I actually think you have it the other way around. Mahomes is still more important than Kelce yes. But Kelce is a tad better at his position than Mahomes is.

I don't think it is outlandish, at all, to say Mahomes would not have been to a SB or at least not won a SB had it been for Kelce.

Considering the well noted history of players coming back from a PT injury, I'd be totally cool with Simmons sitting this year

It gives him that extra time to iron out any potential kinks and learn our game... treat him like a prized rookie QB that you don't wanna throw straight into the fire

And yeah, get some return on the investment with Moore in the meantime

I think Patrick has tunnel vision for Kelce and ignores other guys too often. The best games of Patrick's career (both college and professional) have been when he spreads the ball around to a bunch of different guys. The QB trying to force the ball to an aging, slow tight end is a very bad strategy. From that standpoint, I am looking forward to Kelce's retirement.

Not having Kelce on the field will force Patrick to simply throw to the open guy, no matter what the name is on the jersey. What other choice do you have? He had a game back in 2021 (Steelers) where Kelce didn't play at all and Tyreek barely played. Mahomes torched them by just spreading the ball around to a lot of different JAG guys:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/...401326565#home

What happened in 2018?

Are you Nagy's son?


What is your obsession with defending him?



How many years of Mahomes prime do you propose we waste with Matt Nagy doing his thing?

They had a competent LT in Trent Brown, a first ballot HOF TE (Gronk), their 2nd leading WR wasn’t cut (Gordon) and their WR3 was still there (Hogan) and didn’t lost James Develin and David Andrews to injury.

In 2019 only 1 Patriots WR in 2019 (Edelman) had at least 30 receptions.

Major OL issues as well as a lack of explosive playmakers at the skill position. That….sounds familiar.

We’ve been to 5 Super Bowls in 6 years wining 3. Best 3 year run in NFL history. Even with the offensive issues, saying we are “wasting Mahomes prime” is absolute lunacy.

The elite QB whose prime is being wasted resides in Buffalo

Yes, credit Nagy for years when he wasn't the OC is one way to improve morale.

Under Nagy as OC we "went to a SB" because we had an elite defense and Patrick Mahomes made it work.

Still, not scoring a TD in 15-16 STRAIGHT drives in the AFC Championship and Super Bowl shows how much a drag Nagy is on the team.

This year in the playoffs offense was awful in 2 out of 3 games and was good against Buffalo. But even's Nagy's spread them out they can't cover it all works against McDermott's stale zone D.


I would prefer to make it easier on our QB, not harder.

Then run the ****ing football and don't ask him to throw 40 times a game.

I think Simmons plays mid season. I’d probably be ok with him even playing rt but another topic altogether

So would the Chiefs, which is they drafted Josh Simmons to fix the biggest problem on offense: the QB getting beaten to the ground all game when it matters.

I dont think anyone is crediting Nagy, dude.