Let's call him 15th. It has been 10 years since the 15th best QB in the league won a Super Bowl. What message does it send to trade for the 15th best QB in the league? It says that you don't give a flip about winning the SB. So for a team that is interested in winning a SB, he is worth no more than a back up. He isn't worth more than a 4th round pick. He is totally worthless as a starter, as are all of the fully matured QBs in the bottom half of the league.

depends on his contract if it is a 2- 3 year contract or a long term deal.

Of course it involves who they draft as the heir apparent too.

lol what

Dashon Goldson > Ed Reed and it's not even close

Draft Geno. Then draft another QB in later rd. (see Redskins)
If they bust and never play. It's ok, do it again until u get it right!!! KC needs to treat the QB position like it is as important as the D-line position.

I think this needs SOC.

The Chiefs organization NEEDS Save Our Chiefs. The team couldn't get things right. Many felt this was unacceptable. SOC got Clark Hunt's attention and let him know what the fans wanted.

Hunt thanked the fans by going after the best coach available.

I believe another banner letting the team know we want our QB drafted #1 is needed.

If the team goes after a FA, he better play S, CB LB, or WR. They get a freaking SF QB and it's the freaking 1990's again and it should scare the playoffs right out of you. We've been down this damn road and it leads to a dead end.

I say a banner- "30 years is too long" is needed.

The #1 overall pick is an opportunity that has been knocking on this franchise's door for 40 freaking years.

Answer the door Hunt...Geno's here.

Eagles fans did that for Ricky Williams and look at what happened LMAO

Reid will make the pick he thinks is right. QB or not. I'm rolling with whatever decision he makes.

Terms you don't know:

Stockholm Syndrome
Garbage time

What else are you confused about?

I KNEW THE CHIEFS SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED COLT BRENNAN!!!!

HIS STATS WERE THE UBER GOODZ.

I prefer Brandon Weeden myself.

I prefer Case Keenum myself.

in time...better.
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JFC :doh!:

Chiefs Show Early Interest In 49ers QB Alex Smith

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2013/01/3...ing-to-report/



It wasn’t clear to me the other day whether Rapoport was just speculating on which teams could be interested in Smith or if he was actually reporting that they were.

Tonight, NFL.com began pushing the story a bit harder and they appear to be reporting the interest as the real deal.
Next came this report, yesterday:
So what teams are interested in Alex Smith?
So far: The Buffalo Bills, Arizona Cardinals, Philadelphia Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs. The New York Jets have not shown interest yet. (Of course, any official contact would be against league rules at this stage.)

Tonight, NFL.com dropped another article. This time they quote analyst and former NFL QB Trent Dilfer. According to Dilfer, Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was interested in Smith previously. The Dilfer quotes come from the San Francisco Chronicle.
Again, NFL.com:
“There was a courtship last year, to a certain degree,” Dilfer said.
Dilfer is a fantastic source on Smith news because the two men are close friends from their days together as teammates. Perhaps Reid at one point considered trading for Smith or the Eagles thought about signing Smith as a free agent last year.
“I don’t know a whole lot. I just know there was a courtship. It was not even an inside source, you know what I mean? It was just kind of the scuttle in the offseason,” Dilfer said.
Smith does fit the profile of a potential Reid quarterback.
“I think Andy wants to change a little bit offensively,” Dilfer said. “Alex is a guy with a huge capacity (to learn). You can give him a lot and he can handle it. Andy has always been able to get the most out of guys that don’t have extreme talent.”

Just kill me.

Yeah, that would just be ****tastic.

When Alex Smith talk started a month or so ago, I jokingly said I wouldn't take Smith unless Jim Harbaugh came as part of a package deal.

I don't even want that. I don't want 2011 Alex Smith. I don't want 2010 Cassel. I don't want Trent Green. I don't want Joe Montana.

I want a Kansas City Chief QB. Selected by us and coached by us.

