That's exactly right. When your pitching staff gives up 11 ****ing runs, there's not a helluva lot the manager could have done differently to salvage the win.

He can't just pitch HDH every damn inning of every damn game. Fox Sports tried like hell to anoint Finnegan as the 4th member of that group after he recorded a grand total of two outs in game 3 (one of which was a screaming liner to Alex Gordon), but that was asking a helluva lot for a rookie who was playing college ball last summer.

The bigger question is this: Prison Bitch has become the lone voice of reason in several Royals threads lately. What the **** is going on?

Ned calling the D to throw home instead of turn 2 with the bases loaded and one out was incredibly dumb. Screamer at Escobar would have been a sure double play and the score would have remained 4-4. That was such a bad decision.

Disagree

Just win this ****ing thing. My patience with KC sports is running the **** out.

Not a Yost decision. Escobar made the right play.

I couldn't have said it better myself

Take a deep breath. Remember that the Kansas City Royals are in the ****ing World Series of Major League Basesball. If this doesn't calm you down seek help.

Yeah, "calm" probably isn't the best word to use.

Ned called for Escobar to throw home?

Escobar went to his right. His play home was THE play. Pence was not going to be doubled up as soon as Escobar had to move to the right to field the ball. If the ball would have been to the glove side, moving toward 2B, then you go for the 6-4-3.

Not that it would or should ever be attempted - but I wonder if Dyson has a chance to force Pence at home if he fields that liner on a bounce?

Doubt it. Pence can move.

Doubt it. Pence can move.


Well, hell maybe. I guess he wouldn't tag on a ball that shallow if he was on his feet.

Jason Nix

I'm so ****ing confused by that move. Infante was the only player to have an extra base hit off bumgarner.

THAT'S THE WORST MOVE HE'S EVER MADE. PITCHERS SPOT IS DUE #2 NEXT INNING. LET THAT SPOT ROLL AROUND AND PH WITH SOMEONE LIKE BELLY OR WILLY, REPLACE HERRERA WITH DAVIS LIKE IT SHOULD BE ANYWAY.

INSTEAD YOU DOUBLE SWITCH IN JASON ****ING NIX, HERRERA GIVES UP TWO HITS AND DAVIS COMES IN ANYWAY. IF YOU WERE GOING TO USE DAVIS THAT PITCHERS SPOT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PH FOR AND YOU START THE INNING WITH DAVIS!

YOU ****ING LOSER!

Hate to say it, but keeping Vargas in too long last night when the entire viewing audience knew he needed to come out was a series-losing decision by Ned. The idiotic double-switch tonight was the cherry on top of the shit sundae. Realistically, there was only so many times this team could win in spite of their reeruned manager before his luck finally ran out.

The good news is that the Royals are theoretically primed for more runs at the World Series if they can keep this team together... the bad news is that making it to the World Series this year buys Yost more time when he really should be fired after the season's over. He's just too dumb to win a championship. I hope I'm wrong and that the Royals come back and win it all, but I don't think I will be.

Has anybody figured out why this guy is in the big leagues, on the team, or on the active roster instead of Colon yet?

Nobody knows. Ned and Dayton think they know, though

Saturday was the deal breaker

The series isn't over. I'll never understand the loser mentality of this board. Ventura is pitching against peavy. One should expect a win.

Go back one more game.... He did the same stupid shit with Guthrie.

He's either playing with fire or as crazy as some make him out to be. Either way I tolerate it MUCH better when I listen to the radio over watching it on screen.

It could've been, but I really don't think so. I think Yost has made a couple questionable decisions, but they have tagged every single pitcher that's come out of the bullpen the last two days. And people wanted to go to the bullpen earlier. It doesn't matter. They just flat beat us. Players have to execute.

1n 1985 the Royals were down 3-2. Did they quit **** no. Royals are winning this in game 7 book it now

For the last couple of months I've been defending Ned Yost like he was my brother.

But goddamn, he's really pissed me off the last 2 days.

Yost didn't lose this game.. like I told Lew in the game thread the Royals had to pitch a shut out to win tonight and hope it went 11. You weren't touch Madison Bumgarner tonight, the Royals players knew it.

You're right - we really had very little chance against Bumgarner.

Doesn't make the double switch any less idiotic though.

Ned has to put our players in the best position to try and get the win. He didn't do that tonight.

Why? They were totally demolished 16-4

This is 110% on the players

The decision to concede a run in the first was just as goddamn stupid IMO.....

Good thing is Bumgarner will probably pitch Game 7 on short rest

Pitching to Crawford was stupid. He beat us twice with Bumgardner in the on deck circle. Ned is a scared bitch when it's time to make a call.

Agreed, stupifying decision...and then Bum grounds to 3rd, would've been a DP.

Maybe because history is on the side of most of us....we've seen the Royals, Chief's, MU Tigers and yes even the Jayhawks snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Who cares? We had 4 hits and 1 guy reached 2B.

What does that have to do with anything? None of that history means anything for this series. KC may ultimately lose, but one has to like Ventura v. Peavy.

Why? They'll just pull Peavy early and put in Petit like last night - and all their other pen guys who never give up hits

Because that gave them a 2-0 lead and changed the complication of the game? Not sure we would have won, but I think if he made the right call there is likely 0-0 heading into the 9th. Again I'm assuming he goes to Davis to start the 8th.

But yeah, you've got to hit better than that.

Before tonight, Wade Davis never gave up runs either. Stop being a Nancy boy.

I like the Ventura vs Peavy matchup in KC. I think we win game 6 and tie it up.

The crazy game is going to be game 7. If we don't get some runs scored early, that game could be trouble because you know Bochy will be pulling out all the stops to win that one. We're likely to see Petit AND Bumgarner again in that game if Hudson (Im assuming Hudson is getting game 7...) surrenders runs early.

