round of the playoffs.

Hali has created a shit ton of problems for us now by providing us (a.) a disgruntled player (b.) that isn't being played enough to justify his contract.

DaneMcCloud 09-01-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13050474)
With being able to roll it over to next year, I'd rather they keep it.

That 10 or 11 mil plus the cap they gain from letting smith and tamba go next year could be huge in restocking some spots and or extn suins

Smith, Hali & DJ are not likely to return next year, which will free up about $32 million.

Even with rolling over $10 million (and it's most likely closer to $5 million), they're still $1 million over. If they rollover nothing, they'd be $6 million over.

They have decisions to make with Peters and Morse in 2018 and in 2019, Tyreek Hill and Dee Ford.

They're not even close to being out of cap hell.

DaneMcCloud 09-01-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13050483)
The contract situation would have been fine if Sutton didn't **** it up by effectively benching a legendary passrusher in the divisional round of the playoffs.

No, it wouldn't.

Dorsey took a $4 million dollar Dead Money charge in 2016, then turned around and signed Hali to a 3 year, $21 million dollar deal with $12 million guaranteed.

That was on top of way overpaying for Jeremy Maclin, in which the Chiefs are feeling the effects this year ($2.4 million in Dead) and next year (another $5 million in Dead).

Not to mention, cutting Jaye Howard after extending him and eating another $5 million in Dead Money.

Cutting Ramik Wilson cost them nearly $1 million, too, and that's before he was re-signed.

Dorsey was a cluster**** when it came to the cap.

Direckshun 09-01-2017 10:51 AM

I know the numbers, but planting a locker room leader and Chiefs icon on the bench for 90% of the snaps is stupidity in the finest degree.

It turned the Chiefs' biggest locker room cheerleader into a curmudgeon -- a year I hope he breaks his damn back getting Kpass geared up for 2018 if this team is serious about putting him on the outside.


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