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Spott 01-14-2012 10:25 PM

9/26 against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL. LMAO

Caseyguyrr 01-14-2012 10:26 PM

so glad i dont have to see tebow til next fall

Rasputin 01-14-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8296590)
Is this a new term?

Clever mother ****er.

Hell yes. :thumb:

I think that name should stick. the Broncowards. Seems to fit there persona.

notorious 01-14-2012 10:27 PM

LOL Brady.


"They've been hot, they've been playing well...."


One win in 5 games against a crippled Pittsburgh team. It's like poetry.

KcMizzou 01-14-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8296609)
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WTF, man?

keg in kc 01-14-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8296606)
Seriously. LMAO

Jesus Christ :facepalm: Wait...

Oh yeah, they had to get in how people have always doubted the poor underdog, and how he's fought to get everything he has, even in high school.

Caseyguyrr 01-14-2012 10:28 PM

Waters for MVP

Wallcrawler 01-14-2012 10:29 PM

Maybe John Parr will write a song about this.

KcMizzou 01-14-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8296607)
9/26 against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL. LMAO

Keep him Denver. HE WON A PLAYOFF GAME!!

Rain Man 01-14-2012 10:30 PM

So back on that whole thing about having a running back just throw the ball out of bounds on wide runs if he's going to take a loss...

I see no reason why he can't do it. Here's the rule section on intentional grounding.

Maybe running backs don't do it because they're going to try to make a play and therefore the only scenario to do it would be if someone is already on them, in which case it's risky that you'll fumble on the throw. Or maybe coaches just want running backs to wrap up the ball. I think I'd have my running back ground it, though.



Section 2 Intentional Grounding
DEFINITION
Article 1 Definition. It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage
because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A
realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that lands in the direction and the vicinity of an
originally eligible receiver.
Item 1: Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer,
who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond
the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including
when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If a loose ball leaves the area
bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding
rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.
Item 2: Physical Contact. Intentional grounding should not be called if:
(a) the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected
by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the
direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver; or
(b) the passer is out of the pocket, and his passing motion is significantly affected by physical contact
from a defensive player that causes the ball to land short of the line of scrimmage.
Item 3: Stopping Clock. A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if,
immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball
directly into the ground.
Item 4: Delayed Spike. A passer, after delaying his passing action for strategic purposes, is prohibited
from throwing the ball to the ground in front of him, even though he is under no pressure from
defensive rusher(s).

Frazod 01-14-2012 10:30 PM

Ah, that was supremely satisfying.

BigMeatballDave 01-14-2012 10:30 PM

WHERE WAS YOUR GOD TODAY TE-BOW?

stonedstooge 01-14-2012 10:31 PM

Nice win Patriots. Now I hope you get curb stomped next week

Frazod 01-14-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8296638)
Nice win Patriots. Now I hope you get curb stomped next week

I guess of all the teams left the one I dislike the least is San Francisco. Can't stand any of the remaining AFC teams.

milkman 01-14-2012 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296632)
So back on that whole thing about having a running back just throw the ball out of bounds on wide runs if he's going to take a loss...

I see no reason why he can't do it. Here's the rule section on intentional grounding.

Maybe running backs don't do it because they're going to try to make a play and therefore the only scenario to do it would be if someone is already on them, in which case it's risky that you'll fumble on the throw. Or maybe coaches just want running backs to wrap up the ball. I think I'd have my running back ground it, though.



Section 2 Intentional Grounding
DEFINITION
Article 1 Definition. It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage
because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A
realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that lands in the direction and the vicinity of an
originally eligible receiver.
Item 1: Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer,
who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond
the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including
when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If a loose ball leaves the area
bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding
rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.
Item 2: Physical Contact. Intentional grounding should not be called if:
(a) the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected
by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the
direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver; or
(b) the passer is out of the pocket, and his passing motion is significantly affected by physical contact
from a defensive player that causes the ball to land short of the line of scrimmage.
Item 3: Stopping Clock. A player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time if,
immediately upon receiving the snap, he begins a continuous throwing motion and throws the ball
directly into the ground.
Item 4: Delayed Spike. A passer, after delaying his passing action for strategic purposes, is prohibited
from throwing the ball to the ground in front of him, even though he is under no pressure from
defensive rusher(s).

Again, I say, on a designed running play, if the runner throws the ball away, the team is likely ot be penalized for an illegal receiver downfield.

Dylan 01-14-2012 10:33 PM

Congratulations, Patriot fans!

Rain Man 01-14-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8296647)
Again, I say, on a designed running play, if the runner throws the ball away, the team is likely ot be penalized for an illegal receiver downfield.

Hmm. That's a good point. I didn't see you mention that earlier.

milkman 01-14-2012 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296649)
Hmm. That's a good point. I didn't see you mention that earlier.

