3 errors in the last 4 games. Supposed to be his "natural" position. Doesn't look so "natural" over there so far.

God damn it Holliday, you bum.

Just blew a tag on a stolen base when the ball beat the runner by a mile.

Sloppy shitty baseball and a complete lack of hitting with RISP.

Frustrating.

I don't understand why this team cannot hit?

Am I just stupid?

Outside of Borjous and Wong this looked like a salty lineup at the beginning of the season.

In fairness it's been 20 games. Still, I'm not a big fan of them turning into nothing but slap hitters.

If you want to get the Cardinals out just pitch inside. No one is willing/able to turn on a pitch, and when they get jammed trying to inside out it, a bunch of feeble flares result.

I know it's only been 20 games, but not hitting plagued us last season in the WS.

In all fairness, I still think we will win the NL central. This offense just leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

The Cardinals scored 77 more runs than any other team in the NL last year.

Now, part of that was due to aberrational hitting with RISP, but they were still an excellent offense. What hurts them is the need to string together multiple hits to plate runs because they lack almost all power.

Allen Craig needs to be hitting 25 HR a year, not 13, and Adams and Holliday need to be at/around 30.

I got to thinking and you're right. That's why I edited my comment. I forgot that we destroyed the record for hitting with RISP last season.

I'm hoping Holiday will heat up as the weather does. He is typically that kind of hitter, no?

Not really. Was last year, but his month-month splits are within a normal range, save for July

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....on=OF&season=0

Saw the graphic that he swings on 51% of first pitches. Why throw him a strike? He'll just pop up or hit a weak grounder.

To be fair, way too many Cardinal hitters are taking bad at bats.

I'm getting real sick of seeing Robinson take those late in the game PH at bats. He has never done shit to warrant a free ride. We have Butler who is hitting .400 with power. Why not call him up? We picked him up off the waiver wire, he's no prized prospect.

He's not on the 40 man, so you have to outright someone in order for that to go down.

We could let Kosma go. If someone did pick him up it would probably be best for both parties.

Robinson has no value. Send him packing. We are not putting our best team out there to win. Robinson isn't our future. If Butler doesn't produce at the big show level then we are not any worse off than we are now with Robinson taking those AB's.

What about letting Taveras take Robinson's at bats? That would make sense to me seeing as how we need a power bat and I've seen him labeled as a "Vlad Guerrero" type ceiling.

Do you want someone that young playing one quarter time? He's not going to reach his ceiling on the bench. And while I am no huge Robinson fan, I'd rather move Jay, who is still overrated and has some trade value.

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I'd like to see the Cardinals make a move for a guy like Eric Chavez. He could start against the occasional RH at third, he's got some pop, and he's also a semi-competent bench bat, unlike Descalso.

Taveras won't be up until he can get regular ABs

I'm good with that, he can still produce.

He needs to stay healthy for longer than 10 minutes as well.

What a catch!

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Radio just doesn't do it justice.

I'm buying Extra Innings next month.

Albert with jack #500 tonight.

Congrats old pal.

Offense is still anemic as hell.

It's pathetic. This is the Mets. One of the bottom feeders.

We need to look at how the players prepare for hitting in spring training next year. They are all taking bad at bats. Look unprepared, like they are still trying to figure out their swing. They are guessing and usually poorly.

If anyone were interested, I'd move Craig to make room for someone if you're determined to bring one of those guys up.

I tend to think he's peaked as a hitter and won't ever be that 25 HR guy the Cards need him to be.

I just don't understand pulling Wainwright here unless he is hurt.

We need PGM to tell us this offense will be fine.

Te offense will eventually get going, to many guys who have hit before aren't hitting now.

They didn't just forget how to hit I don't think. That said, as mentioned, you can't rely on barisp to be what it was.

At some point Matheny has to realize that Descalso and Robinson off the bench to PH is not going to cut it.

We have 2 potential All-Stars (Taveras and Piscotty) that should be ready next year. We also have other RF's that are looking good at the AA level and below. Something has to give.

I hope Carpenter figures out how to move the bat off his shoulder soon.

JFC Holiday is having a Jeckyle and Hyde game.

Nice to see Rosenthausen as our closer this year.

