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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18051111)

It's the arm length, IMO.

And I'll preface this by again saying that I love the player and very much wanted us to take him before the draft.

That said, his biggest asset is converting speed to power, IMO. And that IS a little more difficult when you have shorter arms because it's harder to get inside the OLs pads. What really makes that effective is if you can land a punch, rock 'em a little bit and then drive them backwards and/or dip/rip through them.

I don't think the arm length is the sort of thing that will cost him being a productive NFL player, but it MIGHT make things a little more complicated for him or maybe make him someone more adept at crushing the pocket than actually finishing sacks (a little like GK in that regard, though for different reasons).

I like him, but if you wanna know why he fell further than his production and athleticism says he should've, that's why. It's not pure height - it's reach. The height is a little on the shorter side but not brutal; 5'3"ish absolutely works. It's having arms under 32 inches that is a bit disconcerting.

I mean there's a non-zero chance that he ends up a guy like Josh Paschal who can create some pressure and havoc, but isn't gonna go out there and get 8-10 sacks/season.

This is why the Rams wanting to trade up for him makes me feel really good about him.

Braden Fiske-31 inches
Kobie Turner-32 inches
Byron Young-32.5 inches

They’ve been taking advantage of talent dropping for that reason for years and it worked in large part bc each of those guys is really good at converting speed to power and winning bc they are just so goddamn athletic and explosive that it’s hard for OL to get their hands on them.

I’m thinking he’ll be just like them

yeah.

I mean, if Paschal is the guy you're worried about him being, Fiske is definitely the guy you hope he can be.

And in the middle it's just a question of technique and timing, IMO. Aim the punch at the right spot and the right time and even with the shorter arms, you'll have enough success to be productive.

Some of his success at the college level is bully ball. You can see him getting into an OLs body and just driving him back. You can't do that all that often in the NFL. They're big dudes.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18051111)

... but what if we operate on the assumption that his arm length, like everyone else's, is 3/8 to 5/8 longer than measured at the combine?

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18051111)

I actually think a 5'3 DE with 32 inch arms would be fun to watch on Sundays!

I don't get the whole arm length thing. Yea, it's not ideal. But he was taken with the 66th pick in the draft. Blue chip EDGE rushers typically go in the top 5 overall. Not even kidding. Usually by pick 6 the blue chippers at EDGE are gone.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18051168)

... but what if we operate on the assumption that his arm length, like everyone else's, is 3/8 to 5/8 longer than measured at the combine?

32.5..ish plays ball

Within a finger nail of Karlaftis.

Ranking NFL's top 10 instant impact rookies for 2025:

8. Ashton Gillotte, EDGE, Chiefs
Gillotte is simply one of those defensive linemen that produces. He's not a freakazoid athlete. He doesn't have outstanding measurables. He just learned how to defeat blocks efficiently while getting upfield -- or bending the corner -- in college, and that nuance is rarely seen in trench prospects.

At Louisville, Gillotte pieced together back-to-back seasons with more than 55 quarterback pressures on 363 and 373 pass-rushing opportunities respectively. At a hair under 6-3 and 264 pounds with shorter arms, he demonstrates a unique bend of speed-to-power conversion, an occasional flash of bendiness, and he plays with the pedal to the floor on every snap.

Kansas City needed a secondary outside rusher beyond George Karlaftis, especially given the lack of development for Felix Anudike-Uzomah. Gillotte won't be earning Defensive Rookie of the Year consideration in his debut campaign. He'll be a steady producer from the jump as a rotational piece who can hold up against the run and flash as pass rusher without much attention on him in 2025.

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