Probably some truth to that. But that's usually how coaches make a name for themselves and move up to better jobs. That KU win certainly springboarded his career. And I still can't believe KU lost that game. Epic choke job by Self. Same w/ UNI. God damn those were some good teams absolutely wasted.

The tournament is like a job fair for a lot of newbies or small school guys. Do well or knock off a powerhouse or 2 or make a Cinderella run and other bigger schools start calling.

But it's a sink or swim world. At these bigger schools it's either win or get replaced....unless you're Scott Drew. Which to be fair he wins and gets into the tourney...but my god he's wasted some Final Four talent that's passed through there ROFL

Slaps Virginia still gets away with waaaay to many fouls.

Tonight won’t be easy. Easily could drop this game. We suck penis playing in the spirit center.

We've been close to losing the vast majority of games we've played this season, so no reason to think this will be any different (although the offense will probably be better without Udoka clogging it up).

Yep, another close one. KU currently leading 21-20. Not a good shooting night so far. Sprint Center games suck.

Classic Sprint Center ass game.

Garrett needs to stop shooting.

He made one and now thinks he's Curry.

Charlie Moore has walk on talent.

KU down 2 at half to these clowns. Lol!

Vick has 0 points in the last 3 halves of basketball. Your reminder that he's still bad.

A Garrett open three seems like it might actually be the best offense this team is capable of getting in the half-court.

Your going full Como, never go Full Como....

Vick was fine until Self decided to punish him.

Vick has never been fine. He's a bad basketball player with no good attribute other than good spot shooting (which mysteriously evaporates against decent competition). He cannot create his own shot, cannot dribble, cannot pass, and cannot play defense.

He will be fine...

OK, I'm now fully in favor of adopting a fullcourt press and trying to get turnovers.

Should have the horses to do it and we are so damn inefficient we need the posessions.

Some dude complained about my full KU beak hat imposing his view. Its been all downhill since then

Far better strategy than what we're doing right now.

Bill self and 3 pt defense. Problem for since like? Ever?

We look horrible, same as always I guess. Will we come back and win? Vick isn't doing a thing this game.

NMSU is 5/17 from three tonight. Defense is not the problem.

VICK!!!!!!

We suck equally offensively and defensively

It’s the sprint center. We’re usually junk ass there. I usually mark these games up as an L and move on.

We all know making 3 pointers is fools gold

LMAO

Here comes Vick.

Except they've played exactly like this for the entire season.

This team has to hit 3's we seem to suck at everything else. We're going exactly no where this year in the tourney.

Might miss the dance if they play like this.

Eh it’s early December. We will see. Self has a way.....

No clue why they don’t double Lawson. Or go zone. Christ. How would this team beat a zone?

By putting the ball in the basket more than the other team?

People are not going to want to hear this - but I have no clue how we are Kenpom #2. If I didnt know any better Id rank us like a Top 15 or 20 team. Tonnns of weaknesses

Yes I get we have 2 Top 10 wins but we sure as shit have been fortunate

I don't like our chances then.

Vintage Vick decision making.

Lawson balling right now. One man team.

Remember Vick against the zone last year? LMAO

They are KenPom #2 right now because the pre-season ratings are still like half of it. As the season goes on, they'll drop and drop hard.

Lightfoot is terrible.

He is what he is.

He’s better than the bugs that aren’t playing

Well at least they make it interesting.

buttcheeks tight now

He's played fine this half, especially defensively. He was thrown the ball in an awful spot there on offense, that wasn't his fault.

High pucker factor.

New Mexico State is really bad.

Gotta be stronf at the line.

Survived.

That was some ugly big 10 ball right there.

Another Self style victory, we hate these but you know Self loves them. This is his identity.

Awful game, not unlike the Stanford one. Not the first time Lawson's offense has bailed this team out this year.

Their inability to score efficiently will come back to bite them soon enough.

Well you can’t win them all. That felt like a March type game. I texted the wife - survived for another day. She wrote back. This isn’t March you tardcart

If we’re the 2 ranked team, CBB has never been worse

LMAO

Honestly - even though its you - I agree. We have been very fortunate

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Villanova ahead 39-37 second half

Mahomes at the game

Should be watching film with Sutton showing him how Henne would shred his defense rather than watching KU get beat on their home court! :)

The last minute has lasted 15 minutes.