Post #652.

keg in kc 01-14-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8296638)
Nice win Patriots. Now I hope you get curb stomped next week

If it's houston, maybe. If it's the Ravens, I'm backing the Patriots again. I ****ing hate Baltimore.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2012 10:39 PM

Man, Tebow got his shit ****ed up.

That was easily worse than Cassel's game last year. At least he completed 50 percent of his passes.

notorious 01-14-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8296657)
If it's houston, maybe. If it's the Ravens, I'm backing the Patriots again. I ****ing hate Baltimore.

This.

Just the thought of Ray Lewis trying to bask in the limelight makes me want to drown puppies.

notorious 01-14-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8296660)
Man, God's anointed NFL disciple got his shit ****ed up.

That was easily worse than Cassel's game last year. At least he completed 50 percent of his passes.

One prison rape required 24 stitches.

This one required 35 stitches.


Make no mistake, they were both brutal.

KCTitus 01-14-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8296660)
...That was easily worse than Cassel's game last year. At least he completed 50 percent of his passes.

Meh...going 10/14 for 18 yards isnt exactly 'better'.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8294413)
Denver's D has been raped by good offenses. When they get behind and are forced to run a real offense, the wheels fall off.

Yes sir.

Rasputin 01-14-2012 10:42 PM

So when exactly is the Patriot way going to start & work for the Chiefs?

listopencil 01-14-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 8296607)
9/26 against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL. LMAO

Do you really think the Pats D played like the 2nd worst D in the league tonight? Or did you just not watch the game?

KCTitus 01-14-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8296670)
So when exactly is the Patriot way going to start & work for the Chiefs?

As soon as they draft their own Tom Brady in the 6th round...

Al Bundy 01-14-2012 10:45 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...81206381_n.jpg

Rain Man 01-14-2012 10:45 PM

If we'd've made one field goal against Oakland, we would have blown the Patriots out tonight.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8296673)
Do you really think the Pats D played like the 2nd worst D in the league tonight? Or did you just not watch the game?

Looked like they teed off on a one dimensional offense to me. Looked like they were facing a high school offense.

milkman 01-14-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8296673)
Do you really think the Pats D played like the 2nd worst D in the league tonight? Or did you just not watch the game?

Give Bill Bellichick 2 weeks to prepare for a team with a limited offense, you're going to get this kind of result.

BigCatDaddy 01-14-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8296684)
Looked like they teed off on a one dimensional offense to me. Looked like they were facing a high school offense.

Once teams see that gimicky offense and figure it out they stuff the Broncos like a Thanksgiving turkey the next time out.

Rain Man 01-14-2012 10:48 PM

I'm a little worried for my safety. Is Von Miller going to live in Denver in the offseason? I don't want to be attacked when I'm not looking.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2012 10:49 PM

He's coming to dump soup on your head, Rain Man.

Spott 01-14-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8296673)
Do you really think the Pats D played like the 2nd worst D in the league tonight? Or did you just not watch the game?

Preparing for a team that has to run the option because their QB is terribly inaccurate will tend to make a defense look better.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 8296690)
Once teams see that gimicky offense and figure it out they stuff the Broncos like a Thanksgiving turkey the next time out.

It's already been figured out. They lost 4 out of thier last 5....Raped by NE twice, Buffalo, and couldn't muster an offensive point against the Chiefs. Safe to say the Pitt game was a.....fraud.

cdcox 01-14-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296691)
I'm a little worried for my safety. Is Von Miller going to live in Denver in the offseason? I don't want to be attacked when I'm not looking.

I'd plan a business trip on the last Monday of October.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=195016

Rasputin 01-14-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296691)
I'm a little worried for my safety. Is Von Miller going to live in Denver in the offseason? I don't want to be attacked when I'm not looking.

Rain Man name from the movie is a celebrity, maybe I could or should pick you for my next pick in the death pool?? :hmmm:

Smed1065 01-14-2012 10:59 PM

Wow for one QB lover just sad......

Dr. Gigglepants 01-14-2012 11:09 PM

Alden Smith had a monster game, I was actually hoping to see Vonn Miller try to match that performance. Instead he disappeared like a little bitch and then exposed his dirty ass for the Bronco scum he is.

Rain Man 01-14-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 8296701)
I'd plan a business trip on the last Monday of October.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=195016


I really hope that holiday takes off. It's been a slow start.

Ugly Duck 01-14-2012 11:14 PM

I missed the Von Miller meltdown.... what happened?

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:16 PM

Well that was fun. :D

Rain Man 01-14-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 8296748)
I missed the Von Miller meltdown.... what happened?