I don't want compromises. Hearing Trent Dilfer say shit like, "Andy has always been able to get the most out of guys that don’t have extreme talent.” is already making me step off this team as a fan.

I'm not putting up with it. Not any more. **** it all if this is the route we choose.

I agree. The last two years Goldson has been amazing, this year I thought was his best yet. He's just peaking. But I don't see the 49ers letting him go. Another tag?

The Ravens are said to be like 20 mill over after they sign Flacco to his big deal. Reed is def on the decline, but I would take him in a heartbeat.
I would like to see the Chiefs get some S help, either Elam and Hartman starting makes for too long of a day.

Berry with a really good vet would help take our D to another level.

If this happens then KC could still draft Geno, and cut Smith the following year.

would anyone really surprised if we wuss out yet again? Not me. Im used to this franchise doing EVERYTHING wrong. We step in chicken salad more often than we make it.
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RB < QB


It's not a RB driven league though

We've had elite RB's before. How many SB rings does JC have?

That wasn't the point. LMAO

Not a chance of that happening.

I believe it is the point. Everyone knows the most important position on the field is QB. It's different than any other position. This franchise has been chicken for drafting a QB in the 1st for 30 freaking years. First time with the first overall pick.

If they screw it up, the team got a tiny glimse of how bad the fans could turn on them. It's QB or bust.

Fully aware of both terms.

Clearly you don't know what garbage time is though if you think your team has to be losing for it to be garbage time.

I know that a shootout does not mean the game is in garbage time mode LMAO

What planet are you ****ing from?

Marshall W 69-34
James Madison W 42-12
Maryland W 31-21
Texas Tech L 49-14
Kansas State L 55-14
Syracuse L 38-14

Yea look at those shootouts.

If you are going to hurt your knees blowing him all offseason you could at least watch ALL of his games like us real fans.

In other words, the Chiefs "interest" in Alex Smith STILL hasn't been CONFIRMED.

I can't believe people haven't learned this lesson with Peyton Manning, or ANDY REID.

Being mentioned this early in the game all but GUARANTEES he won't being coming here.

The Seahawks? I certainly hope you're not comparing Matt Flynn and his ONE WHOLE GAME against Alex Smith and his multiple years as a start in this league.

He took the QB. Oopsie.

Arrowhead Pride, like all Chiefs boards, including THIS ONE, is pretty split on the topic actually.

The difference is that here, some of the most active members in terms of per day volume, are on-board with taking Geno.

Volume of posts does not equal a majority of PEOPLE.

Of course not.

But we always have to have somebody playing the BlackBob role now for some reason.

SEVERAL people here.

And then next year, when Teddy Bridgewater goes #1 overall and the guys left where we're picking in the late teens are garbage, it will be "let's roll with Alex Smith one more year and get a QB in 2015."

And then in the 2015 draft, when 3 QBs go off the board in the top 10, and we're picking 21st, it will be "hell, just give Smith an extension, we'll find a QB eventually."

We've been through this, over and over and over, for THIRTY YEARS. It's ridiculous and it needs to end, NOW.

Exactly this. Alex Smith is that type of QB whos "Just good enough" to keep you from drafting a top level talent.

Ah,I see RunKC is back on the ABG bandwagon.

Bringing in A. Smith would be doing the same thing we've always done. Afraid if we draft our QB and try and develop he might not work out, but we know what Smith is, even if it's not good enough to win, it's good enough not to get us fired.

If they decide to bring him in and don't draft a QB at 1, trying to wait and see if a guy falls into the second round to grab him, then someone they like doesn't fall, thats the first huge black mark on this regime. There will be no "well, we didn't have a chance to draft one" anymore. If you miss on one in this draft, its on them.

You, evidently, missed the polls we have done that show an almost unanimous consensus that this site wants Geno Smith with the top pick.

Enough with the "vocal minority" stuff or the "the board is split" stuff, please.

:clap:

He's right. About 80% said QB or bust in the polls I made.