Between Craig, those two and Adams, there should be enough abs to go around

That's exactly vwhat I said

Waino with a hyperextended knee. Hopefully not a big deal

Old man Albert tearing it up

Matheny had Martinez warming up. Thats pretty telling on long his leash is this year.

OT-How did Gerritt Cole not get suspended for starting a brawl?

Peralta = Teh suck

Lol @ a balk.

Playing like the Bad News Bears.

have to admit: I laughed.

Wacha is only the 7th pitcher in baseball history to strike out the side through 3 innings and then can't make it to the 5th inning after walking in 2 runs in the 4th inning.

You guys see his curve ball tonight? Had Waino like break tonight.

Down 2 runs. Peralta gets a middle of the plate waist high fat ass pitch and he pops out to the 2B. He's now 0-21 or something like that.

I didn't think it was possible to hit worse than Kozma.

Look like shit and wear the pussy face masks? If your face cold? Suck it up. You look like pussies.

4 runs in a 4 game series against the Mets? Surely this is the low point of the season?:sulk:

And still, 5-6 on an 11 game road trip. Could've been worse.

They've turned this lineup into a bunch of slappy assholes. Craig continuously gets himself out, Wong looks overmatched as hell and no one can't hit the long ball.

Shelby can't throw strikes.

Find the ****ing zone

Craig 0-2 with 2 groundouts to the pitcher.

Jesus Christ

Craig is really hitting into some shit luck as well though. That ball isn't caught by 90% of the CF in baseball right now.

He was pretty good tonight against the Pirates who had beat him every time they faced him.

He was effectively wild.

Craig with a sweet double play.

Martinez is such a talent. He has a one run lead. Walks the leadoff batter. Throws a wild pitch. Gives up a hit. Intentionally walks to face Alvarez(who has killed us) with the bases loaded with one out. Gets out of the jam with no runs scored. Impressive.:clap:

The Cardinals Babip is probably in the low .100's right now.

Way to close her out Rosie.

Fellas, we've gotta start scoring runs.

This is pathetic. This offense shouldn't be this bad.

5 runs in 5 games? We are trying to set some kind of record.

Tonight was tough, because they hit the ball hard, just continuously hit it right at guys.

But Craig, Peralta and Bourjos need to get going. The first two for sure.

I'm not sure about Wong.

Got a bad feeling about this one now. Liriano gets hurt, have the bases loaded with the Cards' best hitter......nothing. Now I expect Lyons to melt down.

Pittsburgh has to have the greatest OF defense of all time. I've never seen a team run down absolutely everything. The Cardinals probably have three straight doubles against almost any other team in baseball.

And Adams nails one right on the button into the shift.

As bad as the offense has been, I can't even get mad at them today. It's like the Pirates have 15 defenders out there.

They are really into those shifts

6 runs in 6 games.:shake:

This shit is getting old.

After 25 games its time to quit using the same approach of they will work through it. It's dragging down everyone. Molina struck out twice yesterday. He use to strike out twice in a month, maybe.

Something different needs to be tried. Just not the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results. Something different is not putting Peralta and Craig in the 2nd slot "to get them going".

Peralta decided to swing it today. Needed that, I'm sick of losing to these scrubs.

Craig just looks lost up there. He needs some time off to work on his swing, approach and take a mental break.

If we are keeping those outfielders down in AAA because they need to play everyday to get better...then WTF are they doing with Wong? Either let him play or send him down to AAA and get it right. If he doesn't get it right, keep him down there.

If they decide to start turning on the inside pitch the shit will buff out.

Garcia and Grichuk up, Wong and Robinson down.

Matheny playing mind games with Wong it seems.

Seems like Matheny and Mo were listening to me.:)

Good. Robinson doesn't bring a thing to the team. Starting Grichuk's year 1 of 6 control is worth it, IMHO. How many times has Robinson came up in the late innings with a chance to get RBI's in a close game? His arm is not much better than Jays.

Looks like we are again going to have to trade something to get bullpen help unless motte returns to some kind of form.

Axford, mujica, someone should have been kept.

And this whole Wong fiasco is just dumb a hell. You want to get the guy ab s, let him play.

He got sent down. And Mujica?! Lawls.