Brady did a quick kick punt, and well after the play ended Miller ran up and hit an offensive lineman in the back in a terrible cheap shot. A couple of Patriots, including Brian Waters, then pulverized the cheapshotting thug. Miller and another cheating Bronco both got called for unsportsmanlike conduct and no Patriots were called.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 8296738)
Alden Smith had a monster game, I was actually hoping to see Vonn Miller try to match that performance. Instead he disappeared like a little bitch and then exposed his dirty ass for the Bronco scum he is.

VONDOOOOOOOOM was invisible. Surprise, surprise that overrated D shredded by a good offense.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 8296748)
I missed the Von Miller meltdown.... what happened?


He went after a player (Olineman) with a cheap shot hit from behind after the play was clearly dead. It was pathetic. All that can be said in his favor was that it was clearly an attack out of frustration, and not meant to injure (he didn't go for the knees or anything). But yeah, not his finest moment.

Steretore did a great job only calling the Donx on the penalty there. Would be easy to do the usual, worthless, offsetting personal fouls.

Ugly Duck 01-14-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296756)
Brady did a quick kick punt, and well after the play ended Miller ran up and hit an offensive lineman in the back in a terrible cheap shot. A couple of Patriots, including Brian Waters, then pulverized the cheapshotting thug. Miller and another cheating Bronco both got called for unsportsmanlike conduct and no Patriots were called.

thanks, dude.... I just found the clip...

http://deadspin.com/5876197/tom-brad...u-mean-punches

Dr. Gigglepants 01-14-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296756)
and no Patriots were called.

Thought that was pretty funny.

Rasputin 01-14-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296756)
Brady did a quick kick punt, and well after the play ended Miller ran up and hit an offensive lineman in the back in a terrible cheap shot. A couple of Patriots, including Brian Waters, then pulverized the cheapshotting thug. Miller and another cheating Bronco both got called for unsportsmanlike conduct and no Patriots were called.

I was a bit shocked no player got ejected from the brawl that insued. Thought it was funny that only the Broncowards got flagged. Von Miller is a giant douchebag.

Ugly Duck 01-14-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8296771)
I was a bit shocked no player got ejected from the brawl that insued. Thought it was funny that only the Broncowards got flagged. Von Miller is a giant douchebag.

Miller got knocked around like a rag doll.... too funny!

Hammock Parties 01-14-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8296754)
Well that was fun. :D

Next week you get bitchslapped by the Ravens...again.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8296786)
Next week you get bitchslapped by the Ravens...again.

Won't be nearly as bad as 2009. We had a really, truly, deeply flawed team in 2009.

But don't get me wrong, we definitely could lose to the Ravens next week. I'm not taking much solace in our defense playing so well today. The Donx offense is uniquely pathetic in many ways.

Ugly Duck 01-14-2012 11:26 PM

Is this what they mean by "Illegal Block in the Back During the Return?"

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880592/von_medium.gif

Rain Man 01-14-2012 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 8296764)
thanks, dude.... I just found the clip...

http://deadspin.com/5876197/tom-brad...u-mean-punches


It happened almost exactly like that, except I recall that Von Miller had a knife, and he was holding a little girl that he had kidnapped off the street.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8296422)
Geez...Gronk is just a monster.

Yeah, a complete beast. Years of Brady/Gronk/Hernandez. Life is good.

Bowser 01-14-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 8296801)
Is this what they mean by "Illegal Block in the Back During the Return?"

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880592/von_medium.gif

Personal Foul on number 58 for going up against a guy that outweighs him by 100 pounds....

ClevelandBronco 01-14-2012 11:35 PM

Well, by golly, that was an entertaining season. All in all, I'm well pleased.

TheGuardian 01-14-2012 11:36 PM

Wow Vaughn Miller is a ****ing pussy ass bitch.

Rasputin 01-14-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8296808)
It happened almost exactly like that, except I recall that Von Miller had a knife, and he was holding a little girl that he had kidnapped off the street.

No, that's not how it happened as I watched it, he pulled out a gun and was screaming like a little girl that he was waiving it in the air like he just didn't care and wanted to shoot the Patriot in the back. Then it got ugly.

Bowser 01-14-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8296828)
Yeah, a complete beast. Years of Brady/Gronk/Hernandez. Life is good.

The only thing hat will slow them down will be if Brady gets Pollard'd again, and the two TE's coming down with Moeaki-itis.

OH NO I JUST SAID IT

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Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:38 PM

So I'm not going to go through this whole thread obviously. Any strong feelings around here on the only two potentially controversial calls in the game, (1) the absurd Gronk TD catch or (2) whether Branch's push-off should've been called?

My thought on (1) was that it was pretty clearly a catch. Ball can touch the ground if it's clearly controlled by the receiver before and through the entire catch. Think Gronk did that.