This is playing out exactly the same as the 2008-2009 offseason. We had the 3rd pick and most normal Chief fans were terrified we were taking a QB, then we went with all warm and fuzzy feeling Matt Cassel cause we knew what he was and what he could do, he will save us.


And here we are 4 years later, in the same place. So enough with this "I'll trust whatever they do" rhetoric. They've talked about building thru the draft and thats how you win. If they go get the most important player of the franchise, not thru the draft, but by taking on another teams backup who you know his ceiling and it's not a SB winning guy, well, tell me how thats different from what Scott Pioli did?

I bet if we posted a poll today of Geno -or- anything else with our top pick, it would be another 80% outcome...or close to it.

This time it would be different.

This.

Time.

Unicorns and rainbows.

Dude, 1/20th of the total user base posts here actively.

The "Geno bandwagon" absolutely IS a vocal minority.

There's PLENTY of people out there that don't want a QB. But they're not daily participants in the discussion.

Try listening to talk radio in Kansas City for any length of time. The "Luke Joeckel and Alex Smith" and "Geno is overrated" crowds outnumber the Geno supports TEN TO ONE.

Exactly. How is this different?


Anyone?


Is it because of where Smith was drafted that makes it ok?

Because the majority of people that actually participate on a daily basis and care enough to even lodge a vote is the group of people you see right here.

The same 20-30 people over and over.

He was being sarcastic.

Yes.


And it absolutely baffles me. Do these people not watch other teams play football? The other teams that have been kicking the dog shit out of us for the past decade?


Successful teams draft their own QB's. Free agent QB's are actually HARDER to win with and have a higher failure rate than first round draft picks.

Oh, I know.


I'm being serious. How is this any different than what Pioli did?

Answer?

IT ISN'T.

How many people voted in that poll, 100? 150?

The "ban BlackBob" poll was one of the highest voter turnouts in the HISTORY OF THE BOARD, and managed just over 200 votes.

That's an infinitely small sample size.

LMAO @ this place

Everyone was super-excited about Reid and Dorsey last month.

Now, people have to be talked off the ledge.

I'm gonna wait to freak out when and if I need to.

Whats the fun in that? Message boards were created for freak out places.


:LOL::evil:LMAO

I'm sure some of them do watch other teams. But those teams aren't the Chiefs, so they're surely wrong.

It's amazing to listen to callers on the radio. You know what 2 Super Bowls in the last 20 years get mentioned more than ALL THE REST COMBINED?

2000 and 2002.

I don't understand why the media is driving this Alex Smith stuff.


Reid and Dorsey's history shows taht they absolutely will draft their own QB.

I'm certainly not freaking out.

I think the chances of landing Alex Smith are somewhere between slim and none.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=267010

178 total votes

145 for Geno

33 for ANYTHING ELSE

To get hits/readers/listeners.

Why did they drive the Manning to Miami talk?

Where did the Andy Reid is going to Arizona GUARANTEED talk come from?

I would get too worked up about anything. All of the rumors swirling about Alex Smith are just that, rumors.

If anything, the brief history of NFL coverage on Twitter has taught me that if we're the front runner for Alex Smith NOW, there's zero chance in hell he's coming here.

This is getting stupid and old. The majority of Chiefs fan listen to the crap that is KC sports radio and TV sports news casters who don't know crap and just repeat whatever their opinion of the day is.

I will give KC sports radio some credit, the majority of those guys are banging the "draft a Qb at 1 overall" drum fairly hard.

So I was right.

There's over FIFTY THOUSAND people in Arrowhead on any given Sunday.

And you're resting on the opinions of 178 people.

Go over to Facebook for a while and then see what you think.

It's been said since this board was conceived - the opinions here are not indicative of Chiefs fans.

I have been saying this was going to be a long off-season.LMAO

I'm trying to get the "more SB's have been won by first round QB's than any other place combined" rhetoric out there to some of the radio guys. Been tweeting it too them for a little bit.