Shields was a helluva lot better tonight, but Bumgarner is in a whole other universe right now.

After what happened to Wade Davis tonight, it should put to rest some of the rumblings about the 6th inning of game four with 2 on and no outs. The way those guys were swinging in that game, they would've been able to get to Wade.

This is just what Championship teams do. Its time to find out if the KC Royals are made of the same stuff. Its right there in front of them, all they have to do is take it. They've beaten the Giants back to back once already this series, against the upcoming 2 starters. Just have to do it again except this time we'll be at home for both games.

Here's History for you. In 1985 the Royals were down 3-2 going back home and they didn't quit. The same ****ing situation the 2014 Royals are in

Are you ****ing shitting me?

Is George Brett going to suit up? Bret Saberhagen?
Maybe someone who might hit a HR? Stave Balboni? Heck, Frank White was a better HR hitter than anyone on this team.

Ill help further. In 2002 the giants took a 3-2 lead against the angels, and lost in Anaheim to the Damn rally monkeys.

I posted it in the other thread... but in recent history, when the series is 2-2, the game 5 winner actually has lost the series more times than they've won. It's close to 50/50 though.

Yeah. I saw that. If the giants Don't win it on Tuesday, they will not win the world series.

I wouldn't go that far. I think if it goes to 7 it's pretty much a toss up. This Giants team is too scrappy to fall victim to a statistic. But anything crazy can happen in a single game 7.

I'm a sucker for history, and superstitious when it comes to baseball.

And? Like I said, I really like Ventura v. Peavy, regardless of what you think.

I will kiss you if correct.

I knew it wasn't over. Tomorrow could he an epic games. Both teams are pretty much mirror images. I hope the Royals can stuck around like the Giants.

Regardless I'm proud of this team win or lose.

Awww.

buh dum tish

I'm going on record. If the Royals win it all tomorrow I'm buying a Yost jersey in the offseason. No sports figure has ever received more criticism from me, and I will more than happily eat my words with that purchase.

First I ever heard of such a suggestion - and I love it

I Applaud you.

Whoa

Yost hasn't just managed us to Game 7 of the WS, he's been funny as hell in the media and just by reading writeups of him nationally you can sense the national media if not other fanbases are really fascinated by his sense of humor.

Dick Howser had the personality of a stone crab.

For the record I still think he's a pretty lackluster in game manager and comes across as a huge D-bag in the reg season post game press conferences in KC, but you know he has to be loving sticking The Brewers nose in this shit.

If I wasn't a Royals fan, I'd probably love the guy. I like the guy as a person, or at least the guy I believe him to be as I've never met him and obviously don't know him, but some of his decisions are just so horribly hard to defend they drive me ****ing nuts.... which leads me to want to club him like a baby seal every time he Yosts the team.

I'm hypocritical as hell about using the term "Yosted" when he screws up and/or when he comes out looking like a genius and I'd definetly buy a Yost or, better yet, a Yosted jersey if he wins game 7. I'm surprised there aren't a bunch of "Yosting" memes floating around with some of his weird dugout and interview captures.

I'll say this: Maddon would do great things with the talent on this roster if Yost was to hang up the cleats after this season.

The thing that soured most on Yost besides his on field managing was his attitude towards the media, mainly with Bukaty. There were legitimate questions asked and Ned treated the media like they were dumb asses for asking those questions and how dare they question a decision he made. Had he either accepted fault or gave a logical thought our reason for the moves rather than go full bleeding vagina I think he would be viewed differently now.

I'm sure Ned feels redeemed from what happed with the Brewers regardless of what happens tonight so yeah him accepting a front office job and Maddon stepping in would kick ass, but I give it about a .001 chance of happening.

I doubt Madden would want to go to a franchise that has a budget less than $150,000,000.

I doubt he wants to go to a franchise that just had it's best season in 30 years also. No where to go but backwards.

I'd imagine all managers are prickly towards the media. Are some not?

I'd hate someone always second guessing everything I did at work

I don't know. I don't listen to many if any baseaball managers conferences outside KC, but I imagine it's similar to football. For every Reid/Herm that are media friendly there is a Todd Haley.

I don't think there is any coach or manager out there who is friendly to media when he's losing

Well, you lose a lot of baseball games. I can't imagine each loss causing a total douche bag transformation. Just answer the damn questions without coming across as superior to everyone in the room and pretending like every legit questions is reeruned... Mr. Ned "I've never been wrong on a prospect" Yost.

I think for the most part he was just very insecure. Perhaps this run will alter that a bit.

Well, it could be worse....

The Royals could had Dusty Baker, and Ventura and Duffy's careers would be over well before it even started....

Maddon wants 5/25 to manage

LULZ

That's less than Scioscia I believe. Not too far fetched.

Time to give gim his props. He will soon be the best Royals manager of all time.

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What team's database did you hack?

He might have the most victories, but he can't be the best manager until he brings home the ring.

(Not bashing Yost, but Dick Howser would easily be the greatest manager in club history if he had not fallen ill and died, and Dick did what no other manager in Royals history could do--even Whitey--he won a world series.)

Absolutely this.

It's a ring or nothing.

While my dislike for the man has reduced since last year I'm still not thrilled with him by any means, but I also won't argue with the success of the team right now.

:LOL:

Deberg posts are even worse than Deberg threads.

Here we are again.

Literally all the dumb luck love built up from last August until now, just went the way of a Ryan Madson fastball

One of the dumbest ****ing decisions I have ever seen him make...take a guy the Jays have owned and pitching him against their power with the Series on the line..

Never mind you have the best reliever in baseball in your Pen

Welp, if he doesn't explain his decision, it's open season on the guy's emotions!