Said this during the '23 preseason before he ever played a regular season down. You could just tell he didn't belong out there with real NFL players.

Flutie wasn't that great. His career was under 55% and he struggled most of the time with TD:INT ratio. He really only had one legitimately solid season in his entire career. He's just a nice story coming from the CFL and being small but it certainly doesn't make him good.

Kyler and Russell are legitimately 25-30 pounds heavier than Midget. Midget artificially inflated his weight, which he can't carry, for the combine.

Not only does the real weight matter but the arm strength. Kyler and Russell have way stronger arms than Young. They can make those off-platform throws you have to make if you're short and can't make traditional throws over the top.

Flutie is the best Young could ever hope to be and I just don't see it.

Sure, but 55% completion back in those days wasn’t terrible. For reference, Elway was just under 57% and Marino ended his career at 59%.

I’m not saying he was great, but you don’t stick around the league for that long if you’re truly terrible.

It may be a combination of factors for Young. I’m just not sure the reason for the difference in performance between Bryce Young and Drew Brees, who was also short, slight and had a relatively weak arm, is just an inch’s worth of height.

So how bad will this pick end up being in a historical sense?

Good point on Elway. I tend to remember the latter half of Elway's career over the first half which were significantly different. Of course, Flutie came back to the NFL pretty much when Elway was done and things were already changing. Elway's completion percentage was much higher in that last half. You think that by 1998, half the QBs in the league were starting to hit 60% regularly.

Flutie wasn't terrible, I just don't know about the words good or one of one.

Midget on the other hand, so far looks every bit of terrible.

Well Andy Dalton just put up 300 yards and 3 scores so....really bad.

It's an all timer. Worse than Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell. Up there with Trey Lance, but maybe worse. It's not just how spectacularly he busted, but also the huge haul of draft picks AND giving up DJ Moore to get him. Set this franchise back years. This might go down as the worst draft pick ever.

Red Rifle lit it up with the same cast ROFL

i saw that score and immediately thought, "how the hell bad is Bryce Young?"

Jesus. Dalton was washed 5 years ago.

I got sooo much shit for stating what should have been obvious to everyone.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=334613

Does Andy Dalton or Bryce Young have more trade value?

Yeah, Bryce looks terribad.

Andy Dalton making them look respectable certainly isn’t a good look for Young.

Maybe the Panthers did genetic testing and figured out that he's still growing. He'll end up being 6-6 or something.

Me too.

People were talking about how AWESOME Watson was, and I was looking at the 'highlights' and seeing almost exclusively 50/50 jump balls to Deandre Hopkins. To me, it was HOPKINS that looked great, not Watson. Watson looked like he was just arm punting the ball down to Hopkins any time it was 1 on 1.

There's just no way that's sustainable, I thought.

Oooooooof