Ku putting on a clinic on how not to finish a game

Yep, closer than it needed to be.

Bilas is a douche

Definitely let Nova stay in that one with all of those offensive rebounds for 3’s and the ugly ending, but another good win nonetheless.

Schedule should ease up a bit until conference play. Hope our young guys can get some confidence and produce more consistently. Vick and Dedric have carried us so far without Doke.

Why do you say that? He's one of the best, IMO. Way better than Vitale or that idiot from the Big 10.

Agreed. I like him. I feel like he isn’t too biased even when calling Duke games.

It’s hard to find guys with real backgrounds in any sport without any bias.

Fouts is awful during Charger games. Arians was really bad during the Cardinals game. Etc.

That is as bad as Villanova might be in the next five years. Good to get them now - still a disappointing performance. Nova just lost at home to Penn and also lost to Furman. FURR MAN.

Might be about the 4th game we win because of Vick. Imagine if we didn't have him this year? Could have four losses.

I'm amazed at how bad Charlie Moore is. He's just horrible. I'll give it to him - he tries defensively but he just is not good at it. He has never been able to figure out his role in the offense after being a 30+ minute a game shot chucker his freshman year at Cal.

Ladies and Gentleman Quinten Grimes will be in Crimson and Blue in 2019-2020. He's going full Wayne Selden. Hopefully Dotson keeps his assist numbers down so we are lucky enough to have him back. Once he figures out how to be a better distributor like Frank did, he's going to be a Frank Mason type yet 2 inches taller.

I am firmly in the camp of pressing often. This team just can’t be efficient offensively outside of the possessions that go to Lawson. And if Vick happens to be on fire.

Grimes has become a defensive specialist for this KU team, it's bizarre.

Now they are actually quite a good defensive team which is the first time that could be said in a few years. Offense is still more or less of a mess, though. It basically just consists of Dedric Lawson in the high post/on the elbow (which is really effective especially when he gets around the basket), Vick's ridiculous contested joke shots (obviously not sustainable at this 55% clip), and Dotson's occasional drives.

Him pulling the ball out of an open layup up 5 points with a minute left was the kind of play I'd expect out of Vick. The basketball IQ just isn't there. Really it isn't there for most of this team (why is Vick not calling timeout and/or throwing the ball out of bounds in that spot, why is Dedric fouling in that spot at the end of the game...?) which makes it all the more incredible this team is #1 at the moment.

If Vick wins NCAA tournament MOP and leads Kansas to a title, can you please post “I love Lagerald Vick, I always have, and I always will”?

Garett and lightfoot each had a few big time defensive plays. Garett is reminding me more and more of a less offensively skilled Releford. He might be more explosive driving to the rim though.

Marcus Garrett = Andre Roberson

This team is the epitome of playing down to their competition.

Tennessee or Vermont, it doesn’t matter. There is no killer instinct.

He won't, so there's no worries there. But even if he did, that still wouldn't make anything I've ever said about him false.

Wow. I get a very different vibe than a lot of you guys. This is a team down a starter, with its prize freshman not performing on the offensive end, yet absolutely sells out for the victory. Yeah, they aren't Championship level poised quite yet, but they don't give up even though they really only have two places to go for offense right now.

I could be wrong, but I don't think a single team they've played this year has a losing record. The winter break is traditionally when Self really gets into his team and starts tightening the screws a bit. I think these gritty games are going to serve them well in the season to come.

Releford was a great shooter by the end of his college career (which is very difficult to see for Garrett), but Garrett may actually be the better defender of the two.

It's interesting that Lightfoot has played in crunch time in the last few games. It's probably a lot because he's just defensively sound and tries hard, I'll take that in those spots.

Well, they are ranked #1 in the country and undefeated. KU currently has the nation's highest Strength of Schedule. Just beat the national champion from last year. That's plenty of killer instinct. I'll take that over beating Vermont by 40. Rock Chalk!