810 is about 80% "take a QB". The problem is that the callers are about 90% the other way.

I actually heard a caller say "Chiefs NEED Geno" this morning, first time in probably 3 weeks.

Petro is pretty wishy washy. I appreciate that the guy is a stat freak and likes to play the analytical game. I just get tired of him NEVER just coming out and saying "**** it, this is what needs to happen".

He's Mr. Careful.

Keitzman has started hanging up on people, pretty funny.

I've actually started to like listening to Keitzman during this off season.

Parker: the vocal minority on this site wants Geno. About 20-30 people. The board is actually split on the topic.

Me: huh? That's not true.

Parker: ummm, yeah it is.

Me: posts poll where it shows how this site wants Geno Smith almost unanimously.

Parker: I was right.

???

Well, those who voted in that pole, yeah, they want Geno. But thats a small amount of Chiefs fans.


I think thats all Parker is saying.

Id venture to guess most fans on here are the hardcore "more informed" fans. Most Facebook fans are the causual "Less informed" type of fan. Thats why you get those sort of reactions.

We weren't talking about the reeruned fanbase as a whole. Just the specific boards.

Acting like it's just a vocal minority of posters here that want Geno (the same 20-30 people over and over) is completely wrong.

Now, if we were talking about the fanbase as a whole, I'd agree completely that it's probably a 50:50 split.

This fanbase loves their BBQ

Bullshit
Backup
Quarterbacks

I think Reid would like to have his own guy, the problem is are any of the QBs really going to project to be a franchise QB. We can wish it is the case, but it does not make it so. I still hope we take Geno Smith, but I can see Reid going a different direction to hedge his bet.

I think he will trade for Foley OR get Smith if the 49ers release him, which I really don't think will happen. Someone is going to step up and give the 49ers a 2nd rounder for Smith.

Foley is not the kind of QB which will work in Chips offense. So I could see the Chiefs trading the conditional 3rd round (I assume they will get a 3rd for Carr) to get Foley.

I dont know if they truly love backup QBs.....but they have been conditioned to think "play the safe choice" Which means play a QB who can basically just get you to the playoffs.

Keeps the tailgates goin, the BBQs lit, the beer flowin and my Sundays are happy.....WooHoo!

First off, you can't trade comp picks. It would have to be the first pick in the third round.


Secondly, you're wrong. Atleast one of these guys will be a franchise QB. Dunno which one, but chances are one will be.

How many of those people that vote "yes" for Geno have actually posted in the Geno thread?

The answer? 20-30.

You manage to get 145 votes "for". And yet those people don't care enough to actually participate in the discussion.

I guaran-damn-tee you if you posted a "would you be ok with Alex Smith" poll, you'd get 3:1 "for".

Most people, while leaning one way or the other, just simply DON'T CARE that much.

Mankind is a qb for the eagles?

Foley?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O1p5dF-Rlv.../MattFoley.jpg

Not even close.

I'd be surprised if yes got 30% of the votes.

Post the poll, let's find out.

I didn't add any qualifiers, like "either draft a QB or Smith".

I simply said "would you be OK with Alex Smith".

The number would likely be much higher than if you added a qualifier.

I really don't care one way or another but you're dramatically underestimating the fail that has infected this fanbase.

We are talking about cp, right?...not the reeruned fanbase.

Exactly. Geno is an overwhelming favorite here. If I was talk about how much I like Joeckel as a prospect it, Id have to preface the statement with "now I'd still take Geno no. 1, but".... otherwise neg rep bombs

This fan base should be ok with any "veteran" QB not currently on the Chief's roster. However, that does not change the fact that Geno Smith (at least for now) is the best option at the #1 pick of the draft for the KC Chiefs.

where is the baylor game you were referencing?

I like Geno Smith at #1, but I wouldn't go around calling it a "fact" that it's the best option.