Branch, meanwhile, clearly did push off, but it seemed the refs were letting the boys play most game, and the Denver player was also playing grabby-games with Deion. Seems to have been a good non-call based on how the refs were handling the game.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2012 11:41 PM

1. Touchdown
2. Officials were letting them play all night...Love those kind of games.

Tribal Warfare 01-14-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8296832)
Personal Foul on number 58 for going up against a guy that outweighs him by 100 pounds....

and pissing off the whole NE O-Line too

LiveSteam 01-14-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8296786)
Next week you get bitchslapped by the Ravens...again.

I bet the Ravens dont make it to next weekend

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8296851)
and pissing off the whole NE O-Line too


Yeah, that wasn't too bright. Clearly frustrated after a great game by the Pats OLine kept Brady clean all night.

Ugly Duck 01-14-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8296851)
and pissing off the whole NE O-Line too

He had four O-linemen on him.... and they bent his body in funny kinda ways...

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PornChief 01-14-2012 11:44 PM

sure hope denver is starting that tebow dude again next season.

Setsuna 01-14-2012 11:47 PM

Disgusting, but I'm glad Niners won.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck (Post 8296861)
He had four O-linemen on him.... and they bent his body in funny kinda ways...


There was a Tebow sack that was about the same. That was a definite ouch moment. That plus the blindside sack by Ellis and I guarantee Tebow will be in pain through Wednesday, at least...

MMXcalibur 01-14-2012 11:48 PM

Not that I care TOO much because it was against the Donks, but the Brady punt was a typical New England "dick move". The passive arrogance of it all just irks me.

PornChief 01-14-2012 11:49 PM

Gronk is awesome, and not just because he hangs with porn stars.

PornChief 01-14-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 8296875)
Not that I care TOO much because it was against the Donks, but the Brady punt was a typical New England "dick move". The passive arrogance of it all just irks me.

they could always have thrown another TD or 2.

ClevelandBronco 01-14-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8296845)
So I'm not going to go through this whole thread obviously. Any strong feelings around here on the only two potentially controversial calls in the game, (1) the absurd Gronk TD catch or (2) whether Branch's push-off should've been called?

My thought on (1) was that it was pretty clearly a catch. Ball can touch the ground if it's clearly controlled by the receiver before and through the entire catch. Think Gronk did that.

Branch, meanwhile, clearly did push off, but it seemed the refs were letting the boys play most game, and the Denver player was also playing grabby-games with Deion. Seems to have been a good non-call based on how the refs were handling the game.

I agree in both cases. In fact, it looked to me as though the Broncos DB initiated the contact and Branch was smart enough to know how to take advantage of the situation just short of getting called for it.

Gronk is just a freakish weapon.

Smed1065 01-14-2012 11:50 PM

No Broncs got served.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 8296875)
Not that I care TOO much because it was against the Donks, but the Brady punt was a typical New England "dick move". The passive arrogance of it all just irks me.


Why? What do you wan him to do on 3rd and 10 from his own 40 or whatever? Risk injury by throwing the ball, then get criticized for running up the score if they convert? Run the ball uselessly for 4 or whatever yards then do a "normal" punt?

Why? Quick kick optimizes field position and avoids injury risk. Seems like a perfectly good call to me.

Denver is going to lose. There's no mercy rule though -- you gotta play the last 10 minutes or whatever. You want us to hand them the football to be nice about it? Seriously, what do you want them to do?

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornChief (Post 8296881)
they could always have thrown another TD or 2.


Agreed. I thought the Pats took the foot off the pedal by the 4th quarter. Hell, we only scored 10 points the entire second half, and it wasn't really because the Denver D had solved our offense...

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 8296882)
I agree in both cases. In fact, it looked to me as though the Broncos DB initiated the contact and Branch was smart enough to know how to take advantage of the situation just short of getting called for it.

Gronk is just a freakish weapon.


Agreed on both. My 7 year old was yapping as usual, but I thought I heard Simms saying he thought Gronk's wasn't a catch, and I was like :spock: ?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Amnorix 01-14-2012 11:58 PM

One last thought -- no idea what Fox was thinking on throwing the ball on 3rd and whatever at the end of the 1st half. I was telling my kids that they need to run -- they have a decent chance of converting because of their decent run game and, more importantly, giving the ball back to Brady after an imcomplete throw with over a minute to go is inviting a dagger to the heart.

And what happens? Incomplete pass. Wow. Just bad coaching IMHO.

jd1020 01-14-2012 11:58 PM

Surprised the Broncos didn't bench Tebow. They got down by a bunch really early and Tebow was ineffective the whole game. He pretty much solidified himself as the starter next season by beating Pittsburgh. They could have pulled him and put an end to that discussion.

Although, the Ravens got rid of Dilfer after they won a SB.

ClevelandBronco 01-15-2012 12:01 AM

Oh, well. I guess that for the rest of the playoffs I get to revert to rooting for the most complete NFL coach I've ever watched.

Get another ring, Bill.


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